Would you do this trade?

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Would you do this trade?

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Min receives: javal mcgee, Wilson Chandler and darell Arthur

Den receives: pek, brewer and a first
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Re: Would you do this trade?

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No way. Pek and the first are our only good trade assets. Wont waste it on jvale and his blooper reels. I like chandler and Arthur is a nice backup but if im trading pek and the first, i want someone who can be the a legit 2nd option on the team.
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No. This trade is terrible for us. One of the worst Pek trades I've seen, to be honest.
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All Javale McGee needs is a 5th chance?
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Are you sure you are a Wolves fan?
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Sometimes I don't understand this board. A lot of people want to trade pek for a two way player and rim protector, we want to get more athletic. I mean what do you honestly think we can get for Pek, he is a offensive center, with no threat a rim protection, average to below average defense on pick and roles and his is average to a little slightly above average on man to man D. He is also has a long history of injuries, doesn't play through pain a lot (I have no right to judge), and has a big contract. Also I think this board values late lottery picks way to high in value, we traded a pick to the rockets around the same pick we will be picking this year for Bud. We got Rubio for two role players in Miller and Foye. Our first round pick is not going in trade bring in a difference making player. Also name a player in the last ten years besides pek that we have drafted that has been any good at all (Ty Lawson was drafted for Denver). Do I think Mcgee is better than Pek, no, but do I think he could be a better fit in how our roster is currently constructed, yes. In this trade I have proposed take out Brewer and add in LRAM. Wilson chandler IMO is really underated, he is a good pretty young two way players, something the wolves currently don't have. Darrell Aurther is better than Cunningham, so our bench instantly gets better. Do I think this is the best trade ever, No, but I think it would be a good trade for the wolves and it helps our focus for our MLE in the offseason, we would then have offense of the bench in Chandler, a better backup PF in Aurther and a rim protector in Mcgee, so we would need a backup PG a and a three point shooter (Steve Blake)

One last thing Jason never question my fandom, I care way to much, you have a different opinion than me, don't attack my fandom, if I wasn't a fan I wouldn't be watching almost every wolves game for the last four years in my dorm room on a small computer with poor quality if I did not care.
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Kek, I think you are on the right track, but there are several issues with the deal. First McGee is drastically overpaid for what he gives, and has a worse track record than Pek when it comes to injuries. Second we are taking back significant salary which would make our MLE close to worthless without other moves. I really like Chandler, but I am not sure that Arthur is an upgrade over DC and costs more money. It is hard to give up a pick that can likely land us a decent SG on a rookie deal though.

I would like to move Pek, but my motives are to shed the salary for a significant improvement at the wing. I am not sure that Chandler gives us what we need any more than the first round pick could likely bring at a much lower cost. I would love to explore moving Pek for Chandler and Mozgov and possibly their first. Maybe we could swap picks. Or maybe we could swap Bud and Wilson. I just don't think we can build a contender by signing FA's. We have to use the draft and get cheaper alternatives. I do admit that having Flip doing the drafting scares the hell out of me.
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kekgeek1 wrote:Sometimes I don't understand this board. A lot of people want to trade pek for a two way player and rim protector, we want to get more athletic. I mean what do you honestly think we can get for Pek, he is a offensive center, with no threat a rim protection, average to below average defense on pick and roles and his is average to a little slightly above average on man to man D. He is also has a long history of injuries, doesn't play through pain a lot (I have no right to judge), and has a big contract. Also I think this board values late lottery picks way to high in value, we traded a pick to the rockets around the same pick we will be picking this year for Bud. We got Rubio for two role players in Miller and Foye. Our first round pick is not going in trade bring in a difference making player. Also name a player in the last ten years besides pek that we have drafted that has been any good at all (Ty Lawson was drafted for Denver). Do I think Mcgee is better than Pek, no, but do I think he could be a better fit in how our roster is currently constructed, yes. In this trade I have proposed take out Brewer and add in LRAM. Wilson chandler IMO is really underated, he is a good pretty young two way players, something the wolves currently don't have. Darrell Aurther is better than Cunningham, so our bench instantly gets better. Do I think this is the best trade ever, No, but I think it would be a good trade for the wolves and it helps our focus for our MLE in the offseason, we would then have offense of the bench in Chandler, a better backup PF in Aurther and a rim protector in Mcgee, so we would need a backup PG a and a three point shooter (Steve Blake)

One last thing Jason never question my fandom, I care way to much, you have a different opinion than me, don't attack my fandom, if I wasn't a fan I wouldn't be watching almost every wolves game for the last four years in my dorm room on a small computer with poor quality if I did not care.



Then stop suggesting 6-player trades in which the Wolves are giving up the three best players.
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Re: Would you do this trade?

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Not a bad idea, McGee would be a decent fit here. The only problem I have with it is I think Pek is the best player in the deal so I don't think trading him and a first makes sense. I think Dieng could be the defensive center we need so I'd be more inclined to trade Pek for a wing who can create his own shot though.
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Bringing in a guy who is as undisciplined as McGee to be your defensive anchor is a bad idea.

Bringing in a guy who has never averaged more than 27 mpg for various reasons, even while playing for a really crappy team, is a bad idea.

Bringing in a guy who has shown little to no improvement despite SEVERAL claims that "he's finally ready to make the leap" is a bad idea.

McGee is not a guy who's going to just figure it out at this point. He is what he is... an overpaid energy guy off the bench.

I am all for moving Pekovic. And I understand that the market for him won't be huge, given his contract and "injury/ailment/booboo" history. I just don't think McGee is the answer. Just imagine if he is the same mercurial, inconsistent player he's been over the first 6 seasons in the league (which is highly likely)... it's going to get ugly.

And McGee hasn't shown any ability to overcome adversity up to this point in his career. He's basically a bigger, richer, more defensive minded version of Anthony Randolph in some ways. We KNOW Randolph will never pan out. I guess we don't know for sure if McGee ever will...
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