Timberwolves Trade Deadline Feb. 8

[Q-is-here]

C'mon FNG, you can't just look at 3 pt%! You're smart enough to know that volume matters too. We simply don't take enough and teams are going to continue to clog the paint to prevent Ant, KAT, and Gobert from getting buckets at the rim. A clear example of this is Kyle Anderson, whose horrible 3pt% hardly weighs down the team 3pt% because he hardly takes any. And he is clearly hurting the offense!

I do agree that there is a defensive dropoff if Kyle gets swapped out for a 3-pt sniper like Bogdan, so I myself am on the fence with that tradeoff. But go look at Bogdan's net rating and net on/off rating for the past four seasons. Obviously whatever he is doing is leading to winning basketball, so his defense can't be THAT bad.

Q, I agree that volume matters, and Kyle doesn't help there at all. But Kyle helps out in so many other ways...not only has he been a terrific defender this season, but he is also a key part of Finchie's offensive design against zone defenses. Kyle immediately moves into the lane when an opponent goes zone, and has been very good in distributing in that role.

All that said, there's no question that Bogdanovic's shooting would be a great help off the bench. But when I look at the five players we would have to give up to match salaries, I think this trade would leave us with a deleted bench. Not to mention I don't like the idea of shaking things up when we are in first place. Interesting idea, but I still would be opposed.

which goes back to this team having no urgency to seek players either from G League or off the scrap heap who can help.


Daishen Nix is a PG who can't sniff the floor when we desperately could use one. Why is he still here? We need three point shooting any way we can find it, yet we don't seek it out. This team has guys who look great in G-League only for the Iowa Wolves to still be 3-11. I just don't see what is being accomplished there.

Yeah, there are no real volume 3-point shooters we have in Iowa. DJ Carton might be the closest thing we have to a legit NBA backup PG, but it's an open question as to whether he's any better than Jordan McLaughlin. And McLaughlin has actual NBA experience even if DJ has more upside.

[KiwiMatt]

Not sold on Bogdan Bogdanovic. His contract, not him as a player and what he would bring as I think he would definitely help.

He's 31, signed for 3 more seasons after this one for 50 mil. There is a team option on his last year (26/27). We will be struggling to retain our current roster into next season let alone including an extra 17 mil for his contract.

Would rather wait for the buyout market, or target a cheaper, short term contracted shooter like Alec Burks if we are to go down that route.

[Phenom]

I think the buyout market is probably the way to go this year. It will be less disruptive to what the team has going and the Wolves should be one of the better options for buyout guys since most of the contenders are hard capped or blocked in whatever way from signing mid tier salary guys.

I would think Shake, TBJ and Wendell are particularly available and I would be fine flipping them (especially Shake and WMJ) for a piece on the off chance that someone else might get more traction here. I'd prefer to have TBJ around.

It might be the right time to move SloMo but I would be picky as having his extra size is a nice luxury.

I'm excited to see what the buyout market produces and I don't think I've ever thought that before.

[WildWolf2813]

I think the buyout market is probably the way to go this year. It will be less disruptive to what the team has going and the Wolves should be one of the better options for buyout guys since most of the contenders are hard capped or blocked in whatever way from signing mid tier salary guys.

I would think Shake, TBJ and Wendell are particularly available and I would be fine flipping them (especially Shake and WMJ) for a piece on the off chance that someone else might get more traction here. I'd prefer to have TBJ around.

It might be the right time to move SloMo but I would be picky as having his extra size is a nice luxury.

I'm excited to see what the buyout market produces and I don't think I've ever thought that before.

regardless of the buyout market, I'd love to deal Moore for a 2nd. Just feels like there's no real point to having him around. Maybe a team like Philly could use him.

[kekgeek]

I think the buyout market is probably the way to go this year. It will be less disruptive to what the team has going and the Wolves should be one of the better options for buyout guys since most of the contenders are hard capped or blocked in whatever way from signing mid tier salary guys.

I would think Shake, TBJ and Wendell are particularly available and I would be fine flipping them (especially Shake and WMJ) for a piece on the off chance that someone else might get more traction here. I'd prefer to have TBJ around.

It might be the right time to move SloMo but I would be picky as having his extra size is a nice luxury.

I'm excited to see what the buyout market produces and I don't think I've ever thought that before.

regardless of the buyout market, I'd love to deal Moore for a 2nd. Just feels like there's no real point to having him around. Maybe a team like Philly could use him.

He does not have 2nd round value. He is shooting 32% in the G League. Unfortunately it’s looking Connelly massively missed

[60WinTim]

I think the buyout market is probably the way to go this year. It will be less disruptive to what the team has going and the Wolves should be one of the better options for buyout guys since most of the contenders are hard capped or blocked in whatever way from signing mid tier salary guys.

I would think Shake, TBJ and Wendell are particularly available and I would be fine flipping them (especially Shake and WMJ) for a piece on the off chance that someone else might get more traction here. I'd prefer to have TBJ around.

It might be the right time to move SloMo but I would be picky as having his extra size is a nice luxury.

I'm excited to see what the buyout market produces and I don't think I've ever thought that before.

regardless of the buyout market, I'd love to deal Moore for a 2nd. Just feels like there's no real point to having him around. Maybe a team like Philly could use him.

He does not have 2nd round value. He is shooting 32% in the G League. Unfortunately it’s looking Connelly massively missed

I was really surprised when they pick up his option for next year. He’s on the books.

[kekgeek]

regardless of the buyout market, I'd love to deal Moore for a 2nd. Just feels like there's no real point to having him around. Maybe a team like Philly could use him.

He does not have 2nd round value. He is shooting 32% in the G League. Unfortunately it’s looking Connelly massively missed

I was really surprised when they pick up his option for next year. He’s on the books.

I think it’s because he makes a little bit more than a 2nd round pick so his salary can be put in trades and trust the developmental program. Obviously not working out well

[Lipoli390]

I think the buyout market is probably the way to go this year. It will be less disruptive to what the team has going and the Wolves should be one of the better options for buyout guys since most of the contenders are hard capped or blocked in whatever way from signing mid tier salary guys.

I would think Shake, TBJ and Wendell are particularly available and I would be fine flipping them (especially Shake and WMJ) for a piece on the off chance that someone else might get more traction here. I'd prefer to have TBJ around.

It might be the right time to move SloMo but I would be picky as having his extra size is a nice luxury.

I'm excited to see what the buyout market produces and I don't think I've ever thought that before.

regardless of the buyout market, I'd love to deal Moore for a 2nd. Just feels like there's no real point to having him around. Maybe a team like Philly could use him.

He does not have 2nd round value. He is shooting 32% in the G League. Unfortunately it’s looking Connelly massively missed

TC’s massive miss picking Moore at #26 is compounded by the fact that Ty Ty Washington was available and ended up the #29 pick. Currently, Ty Ty is averaging 20 points, 9.7 assists, 4.3 rebounds and 1.4 steals in the G-League. He’s also hitting 42% of his threes on a substantial volume of 7.6 attempts. Ty Ty was the guy I wanted us to take with that pick. He seemed like an obvious choice, especially given the NBA success of Kentucky PGs. Sure would be nice to have Ty Ty on one of our 3-way deals right how.

[60WinTim]

Tick tick tick... Counting down to the 8th!

I think TBJ has a lot of value for us. He has experience and played well when called upon. He can reasonably fill in from 2-4. If one of our 2-4 guys goes down for awhile, TBJ can easily be part of the rotation adjustment without causing much disruption.

I can't help but think our greatest need is PG/combo guard who adds depth to our backcourt. While a guy like Monte Morris is intriguing, it's hard to find matching salaries and reasons why the other team would pull the trigger, especially when there might be better offers out there.

That's why my mind keeps coming back to Delon Wright. He seems like he would really fill that void nicely. He might even compete for Jmac's minutes, and would provide depth behind Conley, JMac and NAW. Salary matching is easily done. He may not be as in-demand as some other players. And we can see some compelling reasons for Washington to pull the trigger. Shake would be the main guy going out, along with whatever else is required to get the deal done. Shake would be an "optional expiring" contract with his team option for next year, giving Washington control. Shake is still a young player with potential that Washing could give a test drive in an environment where he is not buried on the bench.

The other player we shouldn't sleep on is Bones Hyland. He is available, and TC knows whether he is worth pursuing or not.

[Lipoli390]

Tick tick tick... Counting down to the 8th!

I think TBJ has a lot of value for us. He has experience and played well when called upon. He can reasonably fill in from 2-4. If one of our 2-4 guys goes down for awhile, TBJ can easily be part of the rotation adjustment without causing much disruption.

I can't help but think our greatest need is PG/combo guard who adds depth to our backcourt. While a guy like Monte Morris is intriguing, it's hard to find matching salaries and reasons why the other team would pull the trigger, especially when there might be better offers out there.

That's why my mind keeps coming back to Delon Wright. He seems like he would really fill that void nicely. He might even compete for Jmac's minutes, and would provide depth behind Conley, JMac and NAW. Salary matching is easily done. He may not be as in-demand as some other players. And we can see some compelling reasons for Washington to pull the trigger. Shake would be the main guy going out, along with whatever else is required to get the deal done. Shake would be an "optional expiring" contract with his team option for next year, giving Washington control. Shake is still a young player with potential that Washing could give a test drive in an environment where he is not buried on the bench.

The other player we shouldn't sleep on is Bones Hyland. He is available, and TC knows whether he is worth pursuing or not.

I agree that Delon Wright would be a nice pickup, but I wouldn’t give up “whatever else is required…”. If we can’t get him straight up for Shake and Moore then forget about it. Bones could be a nice pickup as well. Otherwise, I’d focus on getting Lowry on a buyout.