Do we need Pek & Martin??

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Way to put the blame on everyone except the 5 guys who are actually on the court at the end of the game. 5 points is not enough to bitch at the second unit for not being able to overcome. If the starters are as great as everyone is saying, then they should be able to win more clutch games. How can you build a double digit lead on the opposing starting unit, yet you can't finish a game that is within 5 points? It's called choking. They don't get stops and they get stopped. The bench can't do anything because they are on the bench at the end of the game. You can't praise a group for being so good for 3 quarters and then blame everyone else when they're the ones that don't finish the 4th quarter. Love is only averaging 36 minutes a game and he is our most played player. That's not enough MPG's to warrant not being able to close out a game for anyone on the starting unit. The fact is that they can't close out games and that has nothing to do with the bench. If a game is within 5 points, then it is up to our "Top 5" starting lineup to win the game and they haven't this year.

[Crazysauce]

No we absolutely dont need Martin. He is worthless. As for Pek, we need him IF we dont have Love. So if your dealing Love you keep Pek. If your plan is to keep Love than you deal Pek. On the current team though I think Turiaf is just as good as Pek. In fact I would take Turiaf over him. You need a guy to contest the guys getting to the rim. Pek is even worse than Love at that, and that says something cause Love is terrible.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Turiaf is better than Pekovic now? You have lost your fucking mind.

[Crazysauce]

I didnt say that. He is however more valuable than Pek.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I didnt say that. He is however more valuable than Pek.

So we could get more for Turiaf than Pekovic in a trade then? Since he's more valuable that is.. Turiaf's certainly not more valuable to the Wolves or any other team in this league. To say so is ridiculous.

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

I didnt say that. He is however more valuable than Pek.

its just too stupid a statement to respond to

[Crazysauce]

did I say that either? no. He is more valuable to the wolves than pek is with the way this team is constructed. He fits much better with martin and love and rubio gambling a lot. How is that so hard to comprehend? Did you not watch the games that Pek was out and Turiaf was in?

[Crazysauce]

in addition he makes much less than pek makes.

[mjs34]

"All you can ask of a bench is keep the game close for the starters to finish it out and our starters are horrible at finishing games."

Lol I disagree. I think the job of a bench is to keep the lead the starters got the same or relatively close to what it was when they left the floor. If the starters didn't create a lead, then it's their job to keep it close enough for them to get a lead. What our bench does is come in with a decent lead (talking 10-12 points or so) and leaves with a small lead (one or two points) or completely loses the lead all together. I wonder how exhausting that is for the starters; doing things right on your end only to have another unit piss it all away. Yet, I'm supposed to say it's the starters fault for losing close games? There wouldn't be as many close games if the bench play was even average!

It doesn't matter if the bench is the reason because the only assets we have to improve are our starters. We are up against the cap and will be next season as well. We have 12 guys signed for next season and have over 66 mil in salary, so whether you guys like it or not we are going to have to move someone and Pek is the likely answer due to his salary and the simple fact that he is the most easily replaced due to his one dimensional game.

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

"All you can ask of a bench is keep the game close for the starters to finish it out and our starters are horrible at finishing games."

Lol I disagree. I think the job of a bench is to keep the lead the starters got the same or relatively close to what it was when they left the floor. If the starters didn't create a lead, then it's their job to keep it close enough for them to get a lead. What our bench does is come in with a decent lead (talking 10-12 points or so) and leaves with a small lead (one or two points) or completely loses the lead all together. I wonder how exhausting that is for the starters; doing things right on your end only to have another unit piss it all away. Yet, I'm supposed to say it's the starters fault for losing close games? There wouldn't be as many close games if the bench play was even average!

It doesn't matter if the bench is the reason because the only assets we have to improve are our starters. We are up against the cap and will be next season as well. We have 12 guys signed for next season and have over 66 mil in salary, so whether you guys like it or not we are going to have to move someone and Pek is the likely answer due to his salary and the simple fact that he is the most easily replaced due to his one dimensional game.

A few bench changes and the wolves will be in the playoffs easily