Backup point guard options this summer
Re: Backup point guard options this summer
And on another note, assuming NAZ and Randle return, and we draft two players who will be on the roster, that's 15 spots. Other things would have to happen to make room for a FA...
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Re: Backup point guard options this summer
Pace should change some though hopefully over time. It's just way easier to score for him if the defense is in a little bit of chaos. Especially a great defense like OKC. Don't even give them time to double, get back and get set.FNG wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 6:16 pmI'm on the fence with Rob...his college performance (as well as how highly he was regarded prior to college) makes me think he will be an above average NBA starter. I've also observed some flashes of brilliance in the limited moments he has played. But my optimism is guarded though, because his overall play his rookie year has not been impressive. His injury and limited minutes might likely had a big impact on his rookie year, so I'm deciding to mostly give him a pass on what I observed this season.Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 4:35 pmI'm with you on Dilly, he fills gaps that we struggle with. The ability to slash and play make with an elite handle and quickness. He likely has the best handle and quicks on this entire team. I wonder if he'll become strong enough to be OKish enough on defense and his finishing around the rim is pretty raw against elite NBA defenders also, thats what I've picked up anyways in his limited time.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 2:58 pm
I agree he isn't a PG in the purest, instinctual sense, but I've seen him make some impressive passes in his short stint with the Wolves so far and think he can continue to improve his ability to read the game.
I like him for his dynamism. I like that he has the potential to stroke the 3 and space the floor for Ant AND put the ball on the deck and shift the defense, something Conley can't do anymore (or Tyus Jones for that matter). I like that he plays with pace which I think would fit well with Shannon, who I'm also high on. I like that he has the offensive potential that the opposing team has to game plan for both him and Ant.
But whether he can deliver all of that with efficiency while not giving up too much on defense is pure speculation at this point.
He's still so young though that it's just a hunch on anyones part if his positves will ultimately outweigh the possible future negatives. My hunch is that in 2-3 years they will. I can see him paired up with Ant and TJ on the break just pushing the ball constantly and destroying opponents.
That is one area where Ant could even learn a thing from watching TJ play. Just how quickly he sees a gap and hits it. No need to wait for the defense or defender to get set up, beat them down the court. Similar to how Simmons and GIannis would destroy us all the time, grab a board and push it. It's hard to stop that freight train, Ant has that skill but doesn't hardly use it.
Especially punish teams for offensive rebounding. If they are going to leave a couple guys especially bigs crashing the O-glass, then make them pay. You need to. Grab the board don't let the big get back to the paint. Beat him to it.
But despite Rob's speed and athleticism, I don't think our pace of play will change much when he joins the rotation. This is always going to be Ant's team, and Ant simply isn't a fast-paced player. As much as we would love to see Ant flying up and down the court, it's just not his style of play. He prefers to bring the ball up deliberately, observe the defense, and determine the best way to attack. I've posted before about how much more effective Ant could be if he moved more like Curry and got more catch and shoot opportunities, and Q has corrected me a couple times saying we can hope for Ant to turn into a different style of player, but ultimately he is what he is...and quite good at it. Ant will make some tweaks to his game as he matures, but I don't see his overall nature changing much. Frankly, he probably fits better with a Tyus Jones type PG than Rob.
After makes sure, maybe not, but for sure after a board or steal. I've seen him do it in spurts, but like you said. He is more apt to walk the ball up. I just don't think he is using his talent all the way to the max. He's obviously supremely athletic, that gets minimized when the defense is set up.
Even Finch mentioned in the postgame that Ant was trailing the play too much. I'm pretty sure the coaches want him to run but he gets winded maybe and would rather rest. The thing is though, if you're tired and still run, it makes the OTHER team tired too. Then they are even less likely to push it back the other way. It's just a matter of who is the more aggressive team. The aggressor usually prevails.
Re: Backup point guard options this summer
Tyus or his brother Tre (if made available) make a lot of sense as the Jones boys can handle the ball with very little turnovers. We need that if we meet OKC in the playoffs. We can't have Ju handling the ball or even NAW or Donte as they are below average ball handlers. Conley is a decent ballhandler but he's starting to show his age and probably should be moved to a bench role. Someone mentioned Suggs and I like him if we could get him in a trade. Chris Paul or Jrue Holiday are older guys who are rumored to be available but if they came here cheaply, it may be worth considering.
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Re: Backup point guard options this summer
Tre Jones is a FA. I don't see him making $10M/annually. In fact, it might be a lot less. Do it.KG4Ever wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 1:43 am Tyus or his brother Tre (if made available) make a lot of sense as the Jones boys can handle the ball with very little turnovers. We need that if we meet OKC in the playoffs. We can't have Ju handling the ball or even NAW or Donte as they are below average ball handlers. Conley is a decent ballhandler but he's starting to show his age and probably should be moved to a bench role. Someone mentioned Suggs and I like him if we could get him in a trade. Chris Paul or Jrue Holiday are older guys who are rumored to be available but if they came here cheaply, it may be worth considering.
Suggs is about to make $35M next season... although his contract goes down each subsequent year. Orlando would also want players in return.
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Re: Backup point guard options this summer
Read about some Garland for Suggs rumors yesterday. I think we need to toss our hat into that ring with Ju being the primary chip.