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Q-is-here wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:25 am
kekgeek wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:21 am We are really going to see how the wolves view Wendall Moore if he gets called up or not. Jmac injury is not a killer but they are one injury away now from it really hurting
I trust Nix more than Moore. And Nix was terrible with Houston, but may be if he's out there with a handful of starters he does OK. For example, I'd make sure Anderson is on the floor with Nix (or Moore Jr. if that's the direction they go).
I would also trust Nix over Moore. And I agree that Anderson should be on the court when Nix is playing if that’s the route they go. Watching the Wolves so far this season has deepened my application for what Mike Conley brings to this team and how important he is to this team’s success. He’s the team’s only elite ball-handler among the starters and he has been crucial to getting the offense in sync as well as hitting big shots when needed. He’s also been a terrific defender. He looks healthy and at the top of his game, but we can’t forget that he’s 35 years old and has a history of missing a significant number of games with various injuries.

I was a bit worried about the backup PG position coming into the season. After seeing how important Conley has been to organizing the offense and defending so far this season, I see the backup PG as even more important that I did at the outset. Watching Milton so far tells me he can’t adequately provide what Conley provides while JMac strikes me as someone who can. Now JMac’s out for at least a month. I say at least because the report is that he’ll be reevaluated in a month. It’s not like losing Ant or Jaden for a month, but it’s troubling in a battle for playoff position in which every game will matter and a point here or there could easily be the difference between a 6th seed and a 3rd seed.
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Lipoli390 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:50 pm
Q-is-here wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:25 am
kekgeek wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:21 am We are really going to see how the wolves view Wendall Moore if he gets called up or not. Jmac injury is not a killer but they are one injury away now from it really hurting
I trust Nix more than Moore. And Nix was terrible with Houston, but may be if he's out there with a handful of starters he does OK. For example, I'd make sure Anderson is on the floor with Nix (or Moore Jr. if that's the direction they go).
I would also trust Nix over Moore. And I agree that Anderson should be on the court when Nix is playing if that’s the route they go. Watching the Wolves so far this season has deepened my application for what Mike Conley brings to this team and how important he is to this team’s success. He’s the team’s only elite ball-handler among the starters and he has been crucial to getting the offense in sync as well as hitting big shots when needed. He’s also been a terrific defender. He looks healthy and at the top of his game, but we can’t forget that he’s 35 years old and has a history of missing a significant number of games with various injuries.

I was a bit worried about the backup PG position coming into the season. After seeing how important Conley has been to organizing the offense and defending so far this season, I see the backup PG as even more important that I did at the outset. Watching Milton so far tells me he can’t adequately provide what Conley provides while JMac strikes me as someone who can. Now JMac’s out for at least a month. I say at least because the report is that he’ll be reevaluated in a month. It’s not like losing Ant or Jaden for a month, but it’s troubling in a battle for playoff position in which every game will matter and a point here or there could easily be the difference between a 6th seed and a 3rd seed.
Shake Milton isn’t gonna playing like Mike Conley but that doesn’t mean he can’t bring value as some sort of PG. he is a different player but he would probably play the position more like Russell than Conley. That’s not a terrible thing in general. If Conley and anderson were to both be hurt (that would be tough regardless) and they don’t have McLaughlin…they might have to go get some sort of actual PG type even for a few weeks if Shake and or Nix don’t step up and be somewhat effective.
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I didn't watch last night, but per the box, NAW had a team high 8 assists. Was he playing PG? Or just being very unselfish?

Edit - Edwards also had 8 assists. Still - curious how the PG situation was playing out. Looks like they survived without JMac.
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Carlos Danger wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:59 am I didn't watch last night, but per the box, NAW had a team high 8 assists. Was he playing PG? Or just being very unselfish?

Edit - Edwards also had 8 assists. Still - curious how the PG situation was playing out. Looks like they survived without JMac.
Yes, I think Finch is forced to put NAW on the ball as a pseudo-PG when he's in the game. The reality is that he's the guy that brings it up the court and then usually dumps it off to Kyle Anderson at the top of the key to run the play. I think last night was such a romp that NAW got a lot of assists by default versus any sort of playmaking wizardry. He did throw that one off the backboard for Ant which was pretty cool, but otherwise nothing stood out about his passing.
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Q-is-here wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:01 am
Carlos Danger wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:59 am I didn't watch last night, but per the box, NAW had a team high 8 assists. Was he playing PG? Or just being very unselfish?

Edit - Edwards also had 8 assists. Still - curious how the PG situation was playing out. Looks like they survived without JMac.
Yes, I think Finch is forced to put NAW on the ball as a pseudo-PG when he's in the game. The reality is that he's the guy that brings it up the court and then usually dumps it off to Kyle Anderson at the top of the key to run the play. I think last night was such a romp that NAW got a lot of assists by default versus any sort of playmaking wizardry. He did throw that one off the backboard for Ant which was pretty cool, but otherwise nothing stood out about his passing.
NAW’s one passing skill that’s well above average is whipping passes to the wing with I think either hand. He is very good at it. He picked up a number of assists that way early in the game.
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Monster wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:54 am
Q-is-here wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:01 am
Carlos Danger wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:59 am I didn't watch last night, but per the box, NAW had a team high 8 assists. Was he playing PG? Or just being very unselfish?

Edit - Edwards also had 8 assists. Still - curious how the PG situation was playing out. Looks like they survived without JMac.
Yes, I think Finch is forced to put NAW on the ball as a pseudo-PG when he's in the game. The reality is that he's the guy that brings it up the court and then usually dumps it off to Kyle Anderson at the top of the key to run the play. I think last night was such a romp that NAW got a lot of assists by default versus any sort of playmaking wizardry. He did throw that one off the backboard for Ant which was pretty cool, but otherwise nothing stood out about his passing.
NAW’s one passing skill that’s well above average is whipping passes to the wing with I think either hand. He is very good at it. He picked up a number of assists that way early in the game.
Yeah, he's quick and pretty good at making an initial foray into the paint, which gets the defense to collapse and leaves shooters open. The problem is when they don't collapse and a big is able to man the paint, at which point he becomes somewhat clueless in how to finish in traffic.
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Q-is-here wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:27 pm
Monster wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:54 am
Q-is-here wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:01 am

Yes, I think Finch is forced to put NAW on the ball as a pseudo-PG when he's in the game. The reality is that he's the guy that brings it up the court and then usually dumps it off to Kyle Anderson at the top of the key to run the play. I think last night was such a romp that NAW got a lot of assists by default versus any sort of playmaking wizardry. He did throw that one off the backboard for Ant which was pretty cool, but otherwise nothing stood out about his passing.
NAW’s one passing skill that’s well above average is whipping passes to the wing with I think either hand. He is very good at it. He picked up a number of assists that way early in the game.
Yeah, he's quick and pretty good at making an initial foray into the paint, which gets the defense to collapse and leaves shooters open. The problem is when they don't collapse and a big is able to man the paint, at which point he becomes somewhat clueless in how to finish in traffic.
Yep scoring in the paint ain’t his thing. He will have some drop offs to bigs at times while he is there as well. Assuming he can be a reasonably effective streaky 3 point shooter his value as a playmaker passer can be quite useful as teams/players will contest his outside shot and he can drive and make some plays.

Meanwhile Shake hasn’t shown much in terms of playmaking and passing as Wolf other than stuff you would reasonably expect from a guy that’s a guard that does more than just take jump shots. I believe here is more there but he might need more time with the team and system to find his spots. At this point I’d be ok if he just found his way as a scorer and fired the rest out later. That might be what the Wolves have done with him as we have seen NAW being up the ball quite a bit on the 2nd unit.
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Monster wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:32 pm
Q-is-here wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:27 pm
Monster wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:54 am

NAW’s one passing skill that’s well above average is whipping passes to the wing with I think either hand. He is very good at it. He picked up a number of assists that way early in the game.
Yeah, he's quick and pretty good at making an initial foray into the paint, which gets the defense to collapse and leaves shooters open. The problem is when they don't collapse and a big is able to man the paint, at which point he becomes somewhat clueless in how to finish in traffic.
Yep scoring in the paint ain’t his thing. He will have some drop offs to bigs at times while he is there as well. Assuming he can be a reasonably effective streaky 3 point shooter his value as a playmaker passer can be quite useful as teams/players will contest his outside shot and he can drive and make some plays.

Meanwhile Shake hasn’t shown much in terms of playmaking and passing as Wolf other than stuff you would reasonably expect from a guy that’s a guard that does more than just take jump shots. I believe here is more there but he might need more time with the team and system to find his spots. At this point I’d be ok if he just found his way as a scorer and fired the rest out later. That might be what the Wolves have done with him as we have seen NAW being up the ball quite a bit on the 2nd unit.
I don't think Shake has been asked to run much offense yet. But I think he's capable based on the assist numbers he has put up in Philly when given bigger minutes. Btw, Last April, Shake got 16 assists against the Atlanta Hawks. Here is link: https://www.nba.com/watch/video/shake-m ... anta-hawks
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