Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

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Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

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mjs34 wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 11:30 am
FNG wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 8:13 am
Q-is-here wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 7:29 am Quick summary:

- Ant and Jaden having career years in a couple of statistical categories.

- Randle's numbers going in the wrong direction.

- Ayo with the worst net rating, albeit his Wolves sample size is small. Hopefully last night begins a trend.

- Bones quietly having a career year in terms of playing winning basketball. One area he's been really strong in is keeping his TOs down. He's been a safe pair of hands so far.

- DDV and Rudy just continuing to play rock solid basketball. We're getting great value from them considering their salaries. We saw what happens to the defense when Rudy doesn't play. He is keeping us in the top 10 practically by himself.
Thanks for this, Q...terrific feature of this board. So interesting how different players rank differently depending on the measure.

I continue to marvel at Donte...the game may have been too late for you last night, but he was really fun to watch. He's added some Clark-like disruption to his defensive game...he was credited with only 2 steals last night, but there were several times his activity blew up Clipper offensive sets. His activity level is such a contrast to that of Ju's and Ant's. We get down on him sometimes when his shot is off...he can be streaky. But he is not streaky at all on a seasonal basis...this is the 4th consecutive season in which his 3-point percentage has been within 1 percentage point of 40%, on high volume. It's no surprise that he leads the team in both net rating and on/off. Such a valuable player for us.

Yes, Ju's numbers are trending down, and his defense remains spotty. But I'm not losing sight of his raw stats, which highlight how important he is to the team: first in assists, second in PPG, and second in rebounds. Plus something else that Jon K tweeted about yesterday: Ju ranks 4th in the Association in offensive on/off behind Ball, Joker and Murray...pretty good company to be associated with! It's so odd though to have two guys on the team who are so productive on offense (in totally different ways) but so ineffective generally on defense. Ant's disinterest and ineffectiveness in guarding Derrick Jones Jr. last night...a below average offensive player...kept the injured Clips in a game they didn't deserve to be in. We can't afford to have two unbalanced one-way players in the starting lineup, and since Ant isn't going anywhere, we can expect TC to deal Ju in the offseason.

Doesn't this mean Rudy has to go as well. The guy can't make a basket outside of 3 feet, and those have to be spoon fed to him. If the NBA had a more realistic way of scoring turnovers Rudy would have an additional 2-3 per game.
Your dislike of Rudy is borderline irrational because it flies in the face of the data. When he's off the floor, the team offense is 2.8 points per 100 possessions better. That's hardly much of a jump considering that the frontcourt are two almost 100% offensively oriented players in Julius and Reid when Rudy sits. Wouldn't you think the offense would be much better with such an albatross like Rudy on the bench and a skilled shooter like Naz in the game for him??

Meanwhile opponents score a whopping 10 points more per 100 possessions when he's on the bench.

You're smart enough to do the math. This has been a consistent theme throughout his tenure in Minnesota. And we saw what happens when Joan started for him against an Embiid-less Philly team. Our defense completely fell apart and Beringer couldn't stay on the floor.
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Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

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Q-is-here wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 12:11 pm
mjs34 wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 11:30 am
FNG wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 8:13 am

Thanks for this, Q...terrific feature of this board. So interesting how different players rank differently depending on the measure.

I continue to marvel at Donte...the game may have been too late for you last night, but he was really fun to watch. He's added some Clark-like disruption to his defensive game...he was credited with only 2 steals last night, but there were several times his activity blew up Clipper offensive sets. His activity level is such a contrast to that of Ju's and Ant's. We get down on him sometimes when his shot is off...he can be streaky. But he is not streaky at all on a seasonal basis...this is the 4th consecutive season in which his 3-point percentage has been within 1 percentage point of 40%, on high volume. It's no surprise that he leads the team in both net rating and on/off. Such a valuable player for us.

Yes, Ju's numbers are trending down, and his defense remains spotty. But I'm not losing sight of his raw stats, which highlight how important he is to the team: first in assists, second in PPG, and second in rebounds. Plus something else that Jon K tweeted about yesterday: Ju ranks 4th in the Association in offensive on/off behind Ball, Joker and Murray...pretty good company to be associated with! It's so odd though to have two guys on the team who are so productive on offense (in totally different ways) but so ineffective generally on defense. Ant's disinterest and ineffectiveness in guarding Derrick Jones Jr. last night...a below average offensive player...kept the injured Clips in a game they didn't deserve to be in. We can't afford to have two unbalanced one-way players in the starting lineup, and since Ant isn't going anywhere, we can expect TC to deal Ju in the offseason.

Doesn't this mean Rudy has to go as well. The guy can't make a basket outside of 3 feet, and those have to be spoon fed to him. If the NBA had a more realistic way of scoring turnovers Rudy would have an additional 2-3 per game.
Your dislike of Rudy is borderline irrational because it flies in the face of the data. When he's off the floor, the team offense is 2.8 points per 100 possessions better. That's hardly much of a jump considering that the frontcourt are two almost 100% offensively oriented players in Julius and Reid when Rudy sits. Wouldn't you think the offense would be much better with such an albatross like Rudy on the bench and a skilled shooter like Naz in the game for him??

Meanwhile opponents score a whopping 10 points more per 100 possessions when he's on the bench.

You're smart enough to do the math. This has been a consistent theme throughout his tenure in Minnesota. And we saw what happens when Joan started for him against an Embiid-less Philly team. Our defense completely fell apart and Beringer couldn't stay on the floor.
I don't dislike Rudy at all I'm just realistic about what his value is and more importantly what skills he possesses. You failed to address any points in my thread, and instead ramble off with some worthless noisy stats.

Are you not curious as to why we never heard Rudy mentioned in a possible trade for Giannis? I heard one so called expert after another talk about Ant and Jaden being off limits and that Milwaukee didn't want to go into full rebuild mode, but never anything about trading for Rudy. Has anyone ever inquired about Rudy? Who were we trying to out bid when we traded for him?

If those stats you keep hanging your hat on meant something wouldn't there be some interest from other teams? I hear on this forum repeatedly that there is no market for Rudy, but why is that? We are certainly not the only team hoping to win a title over the next couple of seasons.

In reference to Joan, are you suggesting that our defense hasn't fallen apart with Rudy playing? We gave up 120 pts to the Blazers the other night. Joan was a -6 against Philly while the team lost by 27. Does that mean that Joan was +15 on/off that game?
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Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

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mjs34 wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 6:47 pm
Q-is-here wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 12:11 pm
mjs34 wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 11:30 am


Doesn't this mean Rudy has to go as well. The guy can't make a basket outside of 3 feet, and those have to be spoon fed to him. If the NBA had a more realistic way of scoring turnovers Rudy would have an additional 2-3 per game.
Your dislike of Rudy is borderline irrational because it flies in the face of the data. When he's off the floor, the team offense is 2.8 points per 100 possessions better. That's hardly much of a jump considering that the frontcourt are two almost 100% offensively oriented players in Julius and Reid when Rudy sits. Wouldn't you think the offense would be much better with such an albatross like Rudy on the bench and a skilled shooter like Naz in the game for him??

Meanwhile opponents score a whopping 10 points more per 100 possessions when he's on the bench.

You're smart enough to do the math. This has been a consistent theme throughout his tenure in Minnesota. And we saw what happens when Joan started for him against an Embiid-less Philly team. Our defense completely fell apart and Beringer couldn't stay on the floor.
I don't dislike Rudy at all I'm just realistic about what his value is and more importantly what skills he possesses. You failed to address any points in my thread, and instead ramble off with some worthless noisy stats.

Are you not curious as to why we never heard Rudy mentioned in a possible trade for Giannis? I heard one so called expert after another talk about Ant and Jaden being off limits and that Milwaukee didn't want to go into full rebuild mode, but never anything about trading for Rudy. Has anyone ever inquired about Rudy? Who were we trying to out bid when we traded for him?

If those stats you keep hanging your hat on meant something wouldn't there be some interest from other teams? I hear on this forum repeatedly that there is no market for Rudy, but why is that? We are certainly not the only team hoping to win a title over the next couple of seasons.

In reference to Joan, are you suggesting that our defense hasn't fallen apart with Rudy playing? We gave up 120 pts to the Blazers the other night. Joan was a -6 against Philly while the team lost by 27. Does that mean that Joan was +15 on/off that game?
They are only "worthless noisy stats" because they fly in the face of what you want to believe about Rudy, so you just dismiss them.

On your original points about Rudy, I agree he doesn't have a shot outside of 3-feet and has poor hands - there is nothing to dispute about that. But he is elite at converting at the rim when he does secure the ball, is our best offensive rebounder, and has mastered the "screen assist". He does all sorts of dirty work on both ends of the court that we take for granted at this point.

For there to be a market for Rudy the Wolves would have to actually make him available. He is in his 30s now, which yes, does limit the market to teams that really want to win now whereas Jaden is marketable to both teams that want to win now and rebuild.

In the aggregate our defense hasn't fallen apart when Rudy plays. He's the ONLY reason we have a top 10 defense right now. Of course there are individual games where he does better than others. Have you seen our defense when he sits??? Oh, that's right, it's just a bunch of noise and bad luck that other teams score so easily when Rudy sits.

As for Joan, he could only play 16 minutes against the Sixers because he couldn't stay on the floor. Being able to play elite defense without getting into foul trouble is one of Rudy's greatest attributes. Joan will improve, but he's a long ways from being able to fill Rudy's shoes. Do you honestly believe he's ready to anchor a playoff defense 30 MPG??
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Q-is-here wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 7:53 pm They are only "worthless noisy stats" because they fly in the face of what you want to believe about Rudy, so you just dismiss them.

On your original points about Rudy, I agree he doesn't have a shot outside of 3-feet and has poor hands - there is nothing to dispute about that. But he is elite at converting at the rim when he does secure the ball, is our best offensive rebounder, and has mastered the "screen assist". He does all sorts of dirty work on both ends of the court that we take for granted at this point.

For there to be a market for Rudy the Wolves would have to actually make him available. He is in his 30s now, which yes, does limit the market to teams that really want to win now whereas Jaden is marketable to both teams that want to win now and rebuild.

In the aggregate our defense hasn't fallen apart when Rudy plays. He's the ONLY reason we have a top 10 defense right now. Of course there are individual games where he does better than others. Have you seen our defense when he sits??? Oh, that's right, it's just a bunch of noise and bad luck that other teams score so easily when Rudy sits.

As for Joan, he could only play 16 minutes against the Sixers because he couldn't stay on the floor. Being able to play elite defense without getting into foul trouble is one of Rudy's greatest attributes. Joan will improve, but he's a long ways from being able to fill Rudy's shoes. Do you honestly believe he's ready to anchor a playoff defense 30 MPG??
They don't fly in the face of what I believe. I think Rudy is a great defender, but I also realize he has limitations. As far as market goes, we haven't made Jaden available either but they still want him in a trade package.

I guess Jaden has nothing to do with us being a good defense. He may be the only reason we pulled out the win against the blazers. I guess your premise is that when the defense plays well it is due to Rudy, but the rest of the lineups fault when we don't.

You might want to pay attention to who Rudy guards when we play against other good centers because it hasn't been Rudy most nights, and when it is he has gotten into foul trouble as well. Would getting suspended be part of Rudy staying on the floor?

When you ask the silly question about Joan you should also include what we could add salary wise with Rudy's 35 mil. Zubac just got traded and only makes 20 mil.
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Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

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mjs34 wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 8:50 pm
Q-is-here wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2026 7:53 pm They are only "worthless noisy stats" because they fly in the face of what you want to believe about Rudy, so you just dismiss them.

On your original points about Rudy, I agree he doesn't have a shot outside of 3-feet and has poor hands - there is nothing to dispute about that. But he is elite at converting at the rim when he does secure the ball, is our best offensive rebounder, and has mastered the "screen assist". He does all sorts of dirty work on both ends of the court that we take for granted at this point.

For there to be a market for Rudy the Wolves would have to actually make him available. He is in his 30s now, which yes, does limit the market to teams that really want to win now whereas Jaden is marketable to both teams that want to win now and rebuild.

In the aggregate our defense hasn't fallen apart when Rudy plays. He's the ONLY reason we have a top 10 defense right now. Of course there are individual games where he does better than others. Have you seen our defense when he sits??? Oh, that's right, it's just a bunch of noise and bad luck that other teams score so easily when Rudy sits.

As for Joan, he could only play 16 minutes against the Sixers because he couldn't stay on the floor. Being able to play elite defense without getting into foul trouble is one of Rudy's greatest attributes. Joan will improve, but he's a long ways from being able to fill Rudy's shoes. Do you honestly believe he's ready to anchor a playoff defense 30 MPG??
They don't fly in the face of what I believe. I think Rudy is a great defender, but I also realize he has limitations. As far as market goes, we haven't made Jaden available either but they still want him in a trade package.

I guess Jaden has nothing to do with us being a good defense. He may be the only reason we pulled out the win against the blazers. I guess your premise is that when the defense plays well it is due to Rudy, but the rest of the lineups fault when we don't.

You might want to pay attention to who Rudy guards when we play against other good centers because it hasn't been Rudy most nights, and when it is he has gotten into foul trouble as well. Would getting suspended be part of Rudy staying on the floor?

When you ask the silly question about Joan you should also include what we could add salary wise with Rudy's 35 mil. Zubac just got traded and only makes 20 mil.
Well, unfortunately for you your stuck with Rudy at least for the rest of this season and into the playoffs. I can certainly see him being traded this offseason if it's necessary to land a player like Giannis, but otherwise, you will probably have to suffer through watching him at least another season beyond this one! And some day you may look back and realize that the Timberwolves most successful period in franchise history coincided with his tenure here.
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Rudy sometimes drives me crazy, but I'm 100% in his corner on his value. The stats back that up, and those stats reflect his effort and focus.

If Ant, Julius, and Naz gave even 50% of Rudy's effort and attention to defense and dirty work, we'd have won 5 more games by now. If they gave 70% of his effort, I think we'd be right there with OKC as contenders.

Rudy has terrible hands and can't shoot, but at least he's out there fucking fighting for us.

We can't hate Rudy for things he can't control, but then let Ant, Julius, Naz, and others off the hook for what they can--their effort.

Not trying to extend an argument here.

But I think the gap between Rudy's perceived value and his actual value is probably the biggest in the entire NBA, and Q's emphasis on stats here reminds us that actual value is what counts.

I think we tend to see an awkward guy like Rudy and we mentally contrast him with the cool guys, and then for some reason we dismiss his effort (and the results that follow) like he's the weird dork in class studying "too hard" for the test. But the problem isn't Rudy, or the weird dork in class. It's us. We should respect their effort and expect it from everyone. And the stats don't lie. Rudy's effort and focus help us significantly.
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