Trade season

[rapsuperstar31]

Its not just about Kyle though. Having one of those picks back could be quite valuable.

I don't see anyone giving up a pick swap for Dillingham and Miller, unfortunately.

I was thinking Shannon and Dilly for Kyle and one of our picks back. The picks project to be in the 20s (but you never know) and its actually Shannon that would probably be worth one of those picks. The idea is that they dont have anyone with TJs skills etc on their roster currently. Maybe it could be worked that the Wolves only get it back if it's not in the lottery. They probably wouldn't have use for Dilly and the problem is most teams don't. The depth at his position is fairly broad and robust. It's going to come down to eye of the beholder for a team to use for Rob.

I think Phoenix has the swap rights on those picks, Phoenix gets the lowest of the Wolves, Utah, or Cleveland picks, and Utah gets the other two picks. I'm not sure if they can alter that, or do a second pick swap for the middle pick of that group.

[Phenom]

I don't see anyone giving up a pick swap for Dillingham and Miller, unfortunately.

I was thinking Shannon and Dilly for Kyle and one of our picks back. The picks project to be in the 20s (but you never know) and its actually Shannon that would probably be worth one of those picks. The idea is that they dont have anyone with TJs skills etc on their roster currently. Maybe it could be worked that the Wolves only get it back if it's not in the lottery. They probably wouldn't have use for Dilly and the problem is most teams don't. The depth at his position is fairly broad and robust. It's going to come down to eye of the beholder for a team to use for Rob.

I think Phoenix has the swap rights on those picks, Phoenix gets the lowest of the Wolves, Utah, or Cleveland picks, and Utah gets the other two picks. I'm not sure if they can alter that, or do a second pick swap for the middle pick of that group.

That's right, I forgot about that. That means they could offer the better of Cleveland and Minnesota and could still lottery protect it. That actually gives upside to both sides.

[60WinTim]

I caught a Kings podcast which said they heard the Wolves had sniffed around at Malik Monk. They were speculating on what a trade might look like, starting with Conley and Dillingham. Personally, I don't think TC will muck with the locker room by moving Conley (well, unless he values the "salary slot" Conley represents).

However, I came up with this fake trade:

Wolves trade NAZ and Dilly, get back Monk and SloMo, and hopefully some draft capital
Kings trade Monk and filler, get back NAZ and Dilly.
Jazz trade SloMo, get back the filler.

I would be perfectly happy with this!

[thedoper]

I'd like the Wolves to fleece the Hornets for Moussa Diabate and go for an all French front court of the future.

[60WinTim]

Ja is officially on the market, but I feel quite confident that TC is no longer looking for a "big swing" for the Wolves. I do expect a minor move that involves Dilly. And I wonder if there is any chance NAZ is touchable?

[AussieWolf3]

We'll see how the next few weeks play out but if the recent stretch of play is more or less maintained,.this is a championship team- a least the top 6 is. I think that means those 6 players shouldn't be touched unless its an absolute crazy deal... Which isn't gonna happen.

That said there just isn't enough quality depth to make a true playoff push, so I think it's absolutely imperative that they take a swing on a player who can make a real and reliable impact of the bench

A scoring wing who can defend decently would be my preference, but I really don't care if it's a backup center or point guard either- they just can't keep waiting for the young guys to figure it out.

Rudy is playing a DPOY level and I really think Ant has the potential to hit an MVP ceiling this year. It's pretty rare for a team to have both of those things. Add Jaden, Ju, Donte and Naz to that and it's a rare blend that shouldn't be wasted

[Q-is-here]

We'll see how the next few weeks play out but if the recent stretch of play is more or less maintained,.this is a championship team- a least the top 6 is. I think that means those 6 players shouldn't be touched unless its an absolute crazy deal... Which isn't gonna happen.

That said there just isn't enough quality depth to make a true playoff push, so I think it's absolutely imperative that they take a swing on a player who can make a real and reliable impact of the bench

A scoring wing who can defend decently would be my preference, but I really don't care if it's a backup center or point guard either- they just can't keep waiting for the young guys to figure it out.

Rudy is playing a DPOY level and I really think Ant has the potential to hit an MVP ceiling this year. It's pretty rare for a team to have both of those things. Add Jaden, Ju, Donte and Naz to that and it's a rare blend that shouldn't be wasted

I agree Aussie that assuming the Wolves maintain a solid winning rate and remain in the top six in the West, I have a really hard time seeing them take a big swing by trading any of their top guys. Lip pretty much had this confirmed at the stakeholders meeting.

The main bench guys are Naz, Conley, Clark, and Bones. I agree - that seems shaky to me.

[Lipoli390]

We'll see how the next few weeks play out but if the recent stretch of play is more or less maintained,.this is a championship team- a least the top 6 is. I think that means those 6 players shouldn't be touched unless its an absolute crazy deal... Which isn't gonna happen.

That said there just isn't enough quality depth to make a true playoff push, so I think it's absolutely imperative that they take a swing on a player who can make a real and reliable impact of the bench

A scoring wing who can defend decently would be my preference, but I really don't care if it's a backup center or point guard either- they just can't keep waiting for the young guys to figure it out.

Rudy is playing a DPOY level and I really think Ant has the potential to hit an MVP ceiling this year. It's pretty rare for a team to have both of those things. Add Jaden, Ju, Donte and Naz to that and it's a rare blend that shouldn't be wasted

I agree Aussie that assuming the Wolves maintain a solid winning rate and remain in the top six in the West, I have a really hard time seeing them take a big swing by trading any of their top guys. Lip pretty much had this confirmed at the stakeholders meeting.

The main bench guys are Naz, Conley, Clark, and Bones. I agree - that seems shaky to me.

Yes, TC was really clear that they’re not looking for impact players, shooters or scorers. They’re looking for what TC referred to as “connective tissue, glue guys who make others better.” That’s not Malik Monk. it’s not Ja Morant. Think players like Kyle Anderson, Tyus Jones and Tre Jones. I noted that TC and Finch were so emphatic in their praise of Rudy and Randle that it was crystal clear the Wolves won’t trade either one. But I don’t see the Wolves trading Naz either. If our bench is “shaky” it’s in spite of Naz, not because of him. He’s our one guy off the bench who can carry the team for stretches. He’s immensely talented and he’s both a team and crowd favorite. He’s a perennial 6th man of the year contender. He’s not going anywhere.

If I had to guess, I’d say the most likely deal would involve swapping Rob or Conley and maybe Miller for Tyus or Tre Jones. If I’d still rather go with the guys we have. Naz is a perennial 6th man of the year contender. His presence alone makes our bench one of the better ones in the League. I like the way Bones has been playing. Clark has been pretty darn good and he’ll only get better. In fact, when you consider the fact that our non-Rudy defense is probably our biggest weakness, I don’t see us getting a better fit than Clark to address that weakness. We really miss NAW but I don’t see a NAW out there as a realistic trade target. We saw last season what Shannon can do if healthy. I think his struggles this season were due to his foot, which has probably been a problem this season even when he was playing. I still think Dilly can help if given the chance. Finch said last night that he expects the Dilly will eventually be back in the rotation. I was surprised to hear him say that. He didn’t have to say it, but he did.

Grass is greener syndrome is rampant among local sports fans in every market. But if we look at other rosters honestly, their bench players look no better overall than ours. That said, I can certainly see the value in adding a Tre Jones, Tyus Jones or Kyle Anderson to our bench. If up to me, I’d trade Conley rather than Rob for one of those three (maybe throw in Miller). Orlando might like to add a veteran PG like Mike Conley and their GM loves long players like Miller.

[AussieWolf3]

We'll see how the next few weeks play out but if the recent stretch of play is more or less maintained,.this is a championship team- a least the top 6 is. I think that means those 6 players shouldn't be touched unless its an absolute crazy deal... Which isn't gonna happen.

That said there just isn't enough quality depth to make a true playoff push, so I think it's absolutely imperative that they take a swing on a player who can make a real and reliable impact of the bench

A scoring wing who can defend decently would be my preference, but I really don't care if it's a backup center or point guard either- they just can't keep waiting for the young guys to figure it out.

Rudy is playing a DPOY level and I really think Ant has the potential to hit an MVP ceiling this year. It's pretty rare for a team to have both of those things. Add Jaden, Ju, Donte and Naz to that and it's a rare blend that shouldn't be wasted

I agree Aussie that assuming the Wolves maintain a solid winning rate and remain in the top six in the West, I have a really hard time seeing them take a big swing by trading any of their top guys. Lip pretty much had this confirmed at the stakeholders meeting.

The main bench guys are Naz, Conley, Clark, and Bones. I agree - that seems shaky to me.

They need the version of Shannon they thought they would get so bad!

If they can find that as a 7th guy I just feel much better about where they're at. Right now the starters and Naz need to ball out pretty much every game if they want to win which is obviously unsustainable no matter how well they're playing right now

[AussieWolf3]

We'll see how the next few weeks play out but if the recent stretch of play is more or less maintained,.this is a championship team- a least the top 6 is. I think that means those 6 players shouldn't be touched unless its an absolute crazy deal... Which isn't gonna happen.

That said there just isn't enough quality depth to make a true playoff push, so I think it's absolutely imperative that they take a swing on a player who can make a real and reliable impact of the bench

A scoring wing who can defend decently would be my preference, but I really don't care if it's a backup center or point guard either- they just can't keep waiting for the young guys to figure it out.

Rudy is playing a DPOY level and I really think Ant has the potential to hit an MVP ceiling this year. It's pretty rare for a team to have both of those things. Add Jaden, Ju, Donte and Naz to that and it's a rare blend that shouldn't be wasted

I agree Aussie that assuming the Wolves maintain a solid winning rate and remain in the top six in the West, I have a really hard time seeing them take a big swing by trading any of their top guys. Lip pretty much had this confirmed at the stakeholders meeting.

The main bench guys are Naz, Conley, Clark, and Bones. I agree - that seems shaky to me.

Yes, TC was really clear that they’re not looking for impact players, shooters or scorers. They’re looking for what TC referred to as “connective tissue, glue guys who make others better.” That’s not Malik Monk. it’s not Ja Morant. Think players like Kyle Anderson, Tyus Jones and Tre Jones. I noted that TC and Finch were so emphatic in their praise of Rudy and Randle that it was crystal clear the Wolves won’t trade either one. But I don’t see the Wolves trading Naz either. If our bench is “shaky” it’s in spite of Naz, not because of him. He’s our one guy off the bench who can carry the team for stretches. He’s immensely talented and he’s both a team and crowd favorite. He’s a perennial 6th man of the year contender. He’s not going anywhere.

If I had to guess, I’d say the most likely deal would involve swapping Rob or Conley and maybe Miller for Tyus or Tre Jones. If I’d still rather go with the guys we have. Naz is a perennial 6th man of the year contender. His presence alone makes our bench one of the better ones in the League. I like the way Bones has been playing. Clark has been pretty darn good and he’ll only get better. In fact, when you consider the fact that our non-Rudy defense is probably our biggest weakness, I don’t see us getting a better fit than Clark to address that weakness. We really miss NAW but I don’t see a NAW out there as a realistic trade target. We saw last season what Shannon can do if healthy. I think his struggles this season were due to his foot, which has probably been a problem this season even when he was playing. I still think Dilly can help if given the chance. Finch said last night that he expects the Dilly will eventually be back in the rotation. I was surprised to hear him say that. He didn’t have to say it, but he did.

Grass is greener syndrome is rampant among local sports fans in every market. But if we look at other rosters honestly, their bench players look no better overall than ours. That said, I can certainly see the value in adding a Tre Jones, Tyus Jones or Kyle Anderson to our bench. If up to me, I’d trade Conley rather than Rob for one of those three (maybe throw in Miller). Orlando might like to add a veteran PG like Mike Conley and their GM loves long players like Miller.

Unfortunately I don't agree that this bench is good enough as is.

I agree that Naz is carrying the bench and I really really like the year he is having- might be a bit against the grain on that, but I think he's playing great. However there just isn't anyone else who is bankable. Bones is playing great right now and I'm starting to buy into him being a plus player but they will still need more than he can provide at even bid highest ceiling in my opinion.

Again I'll say, I am coming around to the idea that they need to go get an impact player. I still want to see how things look around the deadline, but I think this team actually has a chance to make a playoff push