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It'll be nice seeing Lavine win the slam dunk contest several times over the next few years

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shahidi124 wrote:It'll be nice seeing Lavine win the slam dunk contest several times over the next few years

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Those are pretty great dunks, but ultimately I'd rather it be accurate shooting and great defense that he ends up being known for. That will certainly be more important to team success.
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60WinTim wrote:I'm torn on the Love thing. Love was the guy I wanted at the time of the draft, and was thrilled when we got him AND Miller for OJ Mayo. Love has met and exceeded my expectations. To lose him now as he enters his prime sucks. But I don't blame him for wanting out considering just how bad Kahn and Taylor have been.

But our team with Love has it's drawbacks. Neither he nor Pek are rim-protectors. And with both Pek and Love taking so many shots, our scoring at the other positions naturally suffers with the reduced number of shots to go around. In a guard-oriented league, it would behoove us to increase our scoring from the PG and wing positions.

Flip's zone-oriented defense would likely have made us a much better defensive team than Adelman's man-only defense. But we'll never get a chance to see it if we trade Love now. So I am cool if Flip hangs on to Love, but am certainly intrigued with the idea of swapping Love for Wiggins (and parts). I'll be happy with which ever path Flip decides, although I suspect Cool is correct that a Love-Wiggins deal is already in place. Love and Barea for Wiggins, Waiters and Thompson (plus whatever else is needed to make it work) is something I would like to see.


Hey Tim, good to hear from you!
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We had a floor/ceiling thread for wiggins(who is not even a wolf yet). How about lavine?

Personally I see a better attitude jr smith as his floor. Both crazy athletic and have good handles and can shoot.

His ceiling could be an athletic manu ginobili. Can handle the ball, run the offense, pass, shoot and slash all at the 2 guard position.
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worldK wrote:We had a floor/ceiling thread for wiggins(who is not even a wolf yet). How about lavine?

Personally I see a better attitude jr smith as his floor. Both crazy athletic and have good handles and can shoot.

His ceiling could be an athletic manu ginobili. Can handle the ball, run the offense, pass, shoot and slash all at the 2 guard position.


Manu is one of the greatest 2-guards of the past generation. Seriously, after Jordan and Kobe, Manu is right there along with one or two others. I think it's wildly optimistic to think LaVine has that kind of ceiling.
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Yeah, Q, it's good to be back. I missed staying up-to-date on the various NBA and Wolves news, but it also helps make the off-season go faster when I'm out of town for awhile.

But I am still feeling giddy with how solid Zach looks. Hopefully Love's departure will not set us back too far...
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60WinTim wrote:Yeah, Q, it's good to be back. I missed staying up-to-date on the various NBA and Wolves news, but it also helps make the off-season go faster when I'm out of town for awhile.

But I am still feeling giddy with how solid Zach looks. Hopefully Love's departure will not set us back too far...


You missed the apex of a Wolves fan existence - Summer League! Due to our perennial losing ways, we always have high draft picks to watch! Hope spring eternal!
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Q12543 wrote:
worldK wrote:We had a floor/ceiling thread for wiggins(who is not even a wolf yet). How about lavine?

Personally I see a better attitude jr smith as his floor. Both crazy athletic and have good handles and can shoot.

His ceiling could be an athletic manu ginobili. Can handle the ball, run the offense, pass, shoot and slash all at the 2 guard position.


Manu is one of the greatest 2-guards of the past generation. Seriously, after Jordan and Kobe, Manu is right there along with one or two others. I think it's wildly optimistic to think LaVine has that kind of ceiling.


Hey q were talking about ceiling here right? hah, ive seen westbrook pegged as a comparison countless times on these boards.

Also, you seems to be downplaying the careers of allen, miller, drexler, wade, tmac, iverson and vince carter. Manu was perfect in his role for the spurs. If lavine could play the same role effectively for us I will be thrilled.
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It's so hard to predict the floor and ceiling of these guys (Wiggins and LaVine) because they are still so young. Even their bodies aren't done growing and filling out yet. I don't see either as superstars or complete busts. I like the Barnes/Jefferson/Ariza/Batum/George floor to ceiling continuum for Wiggins. On LaVine, I think an Austin Rivers/Jamal Crawford type of range makes sense.
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worldK wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
worldK wrote:We had a floor/ceiling thread for wiggins(who is not even a wolf yet). How about lavine?

Personally I see a better attitude jr smith as his floor. Both crazy athletic and have good handles and can shoot.

His ceiling could be an athletic manu ginobili. Can handle the ball, run the offense, pass, shoot and slash all at the 2 guard position.


Manu is one of the greatest 2-guards of the past generation. Seriously, after Jordan and Kobe, Manu is right there along with one or two others. I think it's wildly optimistic to think LaVine has that kind of ceiling.


Hey q were talking about ceiling here right? hah, ive seen westbrook pegged as a comparison countless times on these boards.

Also, you seems to be downplaying the careers of allen, miller, drexler, tmac, iverson and vince carter. Manu was perfect in his role for the spurs. If lavine could play the same role effectively for us I will be thrilled.



If you are talking about what's mathematically possible as a ceiling, than I suppose Manu is a ceiling. But so is Michael Jordan. If you are talking about a realistic ceiling, I don't see it.
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