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FNG wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:17 am
Q-is-here wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:13 am Kekgeek, damn, I didn't realize how pessimistic you were until now. A first round exit!? What troubles you about this squad? Or is it just a feeling of doom, something not unusual for Minnesota sports fans. May be you should stop hanging around with Abe so much.
Yeah, Kek seems to be "righter" than many of us here with his takes, so I also have concerns about his relative pessimism. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that we just don't know what Randle is going to bring us...it's still a big mystery.

This is what makes me optimistic though. Only the Wolves and the Celtics had 7 players in ESPN's top 100 list that just came out. With 30 teams in the league, it means that you are equivalent to being a top 3 player on an average team if you make the list...so we have 7 players who are considered the equivalent of a top 3 player! All of our rotation players except NAW made the top 100, and Ant was #10. That's recognition that we are one of the deepest, if not the deepest, rosters in the Association. And that's without including guys like Ingles, Minott, Rob, TJ and Garza.
Completely fair. I want to say I think the Wolves are a very good team, I am a big fan of Ant, Jaden, Rudy and the surrounding pieces. I think the wolves win 49 games this year because they were relatively healthy last year and I think they take a minor step back there and also I think they are going to rest people more.

My Concerns
- I think we added a big piece in Randle who has never been my favorite player ever. I think he is super talented but I think his effort really goes in and out based on how he is feeling that day. We need 5 locked in players defensively to make this defense continuing to be elite. Ant can get lost off ball and so can Randle. I think on ball we will still be good but I just worry about his effort level a lot. To go along with that I think the first year playing with Rudy will always be clunky, it took Mike a year in Utah to get used to playing with Rudy. Now Randle has some experience playing with a no spacing big in Mitchell Robinson but I do think there is going to be a learning curve there.

-I think we are a Rudy injury away from the year going really south quick. Rudy is the hub that makes this defense special. If Rudy would of missed time last year I think Kat could fill in and we still would of been a solid defense. Now I don't think we have that luxury. I have documented for years the struggles the wolves have had having Naz play center defensively, when Randle had to play small ball center for the Knicks last year the Knicks were in the 18th percentile defensively so really really bad. Then our other option at center is Garza who I like but he can't play center in meaningful minutes. We are one Rudy injury away from being a bad defensive team I hate to say.

-I am not as sold on our depth as others are, I think Donte is a stud, I like Naz but don't love him as much as others do and think he is pretty overrated (Good player still), I think Dilly is really going to struggle this year (Like him long term), I am really worried about NAW, he is going to be asked to play more PG and his shot has been a rollercoaster mostly going down since the playoffs, I am worried that last year could of just been a spike year. Ingles age is a questionmark and I have loved what Minnott has brought but I need to see it in real NBA games. I just don't think we have this elite depth that everyone says we do. I don't think its bad but I don't think its this unbelievable strength that they have.

- Finally I think the west got better, Suns better, Grizzlies better, people say the nuggets are worse but I am not sure KCP really that huge of a difference. I just think small things change the narrative of the season. What would we have said if we didn't come back down 20 to the nuggets in game 7. That would of been 4 blow out losses. I just think the margin of error is not that big between team 1 and team 6 in the west and I don't think the wolves are going to get a top 2 seed because they are going to have some injuries and play the rest game this year. Also we are the hunted now not the huntee.

-Also Mike was health last year for the first time in a long time. Will that continue we don't have natural PG backing him up this year in Morris and Jmac. An already clunky offesne could get massively clunky if it is 48 minutes without a true PG for the wolves. Look at the suns last year that is what the wolves could look like. A talent squad with issues runny a functioning offense.

- Once again I think the Wolves are a really good team and I like the trade the wolves did for the long term health of the Ant era. I am just worried more this year than normal. I think we are a Rudy injury away from possibly not a playoff team. Even if Ant misses time it gets scary. It's also hard to play balls to the walls defense for 2 plus years and I think they need to do that to be great because I don't know if the offense is going to be humming a lot with still a lot of new piece into the fold.
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The West is sooooo good.

Everything depends on who gets injured... and for how long.

For the Wolves... (1) Edwards, (2) Gobert. Any lengthy absence would be tough to overcome.
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kekgeek wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:39 pm
FNG wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:17 am
Q-is-here wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:13 am Kekgeek, damn, I didn't realize how pessimistic you were until now. A first round exit!? What troubles you about this squad? Or is it just a feeling of doom, something not unusual for Minnesota sports fans. May be you should stop hanging around with Abe so much.
Yeah, Kek seems to be "righter" than many of us here with his takes, so I also have concerns about his relative pessimism. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that we just don't know what Randle is going to bring us...it's still a big mystery.

This is what makes me optimistic though. Only the Wolves and the Celtics had 7 players in ESPN's top 100 list that just came out. With 30 teams in the league, it means that you are equivalent to being a top 3 player on an average team if you make the list...so we have 7 players who are considered the equivalent of a top 3 player! All of our rotation players except NAW made the top 100, and Ant was #10. That's recognition that we are one of the deepest, if not the deepest, rosters in the Association. And that's without including guys like Ingles, Minott, Rob, TJ and Garza.
Completely fair. I want to say I think the Wolves are a very good team, I am a big fan of Ant, Jaden, Rudy and the surrounding pieces. I think the wolves win 49 games this year because they were relatively healthy last year and I think they take a minor step back there and also I think they are going to rest people more.

My Concerns
- I think we added a big piece in Randle who has never been my favorite player ever. I think he is super talented but I think his effort really goes in and out based on how he is feeling that day. We need 5 locked in players defensively to make this defense continuing to be elite. Ant can get lost off ball and so can Randle. I think on ball we will still be good but I just worry about his effort level a lot. To go along with that I think the first year playing with Rudy will always be clunky, it took Mike a year in Utah to get used to playing with Rudy. Now Randle has some experience playing with a no spacing big in Mitchell Robinson but I do think there is going to be a learning curve there.

-I think we are a Rudy injury away from the year going really south quick. Rudy is the hub that makes this defense special. If Rudy would of missed time last year I think Kat could fill in and we still would of been a solid defense. Now I don't think we have that luxury. I have documented for years the struggles the wolves have had having Naz play center defensively, when Randle had to play small ball center for the Knicks last year the Knicks were in the 18th percentile defensively so really really bad. Then our other option at center is Garza who I like but he can't play center in meaningful minutes. We are one Rudy injury away from being a bad defensive team I hate to say.

-I am not as sold on our depth as others are, I think Donte is a stud, I like Naz but don't love him as much as others do and think he is pretty overrated (Good player still), I think Dilly is really going to struggle this year (Like him long term), I am really worried about NAW, he is going to be asked to play more PG and his shot has been a rollercoaster mostly going down since the playoffs, I am worried that last year could of just been a spike year. Ingles age is a questionmark and I have loved what Minnott has brought but I need to see it in real NBA games. I just don't think we have this elite depth that everyone says we do. I don't think its bad but I don't think its this unbelievable strength that they have.

- Finally I think the west got better, Suns better, Grizzlies better, people say the nuggets are worse but I am not sure KCP really that huge of a difference. I just think small things change the narrative of the season. What would we have said if we didn't come back down 20 to the nuggets in game 7. That would of been 4 blow out losses. I just think the margin of error is not that big between team 1 and team 6 in the west and I don't think the wolves are going to get a top 2 seed because they are going to have some injuries and play the rest game this year. Also we are the hunted now not the huntee.

-Also Mike was health last year for the first time in a long time. Will that continue we don't have natural PG backing him up this year in Morris and Jmac. An already clunky offesne could get massively clunky if it is 48 minutes without a true PG for the wolves. Look at the suns last year that is what the wolves could look like. A talent squad with issues runny a functioning offense.

- Once again I think the Wolves are a really good team and I like the trade the wolves did for the long term health of the Ant era. I am just worried more this year than normal. I think we are a Rudy injury away from possibly not a playoff team. Even if Ant misses time it gets scary. It's also hard to play balls to the walls defense for 2 plus years and I think they need to do that to be great because I don't know if the offense is going to be humming a lot with still a lot of new piece into the fold.
Well thought out Kek. You make a good case for those that are more bearish on the season.
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Q-is-here wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:03 pm
kekgeek wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:39 pm
FNG wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:17 am

Yeah, Kek seems to be "righter" than many of us here with his takes, so I also have concerns about his relative pessimism. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that we just don't know what Randle is going to bring us...it's still a big mystery.

This is what makes me optimistic though. Only the Wolves and the Celtics had 7 players in ESPN's top 100 list that just came out. With 30 teams in the league, it means that you are equivalent to being a top 3 player on an average team if you make the list...so we have 7 players who are considered the equivalent of a top 3 player! All of our rotation players except NAW made the top 100, and Ant was #10. That's recognition that we are one of the deepest, if not the deepest, rosters in the Association. And that's without including guys like Ingles, Minott, Rob, TJ and Garza.
Completely fair. I want to say I think the Wolves are a very good team, I am a big fan of Ant, Jaden, Rudy and the surrounding pieces. I think the wolves win 49 games this year because they were relatively healthy last year and I think they take a minor step back there and also I think they are going to rest people more.

My Concerns
- I think we added a big piece in Randle who has never been my favorite player ever. I think he is super talented but I think his effort really goes in and out based on how he is feeling that day. We need 5 locked in players defensively to make this defense continuing to be elite. Ant can get lost off ball and so can Randle. I think on ball we will still be good but I just worry about his effort level a lot. To go along with that I think the first year playing with Rudy will always be clunky, it took Mike a year in Utah to get used to playing with Rudy. Now Randle has some experience playing with a no spacing big in Mitchell Robinson but I do think there is going to be a learning curve there.

-I think we are a Rudy injury away from the year going really south quick. Rudy is the hub that makes this defense special. If Rudy would of missed time last year I think Kat could fill in and we still would of been a solid defense. Now I don't think we have that luxury. I have documented for years the struggles the wolves have had having Naz play center defensively, when Randle had to play small ball center for the Knicks last year the Knicks were in the 18th percentile defensively so really really bad. Then our other option at center is Garza who I like but he can't play center in meaningful minutes. We are one Rudy injury away from being a bad defensive team I hate to say.

-I am not as sold on our depth as others are, I think Donte is a stud, I like Naz but don't love him as much as others do and think he is pretty overrated (Good player still), I think Dilly is really going to struggle this year (Like him long term), I am really worried about NAW, he is going to be asked to play more PG and his shot has been a rollercoaster mostly going down since the playoffs, I am worried that last year could of just been a spike year. Ingles age is a questionmark and I have loved what Minnott has brought but I need to see it in real NBA games. I just don't think we have this elite depth that everyone says we do. I don't think its bad but I don't think its this unbelievable strength that they have.

- Finally I think the west got better, Suns better, Grizzlies better, people say the nuggets are worse but I am not sure KCP really that huge of a difference. I just think small things change the narrative of the season. What would we have said if we didn't come back down 20 to the nuggets in game 7. That would of been 4 blow out losses. I just think the margin of error is not that big between team 1 and team 6 in the west and I don't think the wolves are going to get a top 2 seed because they are going to have some injuries and play the rest game this year. Also we are the hunted now not the huntee.

-Also Mike was health last year for the first time in a long time. Will that continue we don't have natural PG backing him up this year in Morris and Jmac. An already clunky offesne could get massively clunky if it is 48 minutes without a true PG for the wolves. Look at the suns last year that is what the wolves could look like. A talent squad with issues runny a functioning offense.

- Once again I think the Wolves are a really good team and I like the trade the wolves did for the long term health of the Ant era. I am just worried more this year than normal. I think we are a Rudy injury away from possibly not a playoff team. Even if Ant misses time it gets scary. It's also hard to play balls to the walls defense for 2 plus years and I think they need to do that to be great because I don't know if the offense is going to be humming a lot with still a lot of new piece into the fold.
Well thought out Kek. You make a good case for those that are more bearish on the season.
I think the wolves are a really good team with all that said. One last point last year everyone was paid outside of slow mo and slow mo value is not putting the ball in the hoop. So everyone had one goal and that is to win.

This year. Naz, Naw, Randle and Rudy all looking for a new contract next year. Money always talks. Going to be thinking about how that effects the team also
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FNG wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:19 am
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:14 pm Paging Mr. Lipoli
I just talked with him. He's still crunching numbers and comparing standing reaches, but he promises to get his pick in before Christmas ;) .
Hahahahahaha, he's been very quiet, I hope he's joining us for the season.
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FNG wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:12 am
ItsJustSoSab wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:17 pm52 wins
I'm happy to share the title with you this season, Sab...very good prediction.
I have to regain my title. I was one off another year or two. The title alludes me!
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FNG wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:19 am
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:14 pm Paging Mr. Lipoli
I just talked with him. He's still crunching numbers and comparing standing reaches, but he promises to get his pick in before Christmas ;) .
Was Lip KATs Dad? Super Sus-

-Leaves board right after KAT traded
-Said he had season tickets "right in front" of KATs Dad
-Said "family member" died from Covid
-Routinely defended KAT for the most part? I think so....

Thoughts? Too much smoke.
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Wolves on pace for 56 wins. Super early still.
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Wolvesfan21 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:04 am
FNG wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:19 am
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:14 pm Paging Mr. Lipoli
I just talked with him. He's still crunching numbers and comparing standing reaches, but he promises to get his pick in before Christmas ;) .
Was Lip KATs Dad? Super Sus-

-Leaves board right after KAT traded
-Said he had season tickets "right in front" of KATs Dad
-Said "family member" died from Covid
-Routinely defended KAT for the most part? I think so....

Thoughts? Too much smoke.
Love the intrigue, WF, and you present an interesting case!

But as the only poster here who has actually met Lip (my gal and I ran into him and his lovely wife in Vegas during the "Naz Reid" Summer League"), I can verify that he is not KAT's dad! He's a knowledgeable and true Wolves fan who has been a valuable member of this board, and he posted just 5 days ago. I suspect he's probably busy with his job, and will be more active soon.
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FNG wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:57 am
Wolvesfan21 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:04 am
FNG wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:19 am

I just talked with him. He's still crunching numbers and comparing standing reaches, but he promises to get his pick in before Christmas ;) .
Was Lip KATs Dad? Super Sus-

-Leaves board right after KAT traded
-Said he had season tickets "right in front" of KATs Dad
-Said "family member" died from Covid
-Routinely defended KAT for the most part? I think so....

Thoughts? Too much smoke.
Love the intrigue, WF, and you present an interesting case!

But as the only poster here who has actually met Lip (my gal and I ran into him and his lovely wife in Vegas during the "Naz Reid" Summer League"), I can verify that he is not KAT's dad! He's a knowledgeable and true Wolves fan who has been a valuable member of this board, and he posted just 5 days ago. I suspect he's probably busy with his job, and will be more active soon.
Are you KATs Dads friend? :lol:

I figured someone maybe met Lip at some point. I believe you. The coincidences seemed really odd to me though. Maybe you are KATs Dads friend. lol
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