kekgeek wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 12:22 am
Obi Toppin made more 3s in one game than Naz did the whole series against the Thunder. Let that sink in.
Hard to pay a guy who is too small for the 5 and too slow for the 3. In a era of position flexibility hard for me to pay a guy who is only positive in one context (albeit he is very good in that context)
Is he too slow to play at the 3 regularly tho?
Sure compared to Kuminga he got roasted but that guy is one of the best athletes in the league.
Offensively I have no concern about Naz as a SF cause his post game is so good he should be able to abuse smaller defenders and can beat a good number off the bounce anyway. It will also be easier to get him in the corner, where he could be really effective.
Defensively I'm less sure. Naz is a legit good help side defender. He's flashed decent ability at the poa on the perimeter, but is likely to be exploited by playoff level teams...idk
Either way I much prefer keeping Naz to Randle simply because Randle impedes Jaden playing more PF, and TJ feels like he might be pretty good Naz insurance if that bet doesn't pay off super well
kekgeek wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 12:22 am
Obi Toppin made more 3s in one game than Naz did the whole series against the Thunder. Let that sink in.
Hard to pay a guy who is too small for the 5 and too slow for the 3. In a era of position flexibility hard for me to pay a guy who is only positive in one context (albeit he is very good in that context)
Is he too slow to play at the 3 regularly tho?
Sure compared to Kuminga he got roasted but that guy is one of the best athletes in the league.
Offensively I have no concern about Naz as a SF cause his post game is so good he should be able to abuse smaller defenders and can beat a good number off the bounce anyway. It will also be easier to get him in the corner, where he could be really effective.
Defensively I'm less sure. Naz is a legit good help side defender. He's flashed decent ability at the poa on the perimeter, but is likely to be exploited by playoff level teams...idk
Either way I much prefer keeping Naz to Randle simply because Randle impedes Jaden playing more PF, and TJ feels like he might be pretty good Naz insurance if that bet doesn't pay off super well
I agree, Aussie. Even of Naz is too small for the 5 and too slow for the 3, I’d say his just perfect for the 4. I also agree with you that Naz can play the 3 well enough depending on the matchup. More importantly, my view of Naz relates more to the choice between him and Randle. For me that’s a fairly easy choice in favor of Naz. It’s worth noting that Naz had a significantly better defensive rating than Randle this past season. Both Randle and Naz played next to Rudy so Rudy’s presence doesn’t explain away that differential. And as important as the playoffs are, you have to put a lot more stock in a player’s 82 game sample than 15 playoff games when evaluating him.
I agree, Aussie. Even of Naz is too small for the 5 and too slow for the 3, I’d say his just perfect for the 4. I also agree with you that Naz can play the 3 well enough depending on the matchup. More importantly, my view of Naz relates more to the choice between him and Randle. For me that’s a fairly easy choice in favor of Naz. It’s worth noting that Naz had a significantly better defensive rating than Randle this past season. Both Randle and Naz played next to Rudy so Rudy’s presence doesn’t explain away that differential. And as important as the playoffs are, you have to put a lot more stock in a player’s 82 game sample than 15 playoff games when evaluating him.
I am not so sure that we should be more focused on reg season games. Sure it is a bigger sample size, but in the PO's teams are able to spend more time game planning. I think the reg season games should be looked at wrt contending teams. We know we have struggled in the past with Doncic and OKC as whole.
What I find interesting is that we went 2-1 against OKC in the reg season with both Rudy and Randle out. Reid may not be a defensive stalwart, but managed to help the wolves to a respectable record without Rudy. In the games Rudy missed we played ten games with six against PO teams including three against OKC. We went 6-4 in those games which is on par with our winning percentage for the season. In the OKC PO series I would have liked to see Naz, Jaden, Shannon, Ant and Clark on the floor together. I don't think we would be worried about Naz defensively in that scenario. I don't know if anyone noticed but more than once OKC played lineups without Hartenstein or Holmgren on the floor. OKC didn't seem to be worried about our size.
According to SharmsCharania, the Lakers are expected to offer Naz a 3-year, $120 million deal in free agency. If that’s the case, the Wolves should look to move him to an Eastern Conference team in a sign-and-trade. Even if we don’t get much in return, it’s better than nothing and especially better than letting Naz go to the Lakers.
According to SharmsCharania, the Lakers are expected to offer Naz a 3-year, $120 million deal in free agency. If that’s the case, the Wolves should look to move him to an Eastern Conference team in a sign-and-trade. Even if we don’t get much in return, it’s better than nothing and especially better than letting Naz go to the Lakers.
Ha, good one, Lip! I haven't seen that parody account before, but there are some funny bits in there.
Is this a joke? I’m tired of seeing how these teams with no cap space are going to offer these huge contacts… why would the wolves ever participate in the sign and trade? If there’s a team with legit cap space that wants to offer him something, great, otherwise I’m guessing he’ll come back begging us for 4-80. Don’t participate in sign and trades, I don’t get it. Teams that do sign and trades for guys that they’d like to keep are stupid in my opinion. I don’t get it.
D-Loser25 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 11:09 pm
Is this a joke? I’m tired of seeing how these teams with no cap space are going to offer these huge contacts… why would the wolves ever participate in the sign and trade? If there’s a team with legit cap space that wants to offer him something, great, otherwise I’m guessing he’ll come back begging us for 4-80. Don’t participate in sign and trades, I don’t get it. Teams that do sign and trades for guys that they’d like to keep are stupid in my opinion. I don’t get it.
D-Loser25 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 11:09 pm
Is this a joke? I’m tired of seeing how these teams with no cap space are going to offer these huge contacts… why would the wolves ever participate in the sign and trade? If there’s a team with legit cap space that wants to offer him something, great, otherwise I’m guessing he’ll come back begging us for 4-80. Don’t participate in sign and trades, I don’t get it. Teams that do sign and trades for guys that they’d like to keep are stupid in my opinion. I don’t get it.
Fake account, D-Loser...kind of clever though.
lol. The Lakers have a payroll of $187M next season. Their only path to Naz Reed would be a sign-and-trade. I can see TC dealing Naz in a sign-and-trade, but not to the Lakers unless we were to get Luka in return.
D-Loser25 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 11:09 pm
Is this a joke? I’m tired of seeing how these teams with no cap space are going to offer these huge contacts… why would the wolves ever participate in the sign and trade? If there’s a team with legit cap space that wants to offer him something, great, otherwise I’m guessing he’ll come back begging us for 4-80. Don’t participate in sign and trades, I don’t get it. Teams that do sign and trades for guys that they’d like to keep are stupid in my opinion. I don’t get it.
Fake account, D-Loser...kind of clever though.
lol. The Lakers have a payroll of $187M next season. Their only path to Naz Reed would be a sign-and-trade. I can see TC dealing Naz in a sign-and-trade, but not to the Lakers unless we were to get Luka in return.
And if Luka comes to the Wolves in that scenario, Luka is benched and never plays again, right?
D-Loser25 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 11:09 pm
Is this a joke? I’m tired of seeing how these teams with no cap space are going to offer these huge contacts… why would the wolves ever participate in the sign and trade? If there’s a team with legit cap space that wants to offer him something, great, otherwise I’m guessing he’ll come back begging us for 4-80. Don’t participate in sign and trades, I don’t get it. Teams that do sign and trades for guys that they’d like to keep are stupid in my opinion. I don’t get it.
Fake account, D-Loser...kind of clever though.
lol. The Lakers have a payroll of $187M next season. Their only path to Naz Reed would be a sign-and-trade. I can see TC dealing Naz in a sign-and-trade, but not to the Lakers unless we were to get Luka in return.
I wouldn't mind Austin Reeves for Naz, if we're aquiring another 4/5 via trade making Naz more expendable. We torched him in the playoffs sure, but I think he's quite a bit better then he shown against us. We got dudes on D too.
