Brogdon

[Porckchop]

Could Portland look to flip him right away as well? Man would he look good in white,blue and green. Do we have anything to offer?

[KG4Ever]

Could Portland look to flip him right away as well? Man would he look good in white,blue and green. Do we have anything to offer?

Brogdon has a hefty contract and is injury prone, so I don't think he has much, if any, trade value. To make salaries match, I think Wolves would have to trade Conley or Naz plus Slomo. I probably prefer Conley, but even if I didn't, Portland wouldn't want Conley unless we sweetened the pot with someone like Leonard Miller or all our remaining second round picks and I just don't see Brogdon worthy of that. I have no interest in Brogdon unless he is waived and is available on a minimum contract and comes in as a JMac replacement. At this point, I have a lot of confidence in Shake and he's almost four years younger than Brogdon and doesn't have the injury history of Brogdon. Plus, I love Conley's zen demeanor and leadership and fit on this team, so I don't want to rock that boat.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Could Portland look to flip him right away as well? Man would he look good in white,blue and green. Do we have anything to offer?

Brogdon has a hefty contract and is injury prone, so I don't think he has much, if any, trade value. To make salaries match, I think Wolves would have to trade Conley or Naz plus Slomo. I probably prefer Conley, but even if I didn't, Portland wouldn't want Conley unless we sweetened the pot with someone like Leonard Miller or all our remaining second round picks and I just don't see Brogdon worthy of that. I have no interest in Brogdon unless he is waived and is available on a minimum contract and comes in as a JMac replacement. At this point, I have a lot of confidence in Shake and he's almost four years younger than Brogdon and doesn't have the injury history of Brogdon. Plus, I love Conley's zen demeanor and leadership and fit on this team, so I don't want to rock that boat.

Ouch.

67 games
14.9 ppg
4.2 reb
3.7 apg
48.4% fg
44.4% 3fg

_________

Yes, he gets injured. And it's a very real concern. Missed games by season:

2017: 7
34
18
19
16
46
2023: 15
= 155

But it's not like Mike Conley has been Mr. Ironman. He played all 24 in MN last season down the stretch, but nobody should be planning anything close to that this season:

2017: 13
70
12
25
21
10
2023: 15
= 153

[KG4Ever]

Could Portland look to flip him right away as well? Man would he look good in white,blue and green. Do we have anything to offer?

Brogdon has a hefty contract and is injury prone, so I don't think he has much, if any, trade value. To make salaries match, I think Wolves would have to trade Conley or Naz plus Slomo. I probably prefer Conley, but even if I didn't, Portland wouldn't want Conley unless we sweetened the pot with someone like Leonard Miller or all our remaining second round picks and I just don't see Brogdon worthy of that. I have no interest in Brogdon unless he is waived and is available on a minimum contract and comes in as a JMac replacement. At this point, I have a lot of confidence in Shake and he's almost four years younger than Brogdon and doesn't have the injury history of Brogdon. Plus, I love Conley's zen demeanor and leadership and fit on this team, so I don't want to rock that boat.

Ouch.

67 games
14.9 ppg
4.2 reb
3.7 apg
48.4% fg
44.4% 3fg

_________

Yes, he gets injured. And it's a very real concern. Missed games by season:

2017: 7
34
18
19
16
46
2023: 15
= 155

But it's not like Mike Conley has been Mr. Ironman. He played all 24 in MN last season down the stretch, but nobody should be planning anything close to that this season:

2017: 13
70
12
25
21
10
2023: 15
= 153

Brogdon is not bad, but I have confidence in Conley and Shake and don't see the need to give up assets for him. Plus, Conley is regarded as having a very good locker room presence and I have read negative things about Brogdon's presence. Also, Brogdon's salary is more than 20 M next year and Conley may resign much cheaper and I also like Monte Morris better and think we could get him much cheaper next year. I get that Brogdon is younger than Conley and does some things better than Mike, but Brogdon's injury history, salary in 24-25 and the likelihood Portland would only trade him for assets I want to keep (e.g. Leonard Miller or deplete our remaining picks) make me very hesitant, given that I'm not convinced at all it would be an upgrade or needle moving deal over the Conley and Shake tandem.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Well, I won't disagree with much of that... but that reply from you is a far cry with what you had in bold before.

Obviously, Brogdon is significantly better than a vet minimum guy or someone who'd only be brought in as a better J. McLaughlin.



[Note: As for Milton, we'll see. I know there's the mini-run in Philadelphia at the point, but until I see it in MN... I see PG as the great potential bugaboo for the Wolves in 2024.]

[KG4Ever]

Well, I won't disagree with much of that... but that reply from you is a far cry with what you had in bold before.

Obviously, Brogdon is significantly better than a vet minimum guy or someone who'd only be brought in as a better J. McLaughlin.



[Note: As for Milton, we'll see. I know there's the mini-run in Philadelphia at the point, but until I see it in MN... I see PG as the great potential bugaboo for the Wolves in 2024.]

Maybe, I didn't artfully word what I meant. I essentially meant I have zero interest in trading for him knowing what it likely would take to get him and I'm also not interested in taking on his salary given our salary constraints next year. I never said Brogdon was a minimum guy and I agree that he deserves much more, but I would rather some other team take on his salary and give up the assets it would take to get him.

[Monster]

Well, I won't disagree with much of that... but that reply from you is a far cry with what you had in bold before.

Obviously, Brogdon is significantly better than a vet minimum guy or someone who'd only be brought in as a better J. McLaughlin.



[Note: As for Milton, we'll see. I know there's the mini-run in Philadelphia at the point, but until I see it in MN... I see PG as the great potential bugaboo for the Wolves in 2024.]

Maybe, I didn't artfully word what I meant. I essentially meant I have zero interest in trading for him knowing what it likely would take to get him and I'm also not interested in taking on his salary given our salary constraints next year. I never said Brogdon was a minimum guy and I agree that he deserves much more, but I would rather some other team take on his salary and give up the assets it would take to get him.

I’d rather roll with Conley because he is an actual NBA PG but I would not be surprised if Portland would happily take Conley and one year less of paying Brogdon and not hold out for some other assets. The Wolves have invested in younger bigger guard options already. I don’t think they are gonna give up the salary matching players it would take to acquire Brogdon.

[Lipoli390]

Well, I won't disagree with much of that... but that reply from you is a far cry with what you had in bold before.

Obviously, Brogdon is significantly better than a vet minimum guy or someone who'd only be brought in as a better J. McLaughlin.



[Note: As for Milton, we'll see. I know there's the mini-run in Philadelphia at the point, but until I see it in MN... I see PG as the great potential bugaboo for the Wolves in 2024.]

Maybe, I didn't artfully word what I meant. I essentially meant I have zero interest in trading for him knowing what it likely would take to get him and I'm also not interested in taking on his salary given our salary constraints next year. I never said Brogdon was a minimum guy and I agree that he deserves much more, but I would rather some other team take on his salary and give up the assets it would take to get him.

I’d rather roll with Conley because he is an actual NBA PG but I would not be surprised if Portland would happily take Conley and one year less of paying Brogdon and not hold out for some other assets. The Wolves have invested in younger bigger guard options already. I don’t think they are gonna give up the salary matching players it would take to acquire Brogdon.

I agree, Monster. I wouldn’t even consider swapping Conley for Brogdon. And I agree that Portland would happily swap Brogdon for Conley.