WW Brings the Magic - Wolves at Knicks GDT

[Wolvesfan21]

Before tonight’s game opponents get an offensive rebound on 28.1% of possessions Rudy is on the floor.

When he is off it is a 41.8%
It’s 42.4% with no Rudy and with Naz


League average 29.2%

That's good stats and it's sadly what we watch. Just a complete lack of hustle or maybe ability to rebound even close to avg, it's just terrible.

I might go back to Joan may have to play even if he's not ready. We can't go into the postseason (if we even make it) not being able to defend in the non Rudy minutes. The biggest part of defending is getting the fucking ball! Rebound!!!! You can't get a stop without the ball in your hands. Who cares if they miss if they just clean it up with a tap in lay up/dunk.

Joan is likely not ready either, but he likely will play hard and try to rebound with effort, even if he as a 7 footer isn't good for his size right now.

Naz and Ju are just not 5's, we simply cannot defend or rebound when they are in the game together (sharing that role), and their offense has to be lights out so we stay even +/-. It's just basic basketball. Sure scoring is fun, but defending and rebounding matter first and foremost.

I might even just go big with Naz, Randle and Joan in at the same time just so we can defend. Dilly is getting his minutes swapped for Joan.

I doubt Houston would do a deal with a Conference rival like us but Clint Capela is getting 11 MPG off the bench. I mean, they are loaded at Center with Sengun, Adams, Capela, and even Jabari Smith has the size to play some space-and-pace Center. How much of a perfect compliment would Clint Capela be off the bench for us right now!?

No one should be surprised that Rudy once again leads the Wolves in Net Rating....by a lot. It's so disappointing how dependent we are on old paddle hands, but he continues to be the most impactful player on the team during the regular season.

Yeah a trade is another option. Maybe the best one. What would a season of seasoning for Joan look like in backup role minutes? He might not be the answer either even after a playing for 4-5 months, he kind of looks lost going for rebounds, so IDK. I think he can develop the skill but how quick? Might be unreasonable but maybe not.

The trend of the non Rudy minutes being bad is very concerning right now though, but it's still early and a small sample, but it's getting bigger and a bigger issue every game.

[FNG]

Before tonight’s game opponents get an offensive rebound on 28.1% of possessions Rudy is on the floor.

When he is off it is a 41.8%
It’s 42.4% with no Rudy and with Naz


League average 29.2%

That's good stats and it's sadly what we watch. Just a complete lack of hustle or maybe ability to rebound even close to avg, it's just terrible.

I might go back to Joan may have to play even if he's not ready. We can't go into the postseason (if we even make it) not being able to defend in the non Rudy minutes. The biggest part of defending is getting the fucking ball! Rebound!!!! You can't get a stop without the ball in your hands. Who cares if they miss if they just clean it up with a tap in lay up/dunk.

Joan is likely not ready either, but he likely will play hard and try to rebound with effort, even if he as a 7 footer isn't good for his size right now.

Naz and Ju are just not 5's, we simply cannot defend or rebound when they are in the game together (sharing that role), and their offense has to be lights out so we stay even +/-. It's just basic basketball. Sure scoring is fun, but defending and rebounding matter first and foremost.

I might even just go big with Naz, Randle and Joan in at the same time just so we can defend. Dilly is getting his minutes swapped for Joan.

I doubt Houston would do a deal with a Conference rival like us but Clint Capela is getting 11 MPG off the bench. I mean, they are loaded at Center with Sengun, Adams, Capela, and even Jabari Smith has the size to play some space-and-pace Center. How much of a perfect compliment would Clint Capela be off the bench for us right now!?

No one should be surprised that Rudy once again leads the Wolves in Net Rating....by a lot. It's so disappointing how dependent we are on old paddle hands, but he continues to be the most impactful player on the team during the regular season.

I think Houston would trade with us if they thought it made them better. Dillingham for Capela? Upside trade for them, and immediate benefit for us.

[WildWolf2813]

That's good stats and it's sadly what we watch. Just a complete lack of hustle or maybe ability to rebound even close to avg, it's just terrible.

I might go back to Joan may have to play even if he's not ready. We can't go into the postseason (if we even make it) not being able to defend in the non Rudy minutes. The biggest part of defending is getting the fucking ball! Rebound!!!! You can't get a stop without the ball in your hands. Who cares if they miss if they just clean it up with a tap in lay up/dunk.

Joan is likely not ready either, but he likely will play hard and try to rebound with effort, even if he as a 7 footer isn't good for his size right now.

Naz and Ju are just not 5's, we simply cannot defend or rebound when they are in the game together (sharing that role), and their offense has to be lights out so we stay even +/-. It's just basic basketball. Sure scoring is fun, but defending and rebounding matter first and foremost.

I might even just go big with Naz, Randle and Joan in at the same time just so we can defend. Dilly is getting his minutes swapped for Joan.

I doubt Houston would do a deal with a Conference rival like us but Clint Capela is getting 11 MPG off the bench. I mean, they are loaded at Center with Sengun, Adams, Capela, and even Jabari Smith has the size to play some space-and-pace Center. How much of a perfect compliment would Clint Capela be off the bench for us right now!?

No one should be surprised that Rudy once again leads the Wolves in Net Rating....by a lot. It's so disappointing how dependent we are on old paddle hands, but he continues to be the most impactful player on the team during the regular season.

I think Houston would trade with us if they thought it made them better. Dillingham for Capela? Upside trade for them, and immediate benefit for us.

If there's one coach who's not terribly interested in long term upside, it's Udoka. If he doesn't wanna give Sheppard extended run if he can help it, then he'll never play Dillingham.

[Coolbreeze44]

I'm going to borrow from a post I read on X today because I think it's both telling and true. Rudy is simultaneously one of the worst basketball players in the league, and yet we can't function without him. It is impossible to win a championship with him on your team.

[Wolvesfan21]

I'm going to borrow from a post I read on X today because I think it's both telling and true. Rudy is simultaneously one of the worst basketball players in the league, and yet we can't function without him. It is impossible to win a championship with him on your team.

I would say if he's your best and highest paid player, for sure. But he's neither. He might be our most important player though who truly drives winning, not looking it up but but is his on off the best on the team over the last few years? I think it probably is, not sure though.

I think we even did pretty well last year when he missed some games, or was that the year before. I know for a stretch he was hurt and we did alright.

It would be interesting how his playoff numbers have been over the last two years also, compared to regular season. I know the saying from media pundits was you can't win in the playoffs with Rudy? Is that true, kind of true, or false? I'm not sure.

[Coolbreeze44]

I'm going to borrow from a post I read on X today because I think it's both telling and true. Rudy is simultaneously one of the worst basketball players in the league, and yet we can't function without him. It is impossible to win a championship with him on your team.

I would say if he's your best and highest paid player, for sure. But he's neither. He might be our most important player though who truly drives winning, not looking it up but but is his on off the best on the team over the last few years? I think it probably is, not sure though.

I think we even did pretty well last year when he missed some games, or was that the year before. I know for a stretch he was hurt and we did alright.

It would be interesting how his playoff numbers have been over the last two years also, compared to regular season. I know the saying from media pundits was you can't win in the playoffs with Rudy? Is that true, kind of true, or false? I'm not sure.

First off, he's not cheap at $35 million. His on/off numbers are only meaningful in the context of the Wolves. We are so bad defending the paint without him that his numbers are a biproduct that. On the other hand, I can't think of a worse offensive player in the league. He is Chris Dudley bad (sorry Chris, who is a friend of mine). The main point is the Wolves are far too reliant on a guy who sucks.

[Wolvesfan21]

I'm going to borrow from a post I read on X today because I think it's both telling and true. Rudy is simultaneously one of the worst basketball players in the league, and yet we can't function without him. It is impossible to win a championship with him on your team.

I would say if he's your best and highest paid player, for sure. But he's neither. He might be our most important player though who truly drives winning, not looking it up but but is his on off the best on the team over the last few years? I think it probably is, not sure though.

I think we even did pretty well last year when he missed some games, or was that the year before. I know for a stretch he was hurt and we did alright.

It would be interesting how his playoff numbers have been over the last two years also, compared to regular season. I know the saying from media pundits was you can't win in the playoffs with Rudy? Is that true, kind of true, or false? I'm not sure.

First off, he's not cheap at $35 million. His on/off numbers are only meaningful in the context of the Wolves. We are so bad defending the paint without him that his numbers are a biproduct that. On the other hand, I can't think of a worse offensive player in the league. He is Chris Dudley bad (sorry Chris, who is a friend of mine). The main point is the Wolves are far too reliant on a guy who sucks.

35 million is very reasonable, even cheap for Rudy. Still one of the best centers in the NBA even with a subpar offense. KAT for instance who is a for sure a worse player makes like 20 million more. Everywhere Rudy plays the teams are head and shoulders much better for him being on it for the last decade. It means something to be a consistent winner. Obviously 4 time DPOY. Best defender the last decade. Like who else in the NBA consistently wins? LeBron in his prime. Curry? Not many can match his on court performance.

He's been the Wolves best player for the last three years, maybe a toss up between him and Ant. But it's close for sure.

Oh, I think you were actually joking. My bad! LOL

[Coolbreeze44]

I would say if he's your best and highest paid player, for sure. But he's neither. He might be our most important player though who truly drives winning, not looking it up but but is his on off the best on the team over the last few years? I think it probably is, not sure though.

I think we even did pretty well last year when he missed some games, or was that the year before. I know for a stretch he was hurt and we did alright.

It would be interesting how his playoff numbers have been over the last two years also, compared to regular season. I know the saying from media pundits was you can't win in the playoffs with Rudy? Is that true, kind of true, or false? I'm not sure.

First off, he's not cheap at $35 million. His on/off numbers are only meaningful in the context of the Wolves. We are so bad defending the paint without him that his numbers are a biproduct that. On the other hand, I can't think of a worse offensive player in the league. He is Chris Dudley bad (sorry Chris, who is a friend of mine). The main point is the Wolves are far too reliant on a guy who sucks.

35 million is very reasonable, even cheap for Rudy. Still one of the best centers in the NBA even with a subpar offense. KAT for instance who is a for sure a worse player makes like 20 million more. Everywhere Rudy plays the teams are head and shoulders much better for him being on it for the last decade. It means something to be a consistent winner. Obviously 4 time DPOY. Best defender the last decade. Like who else in the NBA consistently wins? LeBron in his prime. Curry? Not many can match his on court performance.

He's been the Wolves best player for the last three years, maybe a toss up between him and Ant. But it's close for sure.

Oh, I think you were actually joking. My bad! LOL

Dude, do you really believe all that?

[Coolbreeze44]

Rudy's net On/Off number is a Ju Randle/NAZ Reid statistic

[kekgeek]

Rudy's net On/Off number is a Ju Randle/NAZ Reid statistic

I actually understand your points. I’m probably Rudy biggest defender and I think he has regressed. If we just talking about net (not On/Off), Rudy is still #1 on the team, unfortunately Mike is #2 (it stinks we are still so reliant on those 2).

It’s so hard to know if your point is correct or not (it might be) because in the Rudy era we have not had an average center. It’s either all nba caliber in Kat or not a natural 5 in Randle, Naz or Garza. At the moment your hypothesis is feelings based but that does not mean it’s incorrect.

Also who knows maybe we get a better Rudy if we get a better backup center because at the moment I don’t think Rudy is contesting shots due to Being worried about getting into foul trouble. (This might be me making excuses for Rudy)