If we lose this one, I'll become a Pistons fan: Warriors/Wolves GDT

[KiwiMatt]

Thought it was interesting Julius Randle only played 22 minutes tonight. Felt more like Finch sitting him for an erratic performance as opposed to resting him in a scheduled win.

Randle looked pretty sour sitting on the bench, even by his standards. Meanwhile the rest of the squad seemed in good spirits.

[Lipoli390]

Dilly 5 minutes, 0-1, 1 ast, 2 turnovers. Might be the worst to ever do it in a wolves uniform

You can tell all that from a 5 minute stint of a 21 year old who hasn’t played more than 5 minutes in the last 2 weeks? Do you recall watching Darko? Maybe you're not old enough to remember Felton Spencer.

[kekgeek]

Conley 21 minutes, 0-4, 2ast, 0 turnovers.

Yes, Conley has been terrible this year. Does not change the fact the Dilly might be the worst player to put on a wolves jersey ever

Actually it does. If you have two players performing at the same level and one guy could be the future pg while the other is done at the end of the year, it seems idiotic to be playing the old guy. That tells me what the likely problem is. As another poster posed, why isn't Dilly getting minutes in the lower league? If you are only going to play him during garbage time it seems silly to have him up here.

There can be a ton of reasons for that.
1. Does Dilly and his agent want to play in the G league, does dilly think he is too good for that
2. If dilly plays bad in the g league does that kill his already declining trade value
3. If he gets hurt in the g league does that eliminate trades that happen

Dilly has played in 35 career games where he has gotten 10 plus minutes and he has scored double digits 6 times. Dilly is shooting 6% worse from the field than Culver worst shooting season of his career.

The wolves are required to play Dilly with Rudy because if they don’t the wolves defense with dilly and without Rudy falls to a 3rd percentile defense.

There is no offensive upside at the moment with dilly so Finch is taking the higher floor in Conley because he will not turn it over and will be in the right spot defensively (Conley is also a bad option this year)

Like I think if you take the context of other players who could have been drafted around them. Dilly is arguably the worst player the wolves have ever taken in the first round (Ebi and Patton are the others) and the wolves gave up 2 1sts for dilly.

This does not mean dilly career is written but besides a career ending injury you can’t have a worse start

[kekgeek]

Dilly 5 minutes, 0-1, 1 ast, 2 turnovers. Might be the worst to ever do it in a wolves uniform

You can tell all that from a 5 minute stint of a 21 year old who hasn’t played more than 5 minutes in the last 2 weeks? Do you recall watching Darko? Maybe you're not old enough to remember Felton Spencer.

Lip he was shooting under 35% from the floor and 30% from 3 when he was getting rotation minutes. Taking out garbage time he is leads the wolves to a 4th percentile offense, when he doesn’t play with Rudy the wolves get outscored by 21 points per 100 possessions. He has an under 2 to 1 ast to turnover ratio as a PG, he’s one of the smallest players in the league. He is shooting 6% worse than Culver’s worst season of his career.

He might figure it out but sorry that I expect more out of a top 10 pick that they gave up 2 first for that his only value is his contact for trade filler to not be god awful every single time he plays no matter if it’s in rotation minutes or garbage time.

[kekgeek]

Interesting Chris Finch quotes

Asked Chris Finch about Anthony Edwards being a late scratch because of the foot injury maintenence. Said he also found out late.

"It was news to me, honestly. He had pain from the foot that's been troubling him."


Finch wasn't sure if it'd be likely for Edwards to sit one end of back to backs (Wolves have another one Wed. and Thurs).

Finch: "That’s not been communicated to me, but again, I haven't talked really to the performance team since the decision was made to sit him tonight."

[DNatagal]

Yes, Conley has been terrible this year. Does not change the fact the Dilly might be the worst player to put on a wolves jersey ever

Actually it does. If you have two players performing at the same level and one guy could be the future pg while the other is done at the end of the year, it seems idiotic to be playing the old guy. That tells me what the likely problem is. As another poster posed, why isn't Dilly getting minutes in the lower league? If you are only going to play him during garbage time it seems silly to have him up here.

There can be a ton of reasons for that.
1. Does Dilly and his agent want to play in the G league, does dilly think he is too good for that
2. If dilly plays bad in the g league does that kill his already declining trade value
3. If he gets hurt in the g league does that eliminate trades that happen

Dilly has played in 35 career games where he has gotten 10 plus minutes and he has scored double digits 6 times. Dilly is shooting 6% worse from the field than Culver worst shooting season of his career.

The wolves are required to play Dilly with Rudy because if they don’t the wolves defense with dilly and without Rudy falls to a 3rd percentile defense.

There is no offensive upside at the moment with dilly so Finch is taking the higher floor in Conley because he will not turn it over and will be in the right spot defensively (Conley is also a bad option this year)

Like I think if you take the context of other players who could have been drafted around them. Dilly is arguably the worst player the wolves have ever taken in the first round (Ebi and Patton are the others) and the wolves gave up 2 1sts for dilly.

This does not mean dilly career is written but besides a career ending injury you can’t have a worse start

Sorry Kek, but these reasons you listed sound more like excuses than reasons.
1. I would think that a young guy who wants to play and show he can play well, would want any opportunity to do it.
2. Can his trade value be any lower?
3. Possible injuries to a player who cannot get in the game? What difference would it make? He gets hurt and the Wolves could call someone up with the open roster slot. If course that new player wouldn't have the chance to reach the floor either, so again, nothing changes with Finch at the helm.

Dilly needs minutes playing. Lots of minutes. If he was still at Kentucky he would be playing. Could he petition to go back? Isn't there a kid trying to do just that in the court system?

[rapsuperstar31]

Dilly 5 minutes, 0-1, 1 ast, 2 turnovers. Might be the worst to ever do it in a wolves uniform

You can tell all that from a 5 minute stint of a 21 year old who hasn’t played more than 5 minutes in the last 2 weeks? Do you recall watching Darko? Maybe you're not old enough to remember Felton Spencer.

Lip he was shooting under 35% from the floor and 30% from 3 when he was getting rotation minutes. Taking out garbage time he is leads the wolves to a 4th percentile offense, when he doesn’t play with Rudy the wolves get outscored by 21 points per 100 possessions. He has an under 2 to 1 ast to turnover ratio as a PG, he’s one of the smallest players in the league. He is shooting 6% worse than Culver’s worst season of his career.

He might figure it out but sorry that I expect more out of a top 10 pick that they gave up 2 first for that his only value is his contact for trade filler to not be god awful every single time he plays no matter if it’s in rotation minutes or garbage time.

Not sure if the poster on reddit that said this is is correct, but.
"Mike Conley has shot 31.7% over his last 60 games, 25% in his last 20 games, and 6.3% in the last 5 games "

[rapsuperstar31]

Interesting Chris Finch quotes

Asked Chris Finch about Anthony Edwards being a late scratch because of the foot injury maintenence. Said he also found out late.

"It was news to me, honestly. He had pain from the foot that's been troubling him."


Finch wasn't sure if it'd be likely for Edwards to sit one end of back to backs (Wolves have another one Wed. and Thurs).

Finch: "That’s not been communicated to me, but again, I haven't talked really to the performance team since the decision was made to sit him tonight."

I think that foot is really bothering him, and it may be why he's taking it too easy on defense.

[kekgeek]

Actually it does. If you have two players performing at the same level and one guy could be the future pg while the other is done at the end of the year, it seems idiotic to be playing the old guy. That tells me what the likely problem is. As another poster posed, why isn't Dilly getting minutes in the lower league? If you are only going to play him during garbage time it seems silly to have him up here.

There can be a ton of reasons for that.
1. Does Dilly and his agent want to play in the G league, does dilly think he is too good for that
2. If dilly plays bad in the g league does that kill his already declining trade value
3. If he gets hurt in the g league does that eliminate trades that happen

Dilly has played in 35 career games where he has gotten 10 plus minutes and he has scored double digits 6 times. Dilly is shooting 6% worse from the field than Culver worst shooting season of his career.

The wolves are required to play Dilly with Rudy because if they don’t the wolves defense with dilly and without Rudy falls to a 3rd percentile defense.

There is no offensive upside at the moment with dilly so Finch is taking the higher floor in Conley because he will not turn it over and will be in the right spot defensively (Conley is also a bad option this year)

Like I think if you take the context of other players who could have been drafted around them. Dilly is arguably the worst player the wolves have ever taken in the first round (Ebi and Patton are the others) and the wolves gave up 2 1sts for dilly.

This does not mean dilly career is written but besides a career ending injury you can’t have a worse start

Sorry Kek, but these reasons you listed sound more like excuses than reasons.
1. I would think that a young guy who wants to play and show he can play well, would want any opportunity to do it.
2. Can his trade value be any lower?
3. Possible injuries to a player who cannot get in the game? What difference would it make? He gets hurt and the Wolves could call someone up with the open roster slot. If course that new player wouldn't have the chance to reach the floor either, so again, nothing changes with Finch at the helm.

Dilly needs minutes playing. Lots of minutes. If he was still at Kentucky he would be playing. Could he petition to go back? Isn't there a kid trying to do just that in the court system?

1. In the Chris Finch era young players Naz, Jaden, Vando, Wendell Moore, Bolmaro, miller, Garza, Rocco, Minott, Clark, Beringer have had a stint in the G League. The only 2 that have not are Ant and Dilly. I think it’s completely fair to speculate that Dilly and his representation do not want him down in the G league because he is the only young player outlier the wolves have on how they treat the G League.
2. Yes his value can still go down. Right now there is still he has not played enough hope as a former top 10 pick. If he goes to the G league and stinks there he becomes just a contract.
3. The trade deadline is less then 2 weeks away, if Dilly got hurt in Iowa that might end any trade we have with teams like the bucks, bulls or hornets if dilly can’t play because he is hurt.


To respond how bad Mike Conley is shooting post. I 100% agree he is playing terrible and is not a good option but he turns the ball over half as less as dilly in double the minutes, the wolves are 3.9 pts better per 100 possessions with Conley compared to Dilly and 10.9 pts per 100 possessions better on offense compared to dilly.

It’s not like putting Dilly in the game you have a wide variance of outcomes. You either get God awful where he misses every shot, turns it over and they have to play Rudy with him to survive on D or his upside is the current version Mike where he misses every shot, does not turn it over and is passible on D.

I would agree you all if he had a couple of games where dilly showed his upside was outweighed Mike Floor but currently dilly upside is Mike right now because dilly can’t put the ball in the hoop

[FNG]

Interesting Chris Finch quotes

Asked Chris Finch about Anthony Edwards being a late scratch because of the foot injury maintenence. Said he also found out late.

"It was news to me, honestly. He had pain from the foot that's been troubling him."


Finch wasn't sure if it'd be likely for Edwards to sit one end of back to backs (Wolves have another one Wed. and Thurs).

Finch: "That’s not been communicated to me, but again, I haven't talked really to the performance team since the decision was made to sit him tonight."

I think that foot is really bothering him, and it may be why he's taking it too easy on defense.

Could be. Hope not though...we need a healthy Ant down the stretch, and especially when he picks up his defense in the playoffs.

Do we need him though? We lose to the warriors by 26 with him playing and beat them by 25 with him out...that's a 51 point swing, and I can't think of any other variables that might have affected the outcomes . Seriously though, what a couple crappy games for the fans the past two days...glad I wasn't there.

Last night didn't tell us much, but I think the next game against Dallas will be crucial. They'll be well rested after their game Sunday was postponed, but they are really banged up. We need to win that one with a scheduled loss likely the next day in OkC.