Ideal Kevin Love Trades

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Camden [enjin:6601484]
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Seems a little head-scratching that you'd ask for Bennett instead of Thompson, a proven double-double guy that plays good defense. Bennett is essentially another D-Will. Tweener that has a dumb contract because of his draft status. No thanks. Give me Thompson all day, and even if we decide he's not our PF of the future, his deal's up much sooner than Bennett's.
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Camden wrote:Seems a little head-scratching that you'd ask for Bennett instead of Thompson, a proven double-double guy that plays good defense. Bennett is essentially another D-Will. Tweener that has a dumb contract because of his draft status. No thanks. Give me Thompson all day, and even if we decide he's not our PF of the future, his deal's up much sooner than Bennett's.


Aren't the deals up at the same time if Bennett's options aren't picked up?
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sjm34 wrote:
Camden wrote:Seems a little head-scratching that you'd ask for Bennett instead of Thompson, a proven double-double guy that plays good defense. Bennett is essentially another D-Will. Tweener that has a dumb contract because of his draft status. No thanks. Give me Thompson all day, and even if we decide he's not our PF of the future, his deal's up much sooner than Bennett's.


Aren't the deals up at the same time if Bennett's options aren't picked up?


Fair point. So then the question is: who's going to be the better player? I vote Thompson's steady contributions are better than Bennett's potential.
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Just throwing a name out there...What do you guys think of greg monroe?

Before the lottery results, i was hoping that detroit actually wins a top 3 pick in that in the event love absolutely needs to be traded. Love will fit right in with drummond and smith in the frontcourt. Will respect stan van gandy and has played with jennings before(high school). Mornoe + wiggins/parker would have been the best possible outcome of trading love and since detroit has cap space and stan loves shooters we can send martin or bud to them as well to shed salary.

Now a swap of love + salary dump for monroe seems less appealing with the pistons losing its pick.

With the exception of trading love for a wiggins/parker/embiid. Monroe + future picks and salary dump might be the best we can get. I would hate to trade love to a western conference team like golden state.
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Monroe's also due a new contract. Don't see him signing with us after being in Detroit for years.

I want the Cleveland package (Wiggins/Waiters/Thompson/Gee) and Joerger as coach. I'm good with that as a Love trade. To be honest, I'm a little over all the Love spotlight from the media and Kevin not saying they're false, which is as good as confirming it to me. Wiggins gives us a new "star" prospect to watch grow on both ends of the floor. Waiters has All-Star potential to me (19 PPG post AS break in 2013) and Thompson's a consistent double-double guy with good defense.
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Mstermisty wrote:I still think Golden State is the ideal trade partner. And I think they are just posturing by saying Klay is off the table. And if I'm the Wolves I'm not even picking up the phone until he's on the table.

Even if Kevin Love wants out, there should still be a bidding war for his services. I mean how often does a player of his caliber, in his prime, become available? Not often. The Wolves need to hold out for a great deal. I would offer Golden State this:

Love, K-Mart, and JJ for Lee, Klay, Barnes and Steve Blake.

Golden State gets their man in Love, and a decent replacement in K-Mart for Klay. Wolves get Klay, Lee (a poor man's Love--and 6 years older), Barnes (a player who could still break out) and Blake, a much better fit playing behind Rubio.


I'm not trying to be rude or offensive, but I hate that trade and really any trade remotely like it. If we're not getting back a very high draft pick (with a decent chance of generating a future all-star) and at least one very good young player, I'd rather let Love simply walk. If you're not getting legitimate building blocks to contend 2-3 years down the road, you're far better off completely bottoming out. Lose Love for absolutely nothing, become a 15-18 win team for 2-3 years, pick top 3 in all those drafts, and hope you nail at least two of them. That's how you build a contender when you're not living in a "destination" market.

If we pull the trigger on something like the above GS deal, where are we? Klay on what amounts to a rental (because he'll bolt the moment he's able). Lee giving us just enough production to tumble out of the sweet spots in the draft lottery. Barnes - because we don't have enough busts already. Maybe we shed an unfavorable contract or two, which should help us clear enough cap space to once again sign absolutely no marquee free agents - or, worse yet, sign a few mediocre ones to horribly inflated deals.

I'm telling you guys, outside of a godfather offer, you do not trade Love for a bunch of spare parts. You get high draft picks directly - or you get them indirectly by truly bottoming out. You don't bottom out by replacing 90% of Love's production with 3 average to above average players who will bail on you the moment their contracts end.
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ugh Love won't agree to resign with the Cavs, its a moot point
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Its really too bad that Boston didnt get into the top 3. Ainge is willing to move his pick for a noncommittal Love and I doubt that would change regardless of where the pick landed. Still, I'm leaning towards a Boston package at this point. They have 6, 17 and a number of future picks plus Flip was rumored to really like Olynyk. Trading Love to the East really makes sense here as well if the Wolves want to improve their chances of reaching the playoffs in our lifetime.
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So, is keeping Love even an option?
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60WinTim wrote:So, is keeping Love even an option?


Absolutely. I don't think Glen Taylor wants to trade him.
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