Bored Silly - How About The Draft?!?

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Re: Bored Silly - How About The Draft?!?

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Monster wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 3:48 pm
Q-is-here wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 2:46 pm I have no clue who to take or who any of these people are! That's a good thing because I used to be a draftnik as a byproduct of the Wolves being a perennial lottery team....would watch a lot of college ball and spend many hours on Draft Express (Jonathan Givony's draft site until he sold out to ESPN, sigh).

But now that the Wolves have been good for a few years, it just isn't worth the time for me to investigate and track. And Finch doesn't even play them until Year 2 or 3 usually!

In Connelly we trust! (and rapsuperstar31!).
I wish I watched more college ball but I don't even get around to watching all the Wolves games which I am more invested in.

The other thing is that it's become apparent to me that there really is opportunities up and down the draft board to get talent. Connelly isn't just gonna hang out and pick at whatever spot you really have no idea where the Wolves will be picking with him running things. In general I've tried to dial back on speculation for sports and see what comes and that definitely includes the draft especially the NFL draft. For the NBA draft I still like finding a few guys I really like and go from there. This year the Wolves could be in a spot to select a pretty wide swath of draft selections. Could they move up from 17? Move back? Move up from 31? Move back in the 2nd? Who the fuck knows?! Thats kinda fun! Lol
I also wouldn't be surprised if he makes a move for future draft capital as the cupboard is kinda bare...
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I've listened to a few Sam Vecenie podcasts where he does mock drafts. It's interesting because he hasnt really considered bigs for the Wolves and has put Nique Clifford in our spot. 6'6" 2 way wing. Supposedly a better pull up shooter vs off the catch. I think he is a 4 year guy, which we know isn't a deal breaker for the Wolves.

Wolves are in a really nice spot with the 2 picks this year and having our own next year as well assuming it's not swapped with Utah.
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Re: Bored Silly - How About The Draft?!?

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60WinTim wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 4:20 pm
Monster wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 3:48 pm
Q-is-here wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 2:46 pm I have no clue who to take or who any of these people are! That's a good thing because I used to be a draftnik as a byproduct of the Wolves being a perennial lottery team....would watch a lot of college ball and spend many hours on Draft Express (Jonathan Givony's draft site until he sold out to ESPN, sigh).

But now that the Wolves have been good for a few years, it just isn't worth the time for me to investigate and track. And Finch doesn't even play them until Year 2 or 3 usually!

In Connelly we trust! (and rapsuperstar31!).
I wish I watched more college ball but I don't even get around to watching all the Wolves games which I am more invested in.

The other thing is that it's become apparent to me that there really is opportunities up and down the draft board to get talent. Connelly isn't just gonna hang out and pick at whatever spot you really have no idea where the Wolves will be picking with him running things. In general I've tried to dial back on speculation for sports and see what comes and that definitely includes the draft especially the NFL draft. For the NBA draft I still like finding a few guys I really like and go from there. This year the Wolves could be in a spot to select a pretty wide swath of draft selections. Could they move up from 17? Move back? Move up from 31? Move back in the 2nd? Who the fuck knows?! Thats kinda fun! Lol
I also wouldn't be surprised if he makes a move for future draft capital as the cupboard is kinda bare...
That might make sense, especially since we have three pretty bright prospects that I believe are NBA ready (and proved it to varying degrees) in Shannon, Clark, and Dillingham. Adding two potentially "ready-now" rookies will only make the logjam worse. May be we keep one of our picks and the other one gets swapped for a pick or two in future years where we don't have our own pick.
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Re: Bored Silly - How About The Draft?!?

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Q-is-here wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 10:19 pm
60WinTim wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 4:20 pm
Monster wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 3:48 pm

I wish I watched more college ball but I don't even get around to watching all the Wolves games which I am more invested in.

The other thing is that it's become apparent to me that there really is opportunities up and down the draft board to get talent. Connelly isn't just gonna hang out and pick at whatever spot you really have no idea where the Wolves will be picking with him running things. In general I've tried to dial back on speculation for sports and see what comes and that definitely includes the draft especially the NFL draft. For the NBA draft I still like finding a few guys I really like and go from there. This year the Wolves could be in a spot to select a pretty wide swath of draft selections. Could they move up from 17? Move back? Move up from 31? Move back in the 2nd? Who the fuck knows?! Thats kinda fun! Lol
I also wouldn't be surprised if he makes a move for future draft capital as the cupboard is kinda bare...
That might make sense, especially since we have three pretty bright prospects that I believe are NBA ready (and proved it to varying degrees) in Shannon, Clark, and Dillingham. Adding two potentially "ready-now" rookies will only make the logjam worse. May be we keep one of our picks and the other one gets swapped for a pick or two in future years where we don't have our own pick.
That’s my thinking, Q. As much as I love the NBA draft and like to see the Wolves make picks, I think the best course is probably trading out for future picks. I’d like to see more of TSJ, Clark and Dilly next season. And don’t forget Miller. We have a lot of young talent that needs to be tested. We have no first or second round picks in 2027 likely no first round pick in 2029 and no first rounder in 2031. I’d like to see us swap both of our picks for some picks in 2027 and 2029.
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Phenom wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 9:49 pm I've listened to a few Sam Vecenie podcasts where he does mock drafts. It's interesting because he hasnt really considered bigs for the Wolves and has put Nique Clifford in our spot. 6'6" 2 way wing. Supposedly a better pull up shooter vs off the catch. I think he is a 4 year guy, which we know isn't a deal breaker for the Wolves.

Wolves are in a really nice spot with the 2 picks this year and having our own next year as well assuming it's not swapped with Utah.
The consensus mock at nbadraft.net also has Cliiford going to the Wolves. Seems like a Shannon clone to me, but maybe they are looking for depth at the wing if NAW is gone. His college coach of course is coming to town to coach the Gophers, so there's a connection there.

But ultimately I agree with Tim, Q and Lip. We already have two many "possible ready" young players who aren't seeing the court...where's the room for more? Current picks always have more value then future picks, so I think we could get a terrific return swapping our two 2025 picks for future considerations. Not an exciting move and it wouldn't be popular with the typical rube fan, but it makes sense to me.
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