So What's Your Plan? The Offseason Roster Construction Thread

[Coolbreeze44]

I'm starting to think that Randle will sign an extension for something less than his player option of 31 mil. The Wolves will then use the remaining space below the 2nd apron to add a vet PG in free agency. Offseason done.

Ugh. Now that Reid is locked in, we really don't need Randle IMO.

We really don't WANT Randle IMO

[Coolbreeze44]

I'm starting to think that Randle will sign an extension for something less than his player option of 31 mil. The Wolves will then use the remaining space below the 2nd apron to add a vet PG in free agency. Offseason done.

Ugh. Now that Reid is locked in, we really don't need Randle IMO.

We really don't WANT Randle IMO

We just can't put up a barrier to further offensive development by Jaden.

[Monster]

I'm starting to think that Randle will sign an extension for something less than his player option of 31 mil. The Wolves will then use the remaining space below the 2nd apron to add a vet PG in free agency. Offseason done.

You forgot the sign and trade of NAW for a future 2nd and 2nd round pick swaps in 2033 and 2037!

[Crazysauce]

What about looking at Kevin Porter Jr? Kid is supremely talented and had a great season.

[kekgeek]

What about looking at Kevin Porter Jr? Kid is supremely talented and had a great season.

I think it’s safe to say that wolves like high character players and KPJ is a long ways from that. Also probably out of their price range

[Lipoli390]

I'm starting to think that Randle will sign an extension for something less than his player option of 31 mil. The Wolves will then use the remaining space below the 2nd apron to add a vet PG in free agency. Offseason done.

Ugh. Now that Reid is locked in, we really don't need Randle IMO.

We really don't WANT Randle IMO

I think it’s highly likely the Wolves will sign Randle to a multi-year deal for several reasons:

1. TC has stated he wants Randle back and Finch loves Randle.

2. Randle wants to be here, referring to last season with the Wolves as the most meaningful basketball he’s played in his entire career.

3. I don’t think Randle is garnering a lot of interest in the free agent market so I don’t think he’ll have many options and I doubt they’ll be particularly lucrative options. Specifically, I don’t see any team offering hm a multi-year deal that starts as high as $30. In fact, I suspect his market value is around $20 to 25 million per year on a 3 or 4 year deal. He’s just not the type of player teams covet today and he’s at an age when no team will expect him to show any more improvement. His last deal in 2021 was $117 over 4 years, which averages around $29M per year. He was 26 years old at the time. There are a limited number of teams with enough cap space to sign him and I don’t see any teams motivated enough to manipulate their rosters to make cap room for him. That means, if our front office wants him back (which they’ve said they do), they’ll make an offer and I don’t see any reason to believe Randle would turn it down even if the offer starts in the low $20s.

I hope our front office is shopping Randle for a more defensive-oriented big to back up Rudy. But the same lack of free agent interest likely means a lack of trade interest in Randle. I’ve floated a dual sign-and-trade of Randle for Capela. I know Monster hated that idea and I’d want more in the return package but I don’t see that happening.

[rapsuperstar31]

If NAW is in such high demand, I wonder if it makes sense to re-sign Randle to a three year deal starting at less than 30 million or just opt in and play it out, re-sign NAW to fair value where teams would still trade for him. We start the season in the 2nd tax apron, which means we can't aggregate contracts, but at the trade deadline we trade NAW (or Donte) to a team for 1st round pick and get under the 2nd apron, where a sign and trade now you are probably lucky to get a 2nd round pick.

[Monster]

Ugh. Now that Reid is locked in, we really don't need Randle IMO.

We really don't WANT Randle IMO

I think it’s highly likely the Wolves will sign Randle to a multi-year deal for several reasons:

1. TC has stated he wants Randle back and Finch loves Randle.

2. Randle wants to be here, referring to last season with the Wolves as the most meaningful basketball he’s played in his entire career.

3. I don’t think Randle is garnering a lot of interest in the free agent market so I don’t think he’ll have many options and I doubt they’ll be particularly lucrative options. Specifically, I don’t see any team offering hm a multi-year deal that starts as high as $30. In fact, I suspect his market value is around $20 to 25 million per year on a 3 or 4 year deal. He’s just not the type of player teams covet today and he’s at an age when no team will expect him to show any more improvement. His last deal in 2021 was $117 over 4 years, which averages around $29M per year. He was 26 years old at the time. There are a limited number of teams with enough cap space to sign him and I don’t see any teams motivated enough to manipulate their rosters to make cap room for him. That means, if our front office wants him back (which they’ve said they do), they’ll make an offer and I don’t see any reason to believe Randle would turn it down even if the offer starts in the low $20s.

I hope our front office is shopping Randle for a more defensive-oriented big to back up Rudy. But the same lack of free agent interest likely means a lack of trade interest in Randle. I’ve floated a dual sign-and-trade of Randle for Capela. I know Monster hated that idea and I’d want more in the return package but I don’t see that happening.

I doubt the market for Randle is quite as dire as you say but you outlined well why he is likely to want to come back. The biggest issues are nobody that would want him can just sign him to a deal this offseason without some sort of gymnastics. The other big thing like you said is idk how many teams will want to give him a deal for more than 2 or 3 years and on top of that one thing you didn't mention is a lot of team that might be interested will have a younger player that they may hope can be the answer at the position anyway so it's not like Randle will be the guy at PF anywhere he would sign or be traded to...somewhat similar to where he is now.

I think if Randle resigns with the Wolves it will be below 30 million but I think it will be more like 27 million than 25. This will depend on how much Randle wants to help the team add another player or 2 in free agency. One reason he might not take 25 or less is he might not want to lock himself into a deal that he thinks is too easily traded. Why maybe take less money to be traded in a year? Connelly traded Towns a few months ago but I also think trading him to the Knicks was a place Towns was probably pretty happy to land and Randle might feel comfortable that even if he signed for a cheaper deal the Wolves wouldn't just send him to a team that wasn't a super great landing spot.

I think it's hard to forget that despite Randle's unique game and flaws and whatever else he is a pretty good player and there are probably teams that would like to have him including the Wolves. It also feels like teams aren't quite as desparate for PF options as they were a few years ago when teams were seemingly dying to trade for Larry Nance Jr.

[Monster]

If NAW is in such high demand, I wonder if it makes sense to re-sign Randle to a three year deal starting at less than 30 million or just opt in and play it out, re-sign NAW to fair value where teams would still trade for him. We start the season in the 2nd tax apron, which means we can't aggregate contracts, but at the trade deadline we trade NAW (or Donte) to a team for 1st round pick and get under the 2nd apron, where a sign and trade now you are probably lucky to get a 2nd round pick.

That's something to consider. I think if NAW is truly in high demand then it's more likely that teams will have to do a sign and trade to get him so the Wolves can get something for him. They were able to get a meh 2nd rounder and a 2nd round pick swap for Kyle Anderson last year. If the Wolves could get a couple decrnt 2nds for NAW I think that might be better to take now than hope to get some sort of return a few months from now. Teams will know we need to offload someone so that could affect the return. What if one of those guys got hurt? What if they both got hurt?

[Phenom]

If NAW is in such high demand, I wonder if it makes sense to re-sign Randle to a three year deal starting at less than 30 million or just opt in and play it out, re-sign NAW to fair value where teams would still trade for him. We start the season in the 2nd tax apron, which means we can't aggregate contracts, but at the trade deadline we trade NAW (or Donte) to a team for 1st round pick and get under the 2nd apron, where a sign and trade now you are probably lucky to get a 2nd round pick.

That's something to consider. I think if NAW is truly in high demand then it's more likely that teams will have to do a sign and trade to get him so the Wolves can get something for him. They were able to get a meh 2nd rounder and a 2nd round pick swap for Kyle Anderson last year. If the Wolves could get a couple decrnt 2nds for NAW I think that might be better to take now than hope to get some sort of return a few months from now. Teams will know we need to offload someone so that could affect the return. What if one of those guys got hurt? What if they both got hurt?

Starting the year in the second apron and getting out later is an option, you just don't want to overplay your hand. Donte and Nickeil will be very tradeable and that shouldn't change barring a bad injury.