Individual Stat Tracker - Playoffs

[Q-is-here]

Thought I'd take stock now that it's been 7 games and we have some critical mass in terms of minutes. I'm just using PER, W/S 48, and Net Rating.

Player - PER/WS48/Net Rating:
Ant - 22.1/.205/ +11.1
Julius - 19.9/.198/+8.1
Jaden - 18.4/.200/+14.6
Rudy - 13.9/.134/+6.2
DDV - 7.6/.003/+2.1
Naz - 16.5/.166/+8.6
Conley - 9.0/.076/+1.9
NAW - 6.5/.002/+3.1

- Jaden and Julius have both risen to the occasion and have separated themselves from Rudy, who last year was probably our 2nd or 3rd most impactful playoff performer.

- Keep in mind these are the numbers AFTER last night's breakout by NAW and he and DDV still look pretty anemic here. We can't expect much more out of Conley but these other two guys are in the prime of their career. We really need them to step up.

- If we keep Naz's role in perspective - he is coming off the bench after all - and forget about whatever his next contract might look like and whether he can be a regular starter, he is giving us everything we could expect from a former 6th man of the year.

- Ant has not looked himself for a few games and has had just an awful time finishing around the basket and is only shooting 33% from 3. But, he's averaging 9 rebounds, over 5 assists, and only 1.4 TO per game. So he is contributing in other ways despite his unsteady performance as an alpha scorer.

- That bring us to Julius, who I think benefits as much as anyone from all the attention Ant draws. This can't be underestimated when folks compare his playoff performance now versus with the Knicks. He simply isn't drawing the same attention as he was back when he played the role of #1 guy. Ant is taking that load off him and in turn he is helping pick up the slack with Ant laboring to score.

[FNG]

Thanks, Q. Here are my positive takeaways. Ant shows up much better in these stats compared to the regular season, and despite 2 subpar games, "Playoff Ant" does sees to be a real thing. Jaden's stats are not surprising to me...he may be our best overall player in the 7 games. And finally, Ju is shaking off the image of not being a good performer in the playoffs.

On the negative side, Rudy and Mike's playoff stats are far below how they ranked in the team during the season...same with NAW. We're going to need more from all of them, as well as better shooting from Donte.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Edwards' PER and WS/48 are significantly higher in the postseason than regular season.

Doesn't really "feel" like it yet though.




[Note: The A/TO ratio helps a lot here.]

[Coolbreeze44]

Shaq had some interesting comments about Ant after the game. To paraphrase he basically asked if Ant is going to be a superstar or not. He said you expect the best players in the game to separate in the playoffs and show their greatness. He wasn't calling him out for poor play, just asking why he hasn't been great. I think he's been really good throughout with a couple great games sprinkled in. He's being defended well in this series, but I want to see him ascend to the next level a la Dwade and Kobe.

[Q-is-here]

Shaq had some interesting comments about Ant after the game. To paraphrase he basically asked if Ant is going to be a superstar or not. He said you expect the best players in the game to separate in the playoffs and show their greatness. He wasn't calling him out for poor play, just asking why he hasn't been great. I think he's been really good throughout with a couple great games sprinkled in. He's being defended well in this series, but I want to see him ascend to the next level a la Dwade and Kobe.

Here is how Ant compares to the other #1 options on remaining playoff teams using the same stats from above. I added their age in parenthesis:

Ant (23) - 22.1/.205/ +11.1
Curry (37) - 19.8/.135/+3.7
Brunson (28) - 19.9/.138/+1.9
Halliburton (25) - 22.3/.210/+9.0
Tatum (27) - 22.5/.206/+13.4
Jokic (30) - 25.0/.164/+.1
SGA (26) - 26.1/.283/+18.9
Mitchell (28) - 28.1/.254/+9.8

He's holding up pretty well as the youngest lead dog still going in the playoffs. In terms of pure box score production, he's right in the middle. In terms of winning, he's in the upper half. SGA and Mitchell have been incredible and I think Jokic would be even better if not for that last beatdown at the hands of OKC.

I personally think Ant has been playing hurt since the Lakers series, but I agree he hasn't "looked" like a superstar over the past few games. Still, the numbers suggest he's doing quite well all things considered.

[FNG]

Shaq had some interesting comments about Ant after the game. To paraphrase he basically asked if Ant is going to be a superstar or not. He said you expect the best players in the game to separate in the playoffs and show their greatness. He wasn't calling him out for poor play, just asking why he hasn't been great. I think he's been really good throughout with a couple great games sprinkled in. He's being defended well in this series, but I want to see him ascend to the next level a la Dwade and Kobe.

Here is how Ant compares to the other #1 options on remaining playoff teams using the same stats from above. I added their age in parenthesis:

Ant (23) - 22.1/.205/ +11.1
Curry (37) - 19.8/.135/+3.7
Brunson (28) - 19.9/.138/+1.9
Halliburton (25) - 22.3/.210/+9.0
Tatum (27) - 22.5/.206/+13.4
Jokic (30) - 25.0/.164/+.1
SGA (26) - 26.1/.283/+18.9
Mitchell (28) - 28.1/.254/+9.8

He's holding up pretty well as the youngest lead dog still going in the playoffs. In terms of pure box score production, he's right in the middle. In terms of winning, he's in the upper half. SGA and Mitchell have been incredible and I think Jokic would be even better if not for that last beatdown at the hands of OKC.

I personally think Ant has been playing hurt since the Lakers series, but I agree he hasn't "looked" like a superstar over the past few games. Still, the numbers suggest he's doing quite well all things considered.

Yep, he measures up really well against other #1's in the playoffs this season. I did this a couple times during the season and pointed out how Ant did not measure up well. But if I had a choice between a star putting up great advanced stats in the regular season or during the playoffs, the clear choice would be playoffs. Now even better would be to have Ant lead his team in advanced stats during the regular season too as some of these other guys do, but maybe that is coming.

[Monster]

Thought I'd take stock now that it's been 7 games and we have some critical mass in terms of minutes. I'm just using PER, W/S 48, and Net Rating.

Player - PER/WS48/Net Rating:
Ant - 22.1/.205/ +11.1
Julius - 19.9/.198/+8.1
Jaden - 18.4/.200/+14.6
Rudy - 13.9/.134/+6.2
DDV - 7.6/.003/+2.1
Naz - 16.5/.166/+8.6
Conley - 9.0/.076/+1.9
NAW - 6.5/.002/+3.1

- Jaden and Julius have both risen to the occasion and have separated themselves from Rudy, who last year was probably our 2nd or 3rd most impactful playoff performer.

- Keep in mind these are the numbers AFTER last night's breakout by NAW and he and DDV still look pretty anemic here. We can't expect much more out of Conley but these other two guys are in the prime of their career. We really need them to step up.

- If we keep Naz's role in perspective - he is coming off the bench after all - and forget about whatever his next contract might look like and whether he can be a regular starter, he is giving us everything we could expect from a former 6th man of the year.

- Ant has not looked himself for a few games and has had just an awful time finishing around the basket and is only shooting 33% from 3. But, he's averaging 9 rebounds, over 5 assists, and only 1.4 TO per game. So he is contributing in other ways despite his unsteady performance as an alpha scorer.

- That bring us to Julius, who I think benefits as much as anyone from all the attention Ant draws. This can't be underestimated when folks compare his playoff performance now versus with the Knicks. He simply isn't drawing the same attention as he was back when he played the role of #1 guy. Ant is taking that load off him and in turn he is helping pick up the slack with Ant laboring to score.

Q yeah if we want to compare Edward's to Randle's first playoffs yes. Looking back at that roster...that REALLY overachieved. There is no question about the talent level he had this year or even the following playoff Knicks team was much better.

The 2nd time he was in the playoffs playing hurt Brunson was putting up some pretty good stats that playoffs. The Knicks as a whole shot pretty poorly from 3 though so maybe you could make an argument that the Wolves have more shooting but that's been far from a strength of the team in the playoffs so far.

I think Randle's success is more about him being healthy and fitting into the group and coaching etc plus some favorable match ups so far. It also helps there isn't really another high usage shot creator/scorer so he gets to do what he does but other players are not just standing around too much waiting for Randle to score. Gobert for all his faults likely has more gravity than the Mitchell Robinson Hartrnstien combo. It also helps he gets to at times share the floor with Naz Reid who gives him space to operate because of his shooting and also a target to pass too. I don't think the Knicks had anyone that helped Randle on the offensive end as much as Naz does although his defense isn't maybe as good as the Knicks center combo. The GS series I'm not sure having a traditional rim protector is going to be a huge key somewhat like the Lakers series.

[Q-is-here]

Updated through 10 Playoff Games:

Player - PER/WS48/Net Rating:
Ant - 21.9/.195/ +11.0
Julius - 20.4/.193/+8.8
Jaden - 16.0/.170/+12.7
Rudy - 15.6/.172/+9.5
DDV - 8.5/.031/-1.6
Naz - 14.4/.134/+5.8
Conley - 11.6/.123/+9.2
NAW - 6.9/.006/+1.3


- Feels like our starters are doing their part - look at their net ratings. The bench has simply not been good enough and that's supposed to be one of our strengths! Naz at times has looked completely inept. Only a few big (and important) scoring flourishes has kept his overall stats in decent territory. DDV started to come around in the Golden State series. We REALLY need NAW in the next series because of the Jamal Murray or SGA matchups. And he has to give us something on offense.

- Julius Randle is giving us more than most other team's #2 options in the playoffs. He's almost become a co-number-one option along with Ant. What an incredible story. And here I wanted us to immediately flip him after the KAT trade!

- Jaden has established himself as our clear cut #3 guy, displacing Rudy. Has the best net rating on the team right now.

[FNG]

Thanks for this, Q...very helpful.

Terrific to see Ant at the top the board in almost every category...a potential championship team needs its alpha dog to play like it, and for the most part, Ant is. I think a lot of us think he still has another gear too.

And what a Robin Ju has been...his stats are right there with Ant's. Even better, he is totally satisfied with his role...very little NBA ego.

Mike was not looking very good after 7 games, but his numbers have skyrocketed in the past three. My God, look at the jump in his net rating! Dane Moore catalogues his defense in his X feed, and it's truly remarkable what he has done at his age on defense the past three games. Combine that with hitting a few open threes, and we have the Mike we need to keep this season going. The way Rudy flustered Butler in the paint is also evident in his improved numbers.