Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

[Coolbreeze44]

Since joining the Wolves, Ayo has a net rating of:

+7.5 (114.6 / 107.1)

As a Bull the numbers stood at:

-3.8 (111.1 / 114.8)

An 11 point swing in 19 games. Depending on how this season finishes out, is this the greatest trade deadline move in franchise history?

If he can become our point guard, YES

[AussieWolf3]

Ant just isn't a great "two-man game" type of player. Jokic and Murray are probably the best ever at it.

I've always felt that Ant is the perfect fit for the Celtics offense over the last few years, which is (mostly) a 5-out offense predicated on hunting mis-matches and breaking down guys one on one, with ball movement coming as a result of breaking down the defense versus causing the breakdown. How much of a two-man game do Tatum and Brown play? Hardly none. But they each take turns breaking down whoever has the advantage and giving each other much-needed breaks. It's not beautiful basketball, but it works because the Celtics can really spread the floor with shooters.

I think the best fit for Ant offensively are guys that have some combination of handles, passing, and shooting. Conley (before this year), DDV, and Ayo all seem to check these boxes to varying degrees. Ayo may ultimately be the best of them all; time will tell.

I think you're right about the lack 2 man play in Ant's game, or at least in regard to a big.

Obviously it was a bit unfair to compare them to Murray and Jokic hehe.

I will say that Ant seems to find better synergy with other guard's and he's also very adapt at using Rudy's screens. So maybe I'm wish casting but I can't help but wonder if you subbed Rudy with another good screener but with better handle and play making. Like even a Hartenstein type, who can do just a little more in the short roll. Even more so, I really don't understand why a player with Julius's strength and speed can't do this!

Ant often, correctly, answers double teams with a pocket pass to Rudy with seemingly 50/50 results. Why is it that they can't ever do that with Randle or Naz? I'm asking seriously, I'm not enough of a ball guy to know the answer there. Are there good Xs and Os reasons or is it a poor skill match?

Randle and Naz aren't big on rolling to the rim because neither are lob threats, which takes out an option on how to react to the defensive scheme. The ideal roller can both catch a pocket pass AND a lob for the dunk. One of those isn't available in their case.

That being said, I've often seen Conley run "pick and roll lite" with these guys as a way to initiate the offense, where they set the screen and then Conley gets the ball back to them almost immediately, but still on the perimeter. Ant has done a little of this too when Finch calls for Randle to get the ball. It gives them a bit more space to operate in since their defender is helping on Conley(or Ant) for a second or two. But they almost never roll all the way to the rim. Rudy and Joan are really the only two pure rim-runners on the team.

I'm not necessarily talking about rolling to the rim tho. I'm talking about possessions where Ant is facing a double or heavy ball pressure on the perimeter and he passes it inside to Rudy around the top of the key. It's become consistent enough of a thing that it's basically a feature of the offense. The problem is that Rudy is so limited as an offensive threat --- it works out sometimes but it just isn't that dynamic.

So the question for me is --- why can't you switch Rudy for Randle in that action, especially when Rudy is off the floor? Maybe they've done this more than I realize but in my head it should really bust up the doubles and heavy gap defenses. Am I wrong? To often the ball just moves laterally around the perimeter till someone ends up with a grenade.

Why not get it to Randle with 4 shooters and let him playmake out of that or take advantage of mismatches?

[Q-is-here]

I think you're right about the lack 2 man play in Ant's game, or at least in regard to a big.

Obviously it was a bit unfair to compare them to Murray and Jokic hehe.

I will say that Ant seems to find better synergy with other guard's and he's also very adapt at using Rudy's screens. So maybe I'm wish casting but I can't help but wonder if you subbed Rudy with another good screener but with better handle and play making. Like even a Hartenstein type, who can do just a little more in the short roll. Even more so, I really don't understand why a player with Julius's strength and speed can't do this!

Ant often, correctly, answers double teams with a pocket pass to Rudy with seemingly 50/50 results. Why is it that they can't ever do that with Randle or Naz? I'm asking seriously, I'm not enough of a ball guy to know the answer there. Are there good Xs and Os reasons or is it a poor skill match?

Randle and Naz aren't big on rolling to the rim because neither are lob threats, which takes out an option on how to react to the defensive scheme. The ideal roller can both catch a pocket pass AND a lob for the dunk. One of those isn't available in their case.

That being said, I've often seen Conley run "pick and roll lite" with these guys as a way to initiate the offense, where they set the screen and then Conley gets the ball back to them almost immediately, but still on the perimeter. Ant has done a little of this too when Finch calls for Randle to get the ball. It gives them a bit more space to operate in since their defender is helping on Conley(or Ant) for a second or two. But they almost never roll all the way to the rim. Rudy and Joan are really the only two pure rim-runners on the team.

I'm not necessarily talking about rolling to the rim tho. I'm talking about possessions where Ant is facing a double or heavy ball pressure on the perimeter and he passes it inside to Rudy around the top of the key. It's become consistent enough of a thing that it's basically a feature of the offense. The problem is that Rudy is so limited as an offensive threat --- it works out sometimes but it just isn't that dynamic.

So the question for me is --- why can't you switch Rudy for Randle in that action, especially when Rudy is off the floor? Maybe they've done this more than I realize but in my head it should really bust up the doubles and heavy gap defenses. Am I wrong? To often the ball just moves laterally around the perimeter till someone ends up with a grenade.

Why not get it to Randle with 4 shooters and let him playmake out of that or take advantage of mismatches?

The reason that pass to Rudy on the short roll is available is because it's Rudy and the defense would rather blitz Ant and force Rudy to make a play (which like you said has uneven results). I doubt they blitz as much if it's Naz or Randle setting that screen. They might hedge and recover a lot more quickly rather than doing a hard blitz. Naz and Randle are much more dangerous from that spot than Rudy is.

[AussieWolf3]

Randle and Naz aren't big on rolling to the rim because neither are lob threats, which takes out an option on how to react to the defensive scheme. The ideal roller can both catch a pocket pass AND a lob for the dunk. One of those isn't available in their case.

That being said, I've often seen Conley run "pick and roll lite" with these guys as a way to initiate the offense, where they set the screen and then Conley gets the ball back to them almost immediately, but still on the perimeter. Ant has done a little of this too when Finch calls for Randle to get the ball. It gives them a bit more space to operate in since their defender is helping on Conley(or Ant) for a second or two. But they almost never roll all the way to the rim. Rudy and Joan are really the only two pure rim-runners on the team.

I'm not necessarily talking about rolling to the rim tho. I'm talking about possessions where Ant is facing a double or heavy ball pressure on the perimeter and he passes it inside to Rudy around the top of the key. It's become consistent enough of a thing that it's basically a feature of the offense. The problem is that Rudy is so limited as an offensive threat --- it works out sometimes but it just isn't that dynamic.

So the question for me is --- why can't you switch Rudy for Randle in that action, especially when Rudy is off the floor? Maybe they've done this more than I realize but in my head it should really bust up the doubles and heavy gap defenses. Am I wrong? To often the ball just moves laterally around the perimeter till someone ends up with a grenade.

Why not get it to Randle with 4 shooters and let him playmake out of that or take advantage of mismatches?

The reason that pass to Rudy on the short roll is available is because it's Rudy and the defense would rather blitz Ant and force Rudy to make a play (which like you said has uneven results). I doubt they blitz as much if it's Naz or Randle setting that screen. They might hedge and recover a lot more quickly rather than doing a hard blitz. Naz and Randle are much more dangerous from that spot than Rudy is.

Ok that makes sense to me and is what I was suspecting. I want to pay attention to this in upcoming games, cause in my head --- why not bring Randle up and see if you can force his defender into making a mistake? If they over hedge toward Ant pass it to Randle. Or even if they stay disciplined before that pass, force them to move and react after a pass with Ant re-positioning for catch and shoot opportunities.

I know they can do this cause I've watched them do it, but I don't feel it happens often enough. Both of them should be able to benefit from each others skill sets more than they do imo

[AussieWolf3]

More Ayo bits:

In 128 minutes together; the Randle/Ant/Ayo 3 man lineup has a +26 Net RTG.

If you normalize for the low sample size their Net RTG is still a very good +7

[AbeVigodaLive]

Edwards with the Celtics...

Q is on to something there. He would fit in there very well. And with all the successes the Celtics have had with players and development... yikes.

[Q-is-here]

Here is the full regular season update.

PER - Very much individual box-score driven and rewards volume more than efficiency. Doesn't really account for defense. This tends to reward higher usage offensive players and guys that get lots of counting stats.
WS/48 - Combines individual box-score stats with team performance; tends to reward efficiency as much as volume; tries to apportion team performance to individual players, so a great team defense for example tends to lift all boats (or weight them down if the defense is poor).
VORP - Value over Replacement Player. This extrapolates from box score stats and takes into account actual minutes played, so it helps recognize that starters have to carry a bigger load.
Net Rating - Team points per 100 possessions minus opponent points per 100 possessions while player is on the floor, per NBA.com.

Player (in order of total minutes played) - PER/WS48/VORP/Net Rating
Randle - 18.4/.149/2.3/+4.0
DDV - 12.5/.100/1.7/+6.2
Rudy - 17.5/.176/1.8/+5.0
Jaden - 14.0/.109/1.0/+3.1
Ant - 21.8/.147/3.5/+3.5
Naz - 15.4/.097/1.5/+3.2
Ayo - 15.6/.132/0.6/+2.3
Bones - 15.1/.126//1.1/+5.2
SloMo - 12.7/.126/.3/-.5
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Others in and out of the rotation:
Conley - 9.4/.092/.2/+.2
Clark - 10.3/.090/-.1/+4.1
Shannon - 11.1/.090/-.2/-8.5
Beringer - 21.3/.222/.2/+2.3

[Q-is-here]

A few comments to recap the regular season performance of individuals:

- By most measures, Ant, Jaden, and Ayo had career years statistically.

- Naz regressed compared to last season and the year before. Nagging injuries may explain the dropoff (?). Regardless, he can no longer be counted on to keep improving when he's now been pretty stagnant for three straight seasons. He pretty much is what he is at this point.

- Ayo ended the season with a positive Net Rating, counting just his games with the Wolves. Yes!

- Beringer's advanced stats jump off the page, albeit in limited minutes. But I think we can all see the potential.

- Shannon (and perhaps Clark to a lesser degree) with a really disappointing season. He regained some confidence these last few games, but he was so far in the hole with his production levels that it didn't do much to lift up his overall season statistically.

- Randle and Rudy can be frustrating to watch at times, but both are clearly positive players. The question is whether ultimately moving one or both (and might as well throw Naz into this discussion) would yield a domino-effect of outcomes that would make us better, both in terms of how it affects other current players and what we get in return from trade(s).

[rapsuperstar31]

https://nbarankings.theringer.com/

The Ringer updated their top 100 players list for this season (so no injured players like Haliburton), and we have 7 guys in the top 100

#6 Ant
#44 Rudy
#46 Randle
#58 Jaden
#72 Naz
#93 Donte
#96 Ayo

Cleveland has 3 guys in the top 22, Boston 3 guys in the top 33, Lakers have 3 guys in the top 34, OKC has 3 guys in the top 35, San Antonio has 3 guys in the top 38, Denver has 3 guys in the top 39, New York has 3 guys in the top 40. Our 2nd best player is rated 44th, multiple other teams have their 2nd best player before our 2nd best player.

[AussieWolf3]

https://nbarankings.theringer.com/

The Ringer updated their top 100 players list for this season (so no injured players like Haliburton), and we have 7 guys in the top 100

#6 Ant
#44 Rudy
#46 Randle
#58 Jaden
#72 Naz
#93 Donte
#96 Ayo

Cleveland has 3 guys in the top 22, Boston 3 guys in the top 33, Lakers have 3 guys in the top 34, OKC has 3 guys in the top 35, San Antonio has 3 guys in the top 38, Denver has 3 guys in the top 39, New York has 3 guys in the top 40. Our 2nd best player is rated 44th, multiple other teams have their 2nd best player before our 2nd best player.

Interesting.

For what it's worth I'd say they're overrating Harden and Mobley for Cleveland

I really like Castle but I don't think he's earned 30 overall and Fox is good but overrated. The Spurs are where they are because of Wemby and their overwhelming amount of wing and guards.

I also think Jaden is underrated but that is mostly because of how the Wolves have to use him. If he was an off ball defender and #2 option he'd leap into the top 30 at least imo