Well said, Lip. I thought he might bounce back after his suspension with an "I'll show them" game, but instead he was terrible...5 turnovers and 5 for 16 shooting. And he's now shooting 13.9% on treys for the season. He pouted and got Jenkins fired, and now he's dissatisfied with the new coach, who has an entirely different personality than Jenkins! He's a punk, and he'll always be a punk. I feel sorry for the team that trades for him.
All in for Morant
Re: All in for Morant
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Re: All in for Morant
I'm no Memphis Grizzlies expert... or Ja Morant expert. But the 1,000-mile view is that Morant has issues and is the problem. And his on-court game is deteriorating.
And then I listen to Justin Vernon on the Zach Lowe podcast and he swears the guy is NOT a knucklehead or one of "those guys."
To be fair, I didn't hear the entire podcast.
And then I listen to Justin Vernon on the Zach Lowe podcast and he swears the guy is NOT a knucklehead or one of "those guys."
To be fair, I didn't hear the entire podcast.
Re: All in for Morant
Yeah Chris Vernon is a fan for sure. I was listening with my kids it was kind of funny. My daughter summed it up best she said, "Im not sure he's a bad guy, but he sure acts like one"AbeVigodaLive wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 10:58 am I'm no Memphis Grizzlies expert... or Ja Morant expert. But the 1,000-mile view is that Morant has issues and is the problem. And his on-court game is deteriorating.
And then I listen to Justin Vernon on the Zach Lowe podcast and he swears the guy is NOT a knucklehead or one of "those guys."
To be fair, I didn't hear the entire podcast.
His fall might be the most significant I can remember if he never regains any sort of all star level play.
- Coolbreeze44
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Re: All in for Morant
Great line by your daughter. Normally I would be heavily interested in a guy like Ja who could move the meter. We need a point guard, but we don't need a ferrari. I also believe we now have a legitimate big 3 with the offensive emergence of Jaden. Let's make a lesser deal for a good, heady point guard, another one for a center who can play defense and see where that takes us.thedoper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:07 pmYeah Chris Vernon is a fan for sure. I was listening with my kids it was kind of funny. My daughter summed it up best she said, "Im not sure he's a bad guy, but he sure acts like one"AbeVigodaLive wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 10:58 am I'm no Memphis Grizzlies expert... or Ja Morant expert. But the 1,000-mile view is that Morant has issues and is the problem. And his on-court game is deteriorating.
And then I listen to Justin Vernon on the Zach Lowe podcast and he swears the guy is NOT a knucklehead or one of "those guys."
To be fair, I didn't hear the entire podcast.
His fall might be the most significant I can remember if he never regains any sort of all star level play.
Re: All in for Morant
So, you don't see an DDV/ANT backcourt as viable moving forward?Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 1:25 pmGreat line by your daughter. Normally I would be heavily interested in a guy like Ja who could move the meter. We need a point guard, but we don't need a ferrari. I also believe we now have a legitimate big 3 with the offensive emergence of Jaden. Let's make a lesser deal for a good, heady point guard, another one for a center who can play defense and see where that takes us.thedoper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:07 pmYeah Chris Vernon is a fan for sure. I was listening with my kids it was kind of funny. My daughter summed it up best she said, "Im not sure he's a bad guy, but he sure acts like one"AbeVigodaLive wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 10:58 am I'm no Memphis Grizzlies expert... or Ja Morant expert. But the 1,000-mile view is that Morant has issues and is the problem. And his on-court game is deteriorating.
And then I listen to Justin Vernon on the Zach Lowe podcast and he swears the guy is NOT a knucklehead or one of "those guys."
To be fair, I didn't hear the entire podcast.
His fall might be the most significant I can remember if he never regains any sort of all star level play.
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Re: All in for Morant
Not against OKC. We need a pass-first point guard who can defend. And Clark needs to play substantial minutes also.60WinTim wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 1:33 pmSo, you don't see an DDV/ANT backcourt as viable moving forward?Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 1:25 pmGreat line by your daughter. Normally I would be heavily interested in a guy like Ja who could move the meter. We need a point guard, but we don't need a ferrari. I also believe we now have a legitimate big 3 with the offensive emergence of Jaden. Let's make a lesser deal for a good, heady point guard, another one for a center who can play defense and see where that takes us.thedoper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2025 12:07 pm
Yeah Chris Vernon is a fan for sure. I was listening with my kids it was kind of funny. My daughter summed it up best she said, "Im not sure he's a bad guy, but he sure acts like one"
His fall might be the most significant I can remember if he never regains any sort of all star level play.
Re: All in for Morant
Difficult contract to trade for at 39.4 mil this season and us being on the edge of breaking the 2nd Apron. It would require us to trade either Randle / Gobert and DDV / Conley to acquire him and leave us with only 13 players on main roster.
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Re: All in for Morant
Morant is a fantastic highlight reel but at this point he has a lot to prove before any other franchise besides the Griz should gamble on him.
And if he's trying to force his way out of Memphis by playing like crap then there is really no reason to talk yourself into him being on your team.
And if he's trying to force his way out of Memphis by playing like crap then there is really no reason to talk yourself into him being on your team.
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Re: All in for Morant
He's more hype and highlight reels then an on court winner. Doesn't shoot well enough from 3, yeah I was right after looking it up, he's a very poor 31% career 3P shooter (Ricky Rubio shot 32%, so he's arguably a worse shooter). You really have to play him with a stretch 5 otherwise the paint is super clogged (so no Rudy or Joan).
Then his off court behavior and other issues and baggage (potentially bad teammate and is he even coachable?). I'd pass. If he was a good 3P shooter I'd be maybe fine with it, but it's just hard to play a guy like that today and win a chip as a large contract guy too.
Too many negatives for me.
Then his off court behavior and other issues and baggage (potentially bad teammate and is he even coachable?). I'd pass. If he was a good 3P shooter I'd be maybe fine with it, but it's just hard to play a guy like that today and win a chip as a large contract guy too.
Too many negatives for me.
Re: All in for Morant
He had his best season statistically his age-22 year, his 3rd in the NBA. He has been gradually getting worse every season ever since. That by itself is a red flag, as most players keep improving and hit their peak production in their mid to late 20s.
Panning back a bit, I think we've talked about this before as it relates to Dillingham's future. Small-ish point guards that are high-usage scorers almost never find a ton of playoff success in the post-2000 NBA. Ja Morant, Kemba Walker, and Darius Garland are just a few examples. Their offensive efficiency tends to go down in the playoffs and they get relentlessly targeted on defense. Just not a good combination.
Panning back a bit, I think we've talked about this before as it relates to Dillingham's future. Small-ish point guards that are high-usage scorers almost never find a ton of playoff success in the post-2000 NBA. Ja Morant, Kemba Walker, and Darius Garland are just a few examples. Their offensive efficiency tends to go down in the playoffs and they get relentlessly targeted on defense. Just not a good combination.