Volans19 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:20 am
The Lakers just got a top 5 player in the league who is 25 for a 32 year old injury waiting to happen and one first rounder. How is this the best deal the Mavs could have got?
I'm putting my tinfoil hat on
Well...Luka turns 26 at the end of the month. AD turns 32 in March. Luka is 6 years younger.
Luka isn't exactly an iron man and can't stay in shape. He hasn't played more than 70 games since his rookie year.
Max Christie might be getting underrated in this transaction...you didn't even mention him.
It's a win now deal. AD is a guy averaging 25-11 and at times has been an elite defender. What do you think the price would be for AD if he was on the market to he traded?
I think it's pretty clear there was some issues with Luka or a team simply doesn't trade him.
I'm not saying it's a deal I would do or it was the right deal but I'm not so sure its as unconscionable as some people are saying.
To Volans point, the issue isn't as much that Dallas traded Luka (which, yes, is somewhat shocking in its own right). The issue is what they got in return. I mean, seriously!?! AD is obviously a great player, but he's starting the tail end of his career and is probably as injury-prone as Luka. And they already have an outstanding defensive Center in Dereck Lively II, who is still super young and will probably keep getting better. And all they could get was a 1st rounder kicked in! Absurd!
So what I can't believe is that there wasn't a better deal available. Remember that even though this directly benefits the Lakers, if it leads to more overall views and clicks for the NBA, ALL franchises benefit in terms of appreciating values.
LeBron wasn't happy with AD and AD wasn't happy with the Lakers, so you trade for another malcontent that you hope will listen to the staff.
I am more than happy to have the Lakers and Mavs fall apart with this trade, IF Silver allows it to go through.
Volans19 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:20 am
The Lakers just got a top 5 player in the league who is 25 for a 32 year old injury waiting to happen and one first rounder. How is this the best deal the Mavs could have got?
I'm putting my tinfoil hat on
Well...Luka turns 26 at the end of the month. AD turns 32 in March. Luka is 6 years younger.
Luka isn't exactly an iron man and can't stay in shape. He hasn't played more than 70 games since his rookie year.
Max Christie might be getting underrated in this transaction...you didn't even mention him.
It's a win now deal. AD is a guy averaging 25-11 and at times has been an elite defender. What do you think the price would be for AD if he was on the market to he traded?
I think it's pretty clear there was some issues with Luka or a team simply doesn't trade him.
I'm not saying it's a deal I would do or it was the right deal but I'm not so sure its as unconscionable as some people are saying.
To Volans point, the issue isn't as much that Dallas traded Luka (which, yes, is somewhat shocking in its own right). The issue is what they got in return. I mean, seriously!?! AD is obviously a great player, but he's starting the tail end of his career and is probably as injury-prone as Luka. And they already have an outstanding defensive Center in Dereck Lively II, who is still super young and will probably keep getting better. And all they could get was a 1st rounder kicked in! Absurd!
So what I can't believe is that there wasn't a better deal available. Remember that even though this directly benefits the Lakers, if it leads to more overall views and clicks for the NBA, ALL franchises benefit in terms of appreciating values.
Color me suspicious as well!
Another person that doesn't even mention Max Christie as part of the trade.
The Mavs clearly didn't want to rebuild and that makes sense based on their roster. AD is pretty valuable player. In 2024 he was first team defense and 2nd team all NBA and he has been very good this season as well. Were the Mavs supposed to trade Luka for basically a bunch of draft picks? AD can play either C or PF and having too many of those seems like a good problem to have. Is the goal to try and win games or is it to win the most draft picks and supposed "value" in the deal?
Again I ask the question if a team was gonna trade for AD what do you think the price was gonna be?
Volans19 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:20 am
The Lakers just got a top 5 player in the league who is 25 for a 32 year old injury waiting to happen and one first rounder. How is this the best deal the Mavs could have got?
I'm putting my tinfoil hat on
Well...Luka turns 26 at the end of the month. AD turns 32 in March. Luka is 6 years younger.
Luka isn't exactly an iron man and can't stay in shape. He hasn't played more than 70 games since his rookie year.
Max Christie might be getting underrated in this transaction...you didn't even mention him.
It's a win now deal. AD is a guy averaging 25-11 and at times has been an elite defender. What do you think the price would be for AD if he was on the market to he traded?
I think it's pretty clear there was some issues with Luka or a team simply doesn't trade him.
I'm not saying it's a deal I would do or it was the right deal but I'm not so sure its as unconscionable as some people are saying.
To Volans point, the issue isn't as much that Dallas traded Luka (which, yes, is somewhat shocking in its own right). The issue is what they got in return. I mean, seriously!?! AD is obviously a great player, but he's starting the tail end of his career and is probably as injury-prone as Luka. And they already have an outstanding defensive Center in Dereck Lively II, who is still super young and will probably keep getting better. And all they could get was a 1st rounder kicked in! Absurd!
So what I can't believe is that there wasn't a better deal available. Remember that even though this directly benefits the Lakers, if it leads to more overall views and clicks for the NBA, ALL franchises benefit in terms of appreciating values.
Color me suspicious as well!
There is a report that the Mavs called another team last week for a star for star swap and the other team said no.
Legit the only teams I can think that would say no are the Wolves (Ant), Spurs (Wemby), Bucks (Giannis), nuggets (Jokic), Celtics (Tatum), Thunder (SGA) and maybe the Magic (Banchero)
Well...Luka turns 26 at the end of the month. AD turns 32 in March. Luka is 6 years younger.
Luka isn't exactly an iron man and can't stay in shape. He hasn't played more than 70 games since his rookie year.
Max Christie might be getting underrated in this transaction...you didn't even mention him.
It's a win now deal. AD is a guy averaging 25-11 and at times has been an elite defender. What do you think the price would be for AD if he was on the market to he traded?
I think it's pretty clear there was some issues with Luka or a team simply doesn't trade him.
I'm not saying it's a deal I would do or it was the right deal but I'm not so sure its as unconscionable as some people are saying.
To Volans point, the issue isn't as much that Dallas traded Luka (which, yes, is somewhat shocking in its own right). The issue is what they got in return. I mean, seriously!?! AD is obviously a great player, but he's starting the tail end of his career and is probably as injury-prone as Luka. And they already have an outstanding defensive Center in Dereck Lively II, who is still super young and will probably keep getting better. And all they could get was a 1st rounder kicked in! Absurd!
So what I can't believe is that there wasn't a better deal available. Remember that even though this directly benefits the Lakers, if it leads to more overall views and clicks for the NBA, ALL franchises benefit in terms of appreciating values.
Color me suspicious as well!
Another person that doesn't even mention Max Christie as part of the trade.
The Mavs clearly didn't want to rebuild and that makes sense based on their roster. AD is pretty valuable player. In 2024 he was first team defense and 2nd team all NBA and he has been very good this season as well. Were the Mavs supposed to trade Luka for basically a bunch of draft picks? AD can play either C or PF and having too many of those seems like a good problem to have. Is the goal to try and win games or is it to win the most draft picks and supposed "value" in the deal?
Again I ask the question if a team was gonna trade for AD what do you think the price was gonna be?
I mean yeah Max Christie might be decent I'm not familiar with his game, but he was a second round pick not like he has that top tier lottery potential.
I'm not concerned about the price for AD I'm concerned about the price of Luka. Yeah he has had injury concerns but he is one of the most talented basketball players of the modern day. Having 6 years of runway with Doncic means you have a high probability of success for 6 years, I wouldn't say the same for AD.
The biggest market in the league essentially getting a reset for AD and a future first insane. The Lakers will always be a team that can round out the edges of the roster for less than most (especially when they don't have Lebron as their defacto gm).
Maybe this trade will make more sense when the deadline passes but I believe the Mavs made an all time blunder here
The league has it's hands all over this deal. If you were going to trade Luka, everyone should know about it so you can maximize the return. The league has been feeding the Lakers for 55 years, and this insures their relevance for another 10 years. Once again the league shows they want profits above competition. 50% Basketball and 50% WWF.
Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 3:37 pm
The league has it's hands all over this deal. If you were going to trade Luka, everyone should know about it so you can maximize the return. The league has been feeding the Lakers for 55 years, and this insures their relevance for another 10 years. Once again the league shows they want profits above competition. 50% Basketball and 50% WWF.
And yet I can see the NBA voiding the trade.
From the rumors, the Mavs called the Nuggets about trading Doncic for anyone not the Joker to put those 2 together. The Nuggets said no. Who else has a superstar that could help the Mavs win this year that is willing to trade for him? I think the Heat said No fucking way to a Butler for Doncic trade. Why trade one headache for another?
Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 3:37 pm
The league has it's hands all over this deal. If you were going to trade Luka, everyone should know about it so you can maximize the return. The league has been feeding the Lakers for 55 years, and this insures their relevance for another 10 years. Once again the league shows they want profits above competition. 50% Basketball and 50% WWF.
And yet I can see the NBA voiding the trade.
From the rumors, the Mavs called the Nuggets about trading Doncic for anyone not the Joker to put those 2 together. The Nuggets said no. Who else has a superstar that could help the Mavs win this year that is willing to trade for him? I think the Heat said No fucking way to a Butler for Doncic trade. Why trade one headache for another?
The league is loving this trade. They want Celtics-Lakers, not Cavs-Thunder.
