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Why has Holmgren been killing us? Can't Rudy guard him with Ju on Hartenstein?
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thedoper wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:27 pm
WildWolf2813 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:24 pm Jalen Williams has been criticized by a lot of people for not being the most reliable 2nd option, but he's showing out and he's showing us one of the two things we desperately need in the future

a legit 2nd option and a long term successor to Rudy.

If Dillingham isn't the former, then that becomes very difficult to get.

The latter is within reach using this draft.
Ive been saying all year we should have taken our lumps to develop Dillingham. If its not him then absolutely yes we need another player who can get buckets off the dribble. 1st drive and kick option is always Ant, Mikes too old.
Yeah, I agree with this, because Ant is the Big One and he's not good enough to carry a team alone. We need another star and a volume shooter who turns the ball over a lot and plays weak defense is not a second star. Rudy is too one dimensional to be that star. KAT is better than anyone not named Ant. Want to see Randle off the team and we need to give Jaden more shots. Naz is nothing more than a bench scorer and we don't need to waste big money on that. TC has shit the bed. He inherited Ant, Jaden, KAT, Naz and all our first round picks and a lot of capspace and he squandered our assets. TC and Finch can go! They are Wolves terrorists.
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Coolbreeze44 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 pm Why has Holmgren been killing us? Can't Rudy guard him with Ju on Hartenstein?
I think they want to have Rudy next to the hoop and that goes away guarding Chet. Also Chet has done the majority of his damage this series when Rudy sits.

I was super mad at Randle tonight, I’m ok if you have a bad game, it happens but his effort on defense and rebounding was pathetic
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I turned the game off at half. Thought I'd watch some paint dry instead and it was more entertaining.
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KG4Ever wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:55 pm
thedoper wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:27 pm
WildWolf2813 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:24 pm Jalen Williams has been criticized by a lot of people for not being the most reliable 2nd option, but he's showing out and he's showing us one of the two things we desperately need in the future

a legit 2nd option and a long term successor to Rudy.

If Dillingham isn't the former, then that becomes very difficult to get.

The latter is within reach using this draft.
Ive been saying all year we should have taken our lumps to develop Dillingham. If its not him then absolutely yes we need another player who can get buckets off the dribble. 1st drive and kick option is always Ant, Mikes too old.
Yeah, I agree with this, because Ant is the Big One and he's not good enough to carry a team alone. We need another star and a volume shooter who turns the ball over a lot and plays weak defense is not a second star. Rudy is too one dimensional to be that star. KAT is better than anyone not named Ant. Want to see Randle off the team and we need to give Jaden more shots. Naz is nothing more than a bench scorer and we don't need to waste big money on that. TC has shit the bed. He inherited Ant, Jaden, KAT, Naz and all our first round picks and a lot of capspace and he squandered our assets. TC and Finch can go! They are Wolves terrorists.
KAT's a shitty one dimensional player who makes 60 million. The fact that we didn't have to include 4 firsts and Ant is a miracle. NY fans are now seeing why we were so happy to get rid of him. He'd be a fine player off the bench making 12 million.
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Wolvesfan21 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:59 pm
KG4Ever wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:55 pm
thedoper wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:27 pm

Ive been saying all year we should have taken our lumps to develop Dillingham. If its not him then absolutely yes we need another player who can get buckets off the dribble. 1st drive and kick option is always Ant, Mikes too old.
Yeah, I agree with this, because Ant is the Big One and he's not good enough to carry a team alone. We need another star and a volume shooter who turns the ball over a lot and plays weak defense is not a second star. Rudy is too one dimensional to be that star. KAT is better than anyone not named Ant. Want to see Randle off the team and we need to give Jaden more shots. Naz is nothing more than a bench scorer and we don't need to waste big money on that. TC has shit the bed. He inherited Ant, Jaden, KAT, Naz and all our first round picks and a lot of capspace and he squandered our assets. TC and Finch can go! They are Wolves terrorists.

KAT's a shitty one dimensional player who makes 60 million. The fact that we didn't have to include 4 firsts and Ant is a miracle. NY fans are now seeing why we were so happy to get rid of him. He'd be a fine player off the bench making 12 million.
We definitely should have given several of the young guys more minutes so we had some idea of what we have going into next season. I myself would have opted for Zach Edey rather than Dillingham who couldn't even get on the floor. It would have allowed us to let Rudy walk or pickup his option. Instead TC bid against himself and lost by paying Rudy about 30 mil too much in his 3 year extension. Nobody was going to pay him the 37 mil/year that we gave him.

WF, you know you lost your argument when your first statement is a blatant lie. KAT doesn't break the 50 mil plateau this season. He doesn't break the 60 mil until the final year of his 4 year deal.

Rudy wasn't worth anywhere close to the contract he had when we traded for him giving up way too much. The extension just guaranteed that we won't be able to move him. The bigger problem with the trade was that he hampered our two best offensive players by clogging up the middle. THey could have worked around that if he had better hands and a chance of making a shot other than a dunk. The guy is literally incapable of making a layup. I have never witnessed a player with less touch around the basket.
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At one point this game got out of hand but the Wolves got back in it enough to give hope for the rest of the series.

Naz with a solid bounce back game.

Randle really struggled. I lime that Finch didn't go back to him. They obviously need more from Randle in future games if they have a chance to win any games.

Wolves shot poorly on offense but they in general played well on that end.

Defensively it didn't feel like the Wolves played well enough on that end. Can they find the energy to do more and is there something scheme wise to ramp things up? I can live with SGA getting his but other guys got too many easy looks at times.

Gobert didn't do enough in this game.

NAW had a fantastic game he gave them a shot of getting back in the game.

Donte came to the party a bit but it would be nice to see more.
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Coolbreeze44 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:28 pm OKC only had 6 turnovers and shot 50%. We had 2 steals. Give them credit, they did what we need to do.
Cool, I agree with this take. We didn't shoot that well again (only 28% on threes), but for the most part I think OkC beat us rather than us beating ourselves. We did get poor games from a couple guys who need to step up, but everyone on OkC played well except for a meh game from Wiggins. They are really good, and we're going to have to be much better to have a chance of winning the next two home games. I continue to think though that OkC is far and away the best team of the 4 remaining. They may only lose 2 more games the rest of the playoffs on the way to their chip. But let's see if we can derail them.
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Monster wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:12 am At one point this game got out of hand but the Wolves got back in it enough to give hope for the rest of the series.

Naz with a solid bounce back game.

Randle really struggled. I lime that Finch didn't go back to him. They obviously need more from Randle in future games if they have a chance to win any games.

Wolves shot poorly on offense but they in general played well on that end.

Defensively it didn't feel like the Wolves played well enough on that end. Can they find the energy to do more and is there something scheme wise to ramp things up? I can live with SGA getting his but other guys got too many easy looks at times.

Gobert didn't do enough in this game.

NAW had a fantastic game he gave them a shot of getting back in the game.

Donte came to the party a bit but it would be nice to see more.
I agree with most of this, Monster, but I don't know if I would call Naz's game solid. With his glaring defenses lapses at times, his value is in stretching the defense and hitting threes, and going 0 for 5 beyond the arc really hurt us. I like that you're calling out NAW for his performance...at times he seemed like the only guy out there who was playing like he knew we needed to win this game.
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mjs34 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:50 pm
Wolvesfan21 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:59 pm
KG4Ever wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:55 pm
Yeah, I agree with this, because Ant is the Big One and he's not good enough to carry a team alone. We need another star and a volume shooter who turns the ball over a lot and plays weak defense is not a second star. Rudy is too one dimensional to be that star. KAT is better than anyone not named Ant. Want to see Randle off the team and we need to give Jaden more shots. Naz is nothing more than a bench scorer and we don't need to waste big money on that. TC has shit the bed. He inherited Ant, Jaden, KAT, Naz and all our first round picks and a lot of capspace and he squandered our assets. TC and Finch can go! They are Wolves terrorists.

KAT's a shitty one dimensional player who makes 60 million. The fact that we didn't have to include 4 firsts and Ant is a miracle. NY fans are now seeing why we were so happy to get rid of him. He'd be a fine player off the bench making 12 million.
We definitely should have given several of the young guys more minutes so we had some idea of what we have going into next season. I myself would have opted for Zach Edey rather than Dillingham who couldn't even get on the floor. It would have allowed us to let Rudy walk or pickup his option. Instead TC bid against himself and lost by paying Rudy about 30 mil too much in his 3 year extension. Nobody was going to pay him the 37 mil/year that we gave him.

WF, you know you lost your argument when your first statement is a blatant lie. KAT doesn't break the 50 mil plateau this season. He doesn't break the 60 mil until the final year of his 4 year deal.

Rudy wasn't worth anywhere close to the contract he had when we traded for him giving up way too much. The extension just guaranteed that we won't be able to move him. The bigger problem with the trade was that he hampered our two best offensive players by clogging up the middle. THey could have worked around that if he had better hands and a chance of making a shot other than a dunk. The guy is literally incapable of making a layup. I have never witnessed a player with less touch around the basket.
You don't make any sense. Rudy is a far superior player to KAT, it's not even close.
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