Cam's Off-Season Breakdown

[worldK]

BLEEDS OFFSEASON

Assets:

Off-Season Trade Ideas:

- Minnesota trades J.J. Barea and Budinger for to the Bucks for OJ Mayo. Mayo was a disaster for the Bucks and we would help them get out of the contract. I think Mayo, Shabazz, and Love would click.

Salary Cap:
-Will just have MLE - won't use it unless perfect 2 way player is available.

NBA Draft

- "With the 13th pick in the 2014 NBA draft, the Minnesota Timberwolves select... Kyle Anderson, guard, UCLA" He becomes the second guy off the bench for Shabazz and Rubio and Love. Long jack of all trades player for us.
- In the second round, there will be plenty of guards with promise to choose from. Players that I have interest in are: Jordan Adams of UCLA would be my pick. Young scorer that is tough. We don't have any guards like this.


Free Agency:

-Jimmer Fredette for vet minimum. He would provide shooting next to Rubio or Anderson.
-Trevor Booker for vet minimum - Adds some that is physically tough to the bench.
-Aaron Brooks for vet minimum

Final Roster:

PG: Rubio, Brooks, Shved
SG: Mayo, Martin, Adams, Fredette
SF: Muhammad, Brewer
PF: Love, Booker
C: Pekovic, Dieng, Turiaf
*Anderson would backup Rubio, Muhammad, and Love in most situations

Coach would be Hoiberg

Bleed, mayo has worn out his welcome on the 3 teams he played for. The talent is there and if he is making 4m a year, i would take a chance at him but not 8m.

Also, No way is jimmer and trevor booker signing with us for vet minimum. That has no realistic chance of happening. I see them getting contract offers of around 2m/yr, not minimum.

I dont see hoiberg as coach as well. I like the mayor and he could be a good coach down the line but he dont have nba coaching experience and is fairly new as hc in college. He would serve well with a stint as assistant first before jumping into the fray as hc.

[Papalrep]

World K -- My wish list would be batum.

Hell yes. Pair him with Ricky. Potential is Nash/Matrix. For this I could see parting with the big lug Pek. Unfortunately, I think Pek's injury history is going to make them think twice

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

World K -- My wish list would be batum.

Hell yes. Pair him with Ricky. Potential is Nash/Matrix. For this I could see parting with the big lug Pek. Unfortunately, I think Pek's injury history is going to make them think twice

Why in the world would Portland trade away Batum?

[Papalrep]

The assumption is they want Pek next to Aldridge. I know, it's a reach.

[worldK]

World K -- My wish list would be batum.

Hell yes. Pair him with Ricky. Potential is Nash/Matrix. For this I could see parting with the big lug Pek. Unfortunately, I think Pek's injury history is going to make them think twice

Papa- Batum would be ideal for the team. His versatility as well as his playmaking,ball handling and shooting would be huge for the team. You can pair him with bazz at the wings as batum can defend both sg and sf. Batum can also play with our other wings like brewer,martin,bud.

Blazers have lopez as their center and he has done a great job for them. Pek on his part would be ideal fit next to aldrige and be the pick and roll partner of lillars. It might have to take us swapping our lottery pick for the blazers pick in the mid 20's as well as a pek and batum swap for the blazers to consider it. Its still not likely to happen though.

[Lipoli390]

I'm pretty sure the Bucks would deal Mayo to us for JJ and Moute. The question is whether we would really benefit from having Mayo. I think so, but I'm not sure.

I think Volans has suggested a good and very realistic exchange of JJ and Moute for Nelson.

[kekgeek]

I know I have been known for bad trade proposals so here is another, I was at the game today, and I think Pek is expendable, I am not saying just give him away, but I think Dieng can be our starting Center next year.

So what about this Pek and two seconds for the Morris Twins and the Washington 1st they have.
Then do the trade that has been talked about on this board a lot Mayo for Barea and LRAM

It then gives us flexibility with two first round picks, maybe we could trade our pick for Wilson Chandler and with the Wash pick select a guy like Stauskas if available or James Young

So we would have the MLE for a guy like Blake or Hinrich

PG: Rubio/Blake/Price
SG: Kmart/Mayo/Stauskas or Young/Bud
SF: Brewer/Chandler/Shabazz/Bud
PF: Love/Morris twin/Morris Twin
C: Dieng/Turiaf/Love

We are approximately 60 Million (so a little over the cap, this was adding in Stauskas or Young rookie scale value) before using the MLE, so I somewhat understand the MLE, so do we get 5 million to spend because we are over the cap or is it less because before making deals we would have been a little under the cap

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

Volans Offseason Plan

Trade ideas:

JJ and Moute to the Magic for Jameer Nelson

I think that this is a deal the Magic would make because they get rid of Nelson's 8.6 mil contract and they get back Barea's expiring and get Moute to help mentor their young SF's in the art of defense (ok maybe that last bit doesn't make a whole lot of sense)

Draft

Pick the best available SG or PF

OR

Bundle the 13th pick with Pekovic and Budinger for a starting caliber wing, i.e. Deng, Derozan, Batum
or use Pekovic and the 13 to move up in the top 7 but Budinger has to be moved with him, I don't think you can move him by himself without taking on a worse contract

Free Agency

Full MLE for Andray Blatche (biggest headache player in the league if you ask me, but he is damn good when he is on).

or

Cheap offers for players like Ben Gordon, Elton Brand, Chris Kaman (only if we trade Pek), Hinrich, maybe throw an offer to Fredette if the price is right, I wouldn't give him more than 2 mil a year.

Ideal Lineup

Rubio/ Nelson/ Shved
Martin/ Rookie
Brewer/ Bazz/ Budinger
Love/ Blatche
Pek/ Dieng/ Turiaf

a 9 million dollar 32 year old as a backup? You still have to pay Ricky next year you know. Hate that idea

Pek alone is worth a lot of those guys, giving up our pick too would be dumb. If anything, we should get a pick back.

Since when is Blatche a PF? I always assumed he was a clear cut center. Why would you need Pek AND Deing AND Turiaf AND Blatche?

With your lineup, your going to either have to trade Ricky or let him walk because the wolves will be way over the cap

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Blatche can play either position. Really versatile big man on offense.

[Volans19]

Volans Offseason Plan

Trade ideas:

JJ and Moute to the Magic for Jameer Nelson

I think that this is a deal the Magic would make because they get rid of Nelson's 8.6 mil contract and they get back Barea's expiring and get Moute to help mentor their young SF's in the art of defense (ok maybe that last bit doesn't make a whole lot of sense)

Draft

Pick the best available SG or PF

OR

Bundle the 13th pick with Pekovic and Budinger for a starting caliber wing, i.e. Deng, Derozan, Batum
or use Pekovic and the 13 to move up in the top 7 but Budinger has to be moved with him, I don't think you can move him by himself without taking on a worse contract

Free Agency

Full MLE for Andray Blatche (biggest headache player in the league if you ask me, but he is damn good when he is on).

or

Cheap offers for players like Ben Gordon, Elton Brand, Chris Kaman (only if we trade Pek), Hinrich, maybe throw an offer to Fredette if the price is right, I wouldn't give him more than 2 mil a year.

Ideal Lineup

Rubio/ Nelson/ Shved
Martin/ Rookie
Brewer/ Bazz/ Budinger
Love/ Blatche
Pek/ Dieng/ Turiaf

a 9 million dollar 32 year old as a backup? You still have to pay Ricky next year you know. Hate that idea

Pek alone is worth a lot of those guys, giving up our pick too would be dumb. If anything, we should get a pick back.

Since when is Blatche a PF? I always assumed he was a clear cut center. Why would you need Pek AND Deing AND Turiaf AND Blatche?

With your lineup, your going to either have to trade Ricky or let him walk because the wolves will be way over the cap

1. Nelson is on the books for 2 more years at 8.6 mil, but he is only guaranteed 2 mil. When we have to pay Rubi next year we cut him. Think of it this way, instead of tying up 9 mil in Barea and Luc we are just spending it on a better back-up who we can cut next year. We make out with less cap entanglements.

*EDIT* I thought that Moute was under contract trough 2016 because under his ESPN player profile it says he has 3 yrs remaining, but looking at Sporttrac he is an expiring next year, whoops. Also the word is that the Magic plan to cut Nelson after this season unless they can get something worthwhile so we may have a shot at him in FA if we are willing to offer up more than other teams and his desire for a championship isn't a determining factor.

2. "Pek alone is worth a lot of those guys" I agree, I would rather have Pek than most of those guys. Problem is we have no other bargaining chips, we would have to move Pek to get a legit wing. Centers are not in high demand in this league right now and wings are which would make him harder to move than you think, I think that adding our pick to a trade with Pek and Budinger makes it much more tolerable for both the Wolves and other teams. I'm just trying to be realistic.

3. Blatche had spent most of his career playing at PF, this year the Nets have been playing him at C because of injuries. Here are his career stats http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Andray+Blatche . Ideally the Wolves would give him the full MLE for one year guaranteed with a team option for year 2. He is more of an offensive player, I would see no issue with Blatche and Dieng on the floor at the same time.

4. With my plan we would have the even less cap commitments when Rubio is up for an extension on 2015.

5. I get it, it's fun playing armchair gm. I'm just trying to look at this offseason more realistically. We aren't going to get anything great in return for Barea, Pek is a really good one dimensonial injury prone player, Budinger, Moute, and Shved will only attract offers from teams who are trying to get rid of worse contracts.