Trade season

[Q-is-here]

I'm not a Coby or Sexton fan, but it's mostly because they are volume scorers that get buckets on crappy teams and never win. They have a total of 5 combined playoff games between them, Coby with 5 and Sexton with 0, LOL...I mean, that's pretty bad.

But do they suddenly look different playing 20-25 MPG off the bench for a contender with better defenders and overall talent around them? That's a very different context than the ones they have been in.

[BloopOracle]

I'm not a Coby or Sexton fan, but it's mostly because they are volume scorers that get buckets on crappy teams and never win. They have a total of 5 combined playoff games between them, Coby with 5 and Sexton with 0, LOL...I mean, that's pretty bad.

But do they suddenly look different playing 20-25 MPG off the bench for a contender with better defenders and overall talent around them? That's a very different context than the ones they have been in.

I bet they can do better than the 20 minutes and n 0 points Conley put up tonight, what the hell was that?

[Lipoli390]

I am a no on Coby. I would rather Sexton. Then maybe Ayo if not. Sexton is a gamer and think he would be a great get.

If I had to choose between the two I’d take Sexton over Coby in a heartbeat. But if I were in TC’s shoes, I’d turn my full attention to the Jones brothers with Tre as my top choice and Tyus as my next alternative. Mike and Rob for Tre or Mike and Miller for Tyus. Both Tyus and Tre have better defensive ratings, 116.5 and 118.8 respectively, than White or Sexton. Interestingly, Tyus and Tre both have better career offensive ratings than either White or Sexton. And clearly both Jones brothers are much better playmakers and natural PGs than Coby or Collin. I should add that the Jones bothers have more team-friendly contracts than White.

[Crazysauce]

Sextons defensive rating was getting better each year in Cleveland. Then he went to Utah, and since his rating has plummeted. I think playing on a competetive team may be what he needs. If you can get him to buy in I think it could work out well. The Utah team and the Hornets team he has been on have been awful.

[60WinTim]

I don't know why everyone is sleeping on Monk. He would have beat out NAZ for 6th man if he had not been injured late in the season. He can play above the rim more so than White or Sexton. He's signed for two more years. He seems like a much better fit to me than either White or Sexton.

[Phenom]

The problem with Monk or Sexton is it becomes a 3 for 1 proposition unless you are putting Donte in the deal and that's not happening. Can the Wolves cobble together enough players to fill the roster if they trade Mike, Rob and say Lenny for one of those 2 and stay under the 2nd apron?

The salaries of White or one of the Jones bros or even Dosunmu is a much cleaner fit. The choice is likely a numbers game. If I had to guess White is out since the team will want to keep Mike around. Rob and Lenny for Jones, Jones or Ayo or some other similarly priced player is my bet.

[60WinTim]

The problem with Monk or Sexton is it becomes a 3 for 1 proposition unless you are putting Donte in the deal and that's not happening. Can the Wolves cobble together enough players to fill the roster if they trade Mike, Rob and say Lenny for one of those 2 and stay under the 2nd apron?

The salaries of White or one of the Jones bros or even Dosunmu is a much cleaner fit. The choice is likely a numbers game. If I had to guess White is out since the team will want to keep Mike around. Rob and Lenny for Jones, Jones or Ayo or some other similarly priced player is my bet.

It's my belief that both Monk and Sexton will cost NAZ and Dilly. That brings in an entirely different conversation: how untouchable is NAZ?

[Phenom]

The problem with Monk or Sexton is it becomes a 3 for 1 proposition unless you are putting Donte in the deal and that's not happening. Can the Wolves cobble together enough players to fill the roster if they trade Mike, Rob and say Lenny for one of those 2 and stay under the 2nd apron?

The salaries of White or one of the Jones bros or even Dosunmu is a much cleaner fit. The choice is likely a numbers game. If I had to guess White is out since the team will want to keep Mike around. Rob and Lenny for Jones, Jones or Ayo or some other similarly priced player is my bet.

It's my belief that both Monk and Sexton will cost NAZ and Dilly. That brings in an entirely different conversation: how untouchable is NAZ?

I'm generally a no to trading Naz but if the deal were to bring in a player to take his spot in the rotation I would consider it

[60WinTim]

The problem with Monk or Sexton is it becomes a 3 for 1 proposition unless you are putting Donte in the deal and that's not happening. Can the Wolves cobble together enough players to fill the roster if they trade Mike, Rob and say Lenny for one of those 2 and stay under the 2nd apron?

The salaries of White or one of the Jones bros or even Dosunmu is a much cleaner fit. The choice is likely a numbers game. If I had to guess White is out since the team will want to keep Mike around. Rob and Lenny for Jones, Jones or Ayo or some other similarly priced player is my bet.

It's my belief that both Monk and Sexton will cost NAZ and Dilly. That brings in an entirely different conversation: how untouchable is NAZ?

I'm generally a no to trading Naz but if the deal were to bring in a player to take his spot in the rotation I would consider it

Well, the trade becomes NAZ and Dilly for Monk and SloMo. SloMo and Baby Deer take up NAZ's minutes. I am so onboard with this trade. But it is mostly my conjecture. There is not much reporting that suggests the Wolves are checking into Monk. But logically, if the Wolves are sniffing around Sexton, why wouldn't they also check out Monk who is 200k cheaper?

[Lipoli390]

The problem with Monk or Sexton is it becomes a 3 for 1 proposition unless you are putting Donte in the deal and that's not happening. Can the Wolves cobble together enough players to fill the roster if they trade Mike, Rob and say Lenny for one of those 2 and stay under the 2nd apron?

The salaries of White or one of the Jones bros or even Dosunmu is a much cleaner fit. The choice is likely a numbers game. If I had to guess White is out since the team will want to keep Mike around. Rob and Lenny for Jones, Jones or Ayo or some other similarly priced player is my bet.

It's my belief that both Monk and Sexton will cost NAZ and Dilly. That brings in an entirely different conversation: how untouchable is NAZ?

Naz for Monk or Sexton would be one of the dumbest trades I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen a lot of really stupid deals, especially by this franchise.

Salary matches for either of the Jones brothers is fairly easy. Rob straight up for Tre Jones works as would swapping both Rob and Miller for Tre. Tyus is slightly more complicated but very doable. Getting Tyus shouldn’t cost that much. He’s about to turn 30, is not as good as Tre, is having a bad season and is playing a pretty crowded position once Suggs gets back. Before Suggs’ injury Tyus was averaging about the same number of Minutes as Rob. I wouldn’t give up Rob for Tyus. I’d offer Conley instead. I think they’d value a veteran PG like Conley who wouldn’t need to play much behind Suggs and Black.

I continue to hold the view that we should move forward with the guys we have and grab the best glue guy available off the waiver wire in February. I’d give Conley’s minutes to Dilly for an extended run over the next few weeks but have both Donte and Bones ahead of Dilly in the rotation. We’re in 4th place and lost two close games to top division rivals, one without Ant, the other without Naz or Rudy. We have a relatively easy stretch coming up that will likely tell the tale for this team.

If we are going to make a deal, I’d try to get one of the Jones brothers. Mike for Tyus makes a lot of sense as Tyus would probably be an upgrade over Mike given the level of Mike’s play this season. Keeping Rob would given him more runway here to become the player TC though he’d become when he drafted him for the Wolves or at least enhance his trade value a bit for an off-season deal next summer.