Volans19 wrote:We couldn't sign him outright anyways so it has to be a sign and trade.
I'm thinking something like
PHX - Pek, Budinger, Barea, Remove the protection from the 1st rounder we owe them
MIN - Bledsoe and either Len or Plumlee
I don't feel comfortable only having Dieng and Turiaf as our legit big guys so we would need one of their centers back but I'm not sure the Suns would be willing to part with either one of them.
I doubt this happens but would be totally stoked if it did. We could use Martin as our sixth man and have a great backcourt for the first time in years.
Maybe this is why Flip has Fesenko signed for training camp. We could do worse than Fesenko as an end of the bench third center. I think Pek/JJ/Bud for Bledsoe might work from a numbers standpoint without the Suns including another player.
khans2k5 wrote:Based on what they have shown to date, I would rather have Bledsoe than Ricky. He is less of a playmaker, but he is a legit go-to option as he can get to the bucket and finish with that athleticism. They are both very good defenders. Even if Ricky isn't included in the trade, it gives us negotiating leverage and a backup plan for Ricky if someone does throw a big number at him. Bledsoe did play off Wall at Kentucky so he has played off the ball and would give us another ball handler. I just don't see the long-term fit next to Rubio with Bledsoe missing the height and Rubio missing the athleticism to guard 2's full-time. A Bledsoe/Lavine/Wiggins/Thad/Dieng lineup would be crazy athletic. Relying on a borderline 40% FG shooter as your primary ball handler just makes life tough because he's just not much of a threat to do anything but pass.
Khans, when Bledsoe played for the Clippers, Clips fans cringed whenever he ran the point. And his ball handling numbers weren't very good last year (5.5 assists and 3.3 turnovers). I'm more comfortable with Rubio at PG, even if it means he has to guard SG's. I see him at least as good as Dragic in terms of ability to guard SF's.
Volans19 wrote:We couldn't sign him outright anyways so it has to be a sign and trade.
I'm thinking something like
PHX - Pek, Budinger, Barea, Remove the protection from the 1st rounder we owe them
MIN - Bledsoe and either Len or Plumlee
I don't feel comfortable only having Dieng and Turiaf as our legit big guys so we would need one of their centers back but I'm not sure the Suns would be willing to part with either one of them.
I doubt this happens but would be totally stoked if it did. We could use Martin as our sixth man and have a great backcourt for the first time in years.
Maybe this is why Flip has Fesenko signed for training camp. We could do worse than Fesenko as an end of the bench third center. I think Pek/JJ/Bud for Bledsoe might work from a numbers standpoint without the Suns including another player.
Yes you could absolutely do no worse then Fesenko.
Though of a potential interesting idea. Suns wanted Eric Gordon. We apparently don't have enough for the Suns to deal right now. 3 team sending Gordon to the Suns Bledsoe to the Wolves and Martin/Bud/JJ to the Pelicans. Other pieces would probably need to be involved but that's a decent framework.
Volans19 wrote:We couldn't sign him outright anyways so it has to be a sign and trade.
I'm thinking something like
PHX - Pek, Budinger, Barea, Remove the protection from the 1st rounder we owe them
MIN - Bledsoe and either Len or Plumlee
I don't feel comfortable only having Dieng and Turiaf as our legit big guys so we would need one of their centers back but I'm not sure the Suns would be willing to part with either one of them.
I doubt this happens but would be totally stoked if it did. We could use Martin as our sixth man and have a great backcourt for the first time in years.
Maybe this is why Flip has Fesenko signed for training camp. We could do worse than Fesenko as an end of the bench third center. I think Pek/JJ/Bud for Bledsoe might work from a numbers standpoint without the Suns including another player.
Yes you could absolutely do no worse then Fesenko.
I don't know...I can't name five 3rd team centers much better than Fesenko. You don't want to see your 3rd string center on the court much anyway.
I'm looking at the Jonny K tweets you referenced, alex, and agree that he is usually pretty reliable. I kind of hope he is right. I'm still a Rubio fan, and I'm worried about what kind of message we're giving to Ricky if we offer Bledsoe the deal he wants. Maybe the best outcome here is for this to fall apart, and for Flip to make a strong statement that he never offered a max deal.
khans2k5 wrote:Though of a potential interesting idea. Suns wanted Eric Gordon. We apparently don't have enough for the Suns to deal right now. 3 team sending Gordon to the Suns Bledsoe to the Wolves and Martin/Bud/JJ to the Pelicans. Other pieces would probably need to be involved but that's a decent framework.
But why do the Pelicans want Martin, JJ and Bud for Gordon? Phoenix would love this, but I don't think the Pellies love it.
Volans19 wrote:We couldn't sign him outright anyways so it has to be a sign and trade.
I'm thinking something like
PHX - Pek, Budinger, Barea, Remove the protection from the 1st rounder we owe them
MIN - Bledsoe and either Len or Plumlee
I don't feel comfortable only having Dieng and Turiaf as our legit big guys so we would need one of their centers back but I'm not sure the Suns would be willing to part with either one of them.
I doubt this happens but would be totally stoked if it did. We could use Martin as our sixth man and have a great backcourt for the first time in years.
Maybe this is why Flip has Fesenko signed for training camp. We could do worse than Fesenko as an end of the bench third center. I think Pek/JJ/Bud for Bledsoe might work from a numbers standpoint without the Suns including another player.
Yes you could absolutely do no worse then Fesenko.
I don't know...I can't name five 3rd team centers much better than Fesenko. You don't want to see your 3rd string center on the court much anyway.
I'm looking at the Jonny K tweets you referenced, alex, and agree that he is usually pretty reliable. I kind of hope he is right. I'm still a Rubio fan, and I'm worried about what kind of message we're giving to Ricky if we offer Bledsoe the deal he wants. Maybe the best outcome here is for this to fall apart, and for Flip to make a strong statement that he never offered a max deal.
I don't think Ricky would care as long as he gets paid.
I don't see why the Suns would want Rubio if they didn't want to give Bledsoe the max.
I mean maybe you let Rubio hit RFA and match any offer that's less then the max?
Glen won't pay the tax for this current collection.
I'd be worried about having the C being just Dieng and Turiaf. Maybe you go super small at times like;
khans2k5 wrote:Though of a potential interesting idea. Suns wanted Eric Gordon. We apparently don't have enough for the Suns to deal right now. 3 team sending Gordon to the Suns Bledsoe to the Wolves and Martin/Bud/JJ to the Pelicans. Other pieces would probably need to be involved but that's a decent framework.
But why do the Pelicans want Martin, JJ and Bud for Gordon? Phoenix would love this, but I don't think the Pellies love it.
Yea wouldn't make sense from me either. JJ and Bud are negative worth. Martin is good but why do a deal just to do a deal?
