Teddy Watch
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Teddy Watch
Since we have a bi-week. We will be hearing a lot of talk about QBs. Is Bradford done? Does Bridgewater take back his starting job? Do we look for a back if Kenuum is our starter and Bridgewater/Bradford are not looking like good options this year?
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bleedspeed177 wrote:Since we have a bi-week. We will be hearing a lot of talk about QBs. Is Bradford done? Does Bridgewater take back his starting job? Do we look for a back if Kenuum is our starter and Bridgewater/Bradford are not looking like good options this year?
I'd expect we continue to roll with Keenum until he loses us a game, assuming Bradford cannot get healthy. Which is the correct move. I'd like to see Bridgewater only get playing time in a game where we are winning handily in the 4th quarter. Ease him into real action. IF Bradford is healthy, he should immediately be the starter, but only if 100%. I do fear Bradford is done though. We cannot commit big $ to him. I'm hoping we draft a QB in the 1st-4th rounds this year. BPA in the 1st, and a total of 2 OL within the first 4 rounds.
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Playing for this year makes sense, and with that in mind Keenum remains under center unless Bradford gets healthy.
Playing for this year leaves them in a real bind this offseason! Keenum is a great backup, but not the guy you want to sign as your starter. Bradford is a great starting quarterback, when healthy, which we cannot count on with a $20M+ multi-year contract. Bridgewater was never more than a middle of the pack QB, and unless he plays there is no way to know if he can be that again, or more. Who do you sign this offseason?
How typical of the Vikings to be completely lost as to what they should do at the most important position in the game! Other than Tarkington, and maybe Culpepper (who was lost in career ending injury) they've never really had a franchise QB. They've had a few guys step in and play that role for a year or two, but no one who've owned that position. Sad.
Playing for this year leaves them in a real bind this offseason! Keenum is a great backup, but not the guy you want to sign as your starter. Bradford is a great starting quarterback, when healthy, which we cannot count on with a $20M+ multi-year contract. Bridgewater was never more than a middle of the pack QB, and unless he plays there is no way to know if he can be that again, or more. Who do you sign this offseason?
How typical of the Vikings to be completely lost as to what they should do at the most important position in the game! Other than Tarkington, and maybe Culpepper (who was lost in career ending injury) they've never really had a franchise QB. They've had a few guys step in and play that role for a year or two, but no one who've owned that position. Sad.
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TheSP wrote:Playing for this year makes sense, and with that in mind Keenum remains under center unless Bradford gets healthy.
Playing for this year leaves them in a real bind this offseason! Keenum is a great backup, but not the guy you want to sign as your starter. Bradford is a great starting quarterback, when healthy, which we cannot count on with a $20M+ multi-year contract. Bridgewater was never more than a middle of the pack QB, and unless he plays there is no way to know if he can be that again, or more. Who do you sign this offseason?
How typical of the Vikings to be completely lost as to what they should do at the most important position in the game! Other than Tarkington, and maybe Culpepper (who was lost in career ending injury) they've never really had a franchise QB. They've had a few guys step in and play that role for a year or two, but no one who've owned that position. Sad.
My money is on Dante. Oh wait I mean Brad Johnson.....I mean Wade Wilson is our Guy. Jeff George has a great arm. Maybe Farve has one more season. You just have to give up eventually.
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There are two QBs I wouldn't mind going after on a 3 or 4 year deal: Kirk Cousins and Jimmy Garoppolo. Cousins will cost a ton, but he is a franchise QB. Garoppolo should come cheaper, and I'm sure he's itching to start. I really like his game, and he has sat behind the best for his whole career. Mccarron potentially will be an UFA, but it looks like he is more likely to be under the RFA status, as he has not accrued a whole four years in the NFL yet (wasn't active to play until week 14 his rookie year). If Cousins and Garoppolo get signed, then I would definitely make an offer and see if Cincy matches (or try to work out a sign/trade).
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TheFuture wrote:There are two QBs I wouldn't mind going after on a 3 or 4 year deal: Kirk Cousins and Jimmy Garoppolo. Cousins will cost a ton, but he is a franchise QB. Garoppolo should come cheaper, and I'm sure he's itching to start. I really like his game, and he has sat behind the best for his whole career. Mccarron potentially will be an UFA, but it looks like he is more likely to be under the RFA status, as he has not accrued a whole four years in the NFL yet (wasn't active to play until week 14 his rookie year). If Cousins and Garoppolo get signed, then I would definitely make an offer and see if Cincy matches (or try to work out a sign/trade).
Garoppolo got traded to the 49ers so that's kinda interesting.
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thedoper wrote:TheSP wrote:Playing for this year makes sense, and with that in mind Keenum remains under center unless Bradford gets healthy.
Playing for this year leaves them in a real bind this offseason! Keenum is a great backup, but not the guy you want to sign as your starter. Bradford is a great starting quarterback, when healthy, which we cannot count on with a $20M+ multi-year contract. Bridgewater was never more than a middle of the pack QB, and unless he plays there is no way to know if he can be that again, or more. Who do you sign this offseason?
How typical of the Vikings to be completely lost as to what they should do at the most important position in the game! Other than Tarkington, and maybe Culpepper (who was lost in career ending injury) they've never really had a franchise QB. They've had a few guys step in and play that role for a year or two, but no one who've owned that position. Sad.
My money is on Dante. Oh wait I mean Brad Johnson.....I mean Wade Wilson is our Guy. Jeff George has a great arm. Maybe Farve has one more season. You just have to give up eventually.
Don't forget guys like Cunningham, Tommy Kramer and Rich Gannon.
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Jimmy Garoppolo to 49ers. Hoyer to Pats?
Hoyer would be a guy I would consider as a decent backup if we don't think Teddy is ready, but honestly we would have to give up Sloter and I don't see us doing that.
Hoyer would be a guy I would consider as a decent backup if we don't think Teddy is ready, but honestly we would have to give up Sloter and I don't see us doing that.
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I'm a big Bradford detractor at this point. His knee is probably suffering long term arthritis damage from two ACL surgeries. They haven't clearly stated exactly why. As a starter he's never had a winning season, never played in a playoff game, never made a pro bowl (even Teddy has) and consistently is a check down artist. 6.6 YPA which puts him down in the Trent Dilfer or Matt Cassel territory.
If Bradford was a 3rd round pick, he wouldn't have been given so many chances to start. He looks great in the red jersey but where he struggles is in the pocket. His pocket awareness and mobility has to be near the worst in the league. Meaning he is easy to sack, he doesn't move well, avoid or evade the rush. Slide or step up in the pocket well at all. So the offensive line looks worse then they really are.
Eventually a good QB gets it done after 7 years at some point. It would be atrocious to give a potentially never healthy again QB any sort of big contract especially considering he has never gotten it done when healthy.
If Bradford was a 3rd round pick, he wouldn't have been given so many chances to start. He looks great in the red jersey but where he struggles is in the pocket. His pocket awareness and mobility has to be near the worst in the league. Meaning he is easy to sack, he doesn't move well, avoid or evade the rush. Slide or step up in the pocket well at all. So the offensive line looks worse then they really are.
Eventually a good QB gets it done after 7 years at some point. It would be atrocious to give a potentially never healthy again QB any sort of big contract especially considering he has never gotten it done when healthy.
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WolvesFan21 wrote:I'm a big Bradford detractor at this point. His knee is probably suffering long term arthritis damage from two ACL surgeries. They haven't clearly stated exactly why. As a starter he's never had a winning season, never played in a playoff game, never made a pro bowl (even Teddy has) and consistently is a check down artist. 6.6 YPA which puts him down in the Trent Dilfer or Matt Cassel territory.
If Bradford was a 3rd round pick, he wouldn't have been given so many chances to start. He looks great in the red jersey but where he struggles is in the pocket. His pocket awareness and mobility has to be near the worst in the league. Meaning he is easy to sack, he doesn't move well, avoid or evade the rush. Slide or step up in the pocket well at all. So the offensive line looks worse then they really are.
Eventually a good QB gets it done after 7 years at some point. It would be atrocious to give a potentially never healthy again QB any sort of big contract especially considering he has never gotten it done when healthy.
I absolutely agree I don't know how anyone would feel good about Bradford being healthy again. I believe in his talent to some degree though. He has a good accurate arm and he can get the ball away quickly. The reason he keeps getting chances is he has had just enough success in his career (plus a carousel of coaches) to give rise to some hope he can actually do something. At this point though the injuries after 2 pretty healthy seasons in a row may basically end his career. Maybe someone throws a Glennon type 1 year deal at him while planning on drafting their guy of the future this offseason That's pretty much the best I can see and that's probably being too optimistic. I've always kinda liked him I didn't think he was a franchise guy. More of a averagish guy that could maybe get some better. For the right team like the Vikings that would have been good enough.