Bored Silly - How About The Draft?!?

[60WinTim]

I'm just hoping some other team trades for Durant before the draft, otherwise, the draft will be no fun as Ill expect the Wolves are picking for Phoenix or another team.

Yeah, that’s the thing. The longer we go without a KD trade to one of those other teams, the more likely it will be the Wolves sine the cannot make a trade until after July 1st.

[Q-is-here]

Wolves take Sorber at #17 in the latest ESPN mock draft. I'm assuming a few folks here will be pleased to see that.

[WildWolf2813]

Wolves take Sorber at #17 in the latest ESPN mock draft. I'm assuming a few folks here will be pleased to see that.

What I didn't like was Saraf at 31, but that's the kind of guy Finch prefers: a guard who can't shoot but does everything else at an above average rate and more importantly has the size Finch wants. The jumper stinks but Finch would rather unlock someone's jump shot than teach you how to adequately defend.

[Q-is-here]

Wolves take Sorber at #17 in the latest ESPN mock draft. I'm assuming a few folks here will be pleased to see that.

What I didn't like was Saraf at 31, but that's the kind of guy Finch prefers: a guard who can't shoot but does everything else at an above average rate and more importantly has the size Finch wants. The jumper stinks but Finch would rather unlock someone's jump shot than teach you how to adequately defend.

How do you know this and what makes you think Finch has that much influence on who Connelly drafts??

[WildWolf2813]

Wolves take Sorber at #17 in the latest ESPN mock draft. I'm assuming a few folks here will be pleased to see that.

What I didn't like was Saraf at 31, but that's the kind of guy Finch prefers: a guard who can't shoot but does everything else at an above average rate and more importantly has the size Finch wants. The jumper stinks but Finch would rather unlock someone's jump shot than teach you how to adequately defend.

How do you know this and what makes you think Finch has that much influence on who Connelly drafts??

I don't think he does. That's partly why Dillingham is here. I feel like if it was up to Finch, Rob wouldn't have been on his board.

Every time we've had developmental guards under Finch they've been Daishen Nix types. Tristen Newton. Even Wendell Moore, at least in how Connelly hoped to see him utilized. Even Slow-Mo who kinda spoiled Finch because he a supersized PG basically. That's not to say he's anti-short PG, but if you're a short PG who needs to learn defense, Finch doesn't really care if your offense can overcome that.

For as much as we'd like to see reinforcements at PG (most notably Lonzo Ball), any new body will just give Finch an excuse to not play Rob, who would be the odd man out in any new grouping next year, not Conley.

[kekgeek]

Wolves take Sorber at #17 in the latest ESPN mock draft. I'm assuming a few folks here will be pleased to see that.

What I didn't like was Saraf at 31, but that's the kind of guy Finch prefers: a guard who can't shoot but does everything else at an above average rate and more importantly has the size Finch wants. The jumper stinks but Finch would rather unlock someone's jump shot than teach you how to adequately defend.

How do you know this and what makes you think Finch has that much influence on who Connelly drafts??

Also Finch Guards while being here
Conley: very good shooter
Dilly: was projected as a good shooter
Jmac: streaky but good shooter
Dlo: good shooter
Pat Bev: a solid shooter
Rubio: bad shooter and made it a half a year with Finch


It’s one year but does Finch not get credit for Ant becoming an elite 3 point shooter, Clark was projected to be a terrible shooter and was good this year. Naw best years shooting were with Finch, Kyle Anderson had his best shooting season under Finch.

[Q-is-here]

What I didn't like was Saraf at 31, but that's the kind of guy Finch prefers: a guard who can't shoot but does everything else at an above average rate and more importantly has the size Finch wants. The jumper stinks but Finch would rather unlock someone's jump shot than teach you how to adequately defend.

How do you know this and what makes you think Finch has that much influence on who Connelly drafts??

I don't think he does. That's partly why Dillingham is here. I feel like if it was up to Finch, Rob wouldn't have been on his board.

Every time we've had developmental guards under Finch they've been Daishen Nix types. Tristen Newton. Even Wendell Moore, at least in how Connelly hoped to see him utilized. Even Slow-Mo who kinda spoiled Finch because he a supersized PG basically. That's not to say he's anti-short PG, but if you're a short PG who needs to learn defense, Finch doesn't really care if your offense can overcome that.

For as much as we'd like to see reinforcements at PG (most notably Lonzo Ball), any new body will just give Finch an excuse to not play Rob, who would be the odd man out in any new grouping next year, not Conley.

Finch yearns for someone that can organize the offense AND create shots for himself and others off the bounce, but we've had one sub-optimal option after another during his tenure. Guys like Rubio, Conley, Kyle Anderson and Jordan McLaughlin could do the former, but not the latter. Guys like Nowell could do the latter but not the former....and then eventually couldn't do the latter either.

Randle and DLO are probably the closest Finch has had to combining the two things, but they have other holes in their game that are tough to overcome.

As for Dillingham, Finch praised him for his defense, but criticized his offense.

[Monster]

How do you know this and what makes you think Finch has that much influence on who Connelly drafts??

I don't think he does. That's partly why Dillingham is here. I feel like if it was up to Finch, Rob wouldn't have been on his board.

Every time we've had developmental guards under Finch they've been Daishen Nix types. Tristen Newton. Even Wendell Moore, at least in how Connelly hoped to see him utilized. Even Slow-Mo who kinda spoiled Finch because he a supersized PG basically. That's not to say he's anti-short PG, but if you're a short PG who needs to learn defense, Finch doesn't really care if your offense can overcome that.

For as much as we'd like to see reinforcements at PG (most notably Lonzo Ball), any new body will just give Finch an excuse to not play Rob, who would be the odd man out in any new grouping next year, not Conley.

Finch yearns for someone that can organize the offense AND create shots for himself and others off the bounce, but we've had one sub-optimal option after another during his tenure. Guys like Rubio, Conley, Kyle Anderson and Jordan McLaughlin could do the former, but not the latter. Guys like Nowell could do the latter but not the former....and then eventually couldn't do the latter either.

Randle and DLO are probably the closest Finch has had to combining the two things, but they have other holes in their game that are tough to overcome.

As for Dillingham, Finch praised him for his defense, but criticized his offense.

Finch played Nowell in his last season as a Wolf minutes that he didn't deserve. Granted Finch at times that last season didn't have many other options but still. The Wolves traded for Morris who certainly doesn't fit the mold of what was suggested that Finch wants. Personally I think the Wolves have been looking at the bigger PG type for years even before Finch was hired. I don't think they are alone a lot of teams have looked trying to find the next combo guard type you can put out there like a Derrick White, Jrue Holiday or even a Caruso. If things are pretty equal you are gonna try out the guy that has more size that can play 2-3 positions and there are likely simply more of those guys now than 10 or more years ago. Finch loved Anderson because quite frankly there were times they didn't have a choice but lean on him heavily as a PG option. His first year he saved the Wolves at the PG position for a chunk of the season.

[Lipoli390]

How do you know this and what makes you think Finch has that much influence on who Connelly drafts??

I don't think he does. That's partly why Dillingham is here. I feel like if it was up to Finch, Rob wouldn't have been on his board.

Every time we've had developmental guards under Finch they've been Daishen Nix types. Tristen Newton. Even Wendell Moore, at least in how Connelly hoped to see him utilized. Even Slow-Mo who kinda spoiled Finch because he a supersized PG basically. That's not to say he's anti-short PG, but if you're a short PG who needs to learn defense, Finch doesn't really care if your offense can overcome that.

For as much as we'd like to see reinforcements at PG (most notably Lonzo Ball), any new body will just give Finch an excuse to not play Rob, who would be the odd man out in any new grouping next year, not Conley.

Finch yearns for someone that can organize the offense AND create shots for himself and others off the bounce, but we've had one sub-optimal option after another during his tenure. Guys like Rubio, Conley, Kyle Anderson and Jordan McLaughlin could do the former, but not the latter. Guys like Nowell could do the latter but not the former....and then eventually couldn't do the latter either.

Randle and DLO are probably the closest Finch has had to combining the two things, but they have other holes in their game that are tough to overcome.

As for Dillingham, Finch praised him for his defense, but criticized his offense.

Finch praised Dillingham’s toughness and defensive improvement. I wouldn’t say he criticized Dilly’s offense. He mentioned that he’d like to see Rob focus more on making plays for his teammates. But he also said the following: “He does things not a lot of other people do - he can create easy shots for others and himself.” You might recall TC saying after last year’s draft that they actually were more impressed with Dilly’s playmaking in college than in his scoring. I think they traded up to #8 for Dilly precisely because of his ability to create shots for himself and others off the dribble. That’s what impressed them the most coming out of college and that’s apparently what TC still sees in him. Now it’s just a matter of having the patience with Dilly that other GMs did not have with the likes of Haliburton and SGA. The fact that TC praised Dilly’s toughness and defense strikes me as a huge bonus.

[Monster]

I don't think he does. That's partly why Dillingham is here. I feel like if it was up to Finch, Rob wouldn't have been on his board.

Every time we've had developmental guards under Finch they've been Daishen Nix types. Tristen Newton. Even Wendell Moore, at least in how Connelly hoped to see him utilized. Even Slow-Mo who kinda spoiled Finch because he a supersized PG basically. That's not to say he's anti-short PG, but if you're a short PG who needs to learn defense, Finch doesn't really care if your offense can overcome that.

For as much as we'd like to see reinforcements at PG (most notably Lonzo Ball), any new body will just give Finch an excuse to not play Rob, who would be the odd man out in any new grouping next year, not Conley.

Finch yearns for someone that can organize the offense AND create shots for himself and others off the bounce, but we've had one sub-optimal option after another during his tenure. Guys like Rubio, Conley, Kyle Anderson and Jordan McLaughlin could do the former, but not the latter. Guys like Nowell could do the latter but not the former....and then eventually couldn't do the latter either.

Randle and DLO are probably the closest Finch has had to combining the two things, but they have other holes in their game that are tough to overcome.

As for Dillingham, Finch praised him for his defense, but criticized his offense.

Finch praised Dillingham’s toughness and defensive improvement. I wouldn’t say he criticized Dilly’s offense. He mentioned that he’s like to see Rob focus more on making plays for his teammates. But he also said the following: “He does things not a lot of other people do - he can create easy shots for others and himself.” You might recall TC saying after last year’s draft that they actually were more impressed with Dilly’s playmaking in college than in his scoring. I think they traded up to #8 for Dilly precisely because of his ability to create shots for himself and others off the dribble. That’s what impressed them the most coming out of college and that’s apparently what TC still sees in him. Now it’s just a matter of having the patience with Dilly that other GMs did not have with the likes of Haliburton and SGA. The fact that TC praised Dilly’s toughness and defense strikes me as a huge bonus.

Yeah Finch more stated some specifics he could work on and I took that partly as him knowing when to play make and when to score. That's usually the toughest thing for a guy to do who has legit talent to get a bucket. Finch also said something like his 3 point shot was too loose or something like that. Looking back at his shooting on BB reference he actually shot a very good 73% 3 feet and in. The 2nd most shots he took were 3-10 feet which isn't a positive but he shot just over 40% which isn't a disaster especially for a smaller rookie guard. He shot over 46% on 10-16 feet and then shot bad on 16 out to the 3 but that was literally just a couple of shots which is fine I'd prefer most guys don't take those long 2's.