Sloter watch

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We have a thread for Teddy and now we have one for Kyle Sloter. Since his release, he signed with the Cardinals practice squad. They have fans wanting to move him to the 53 man roster to prevent teams from signing him.

This read is really good. It is worth a few minutes.
https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2019/9/4/20848910/cards-should-open-roster-slot-for-sloter

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Foles is out in Jacksonville will DeFlippo try to get Sloter?

https://thevikingage.com/2019/09/07/minnesota-vikings-never-sloter-chance-backup-job/
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-nfl-practice-squad-power-rankings-cardinals-quarterback-at-the-top-five-receivers-make-list/

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http://sportsagentblog.com/2019/09/12/quarterback-kyle-sloter-signs-with-vaynersports/

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Interesting. I wonder if he ever plays a snap in the regular season at this point.

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Interesting read.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/cfl-mvp-quarterback-bo-levi-mitchell-says-vikings-didnt-want-him-to-challenge-kirk-cousins

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Interesting read.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/cfl-mvp-quarterback-bo-levi-mitchell-says-vikings-didnt-want-him-to-challenge-kirk-cousins

Yes a guy that doesn't have an NFL job anywhere is mad that some NFL team (Or one guy in the organization) didn't think he was going to challenge a somewhat established starter. I'm not buying the Vikings were like no we want a crappy backup so we don't challenge Kirk. Yawn.

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Interesting read.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/cfl-mvp-quarterback-bo-levi-mitchell-says-vikings-didnt-want-him-to-challenge-kirk-cousins

Yes a guy that doesn't have an NFL job anywhere is mad that some NFL team (Or one guy in the organization) didn't think he was going to challenge a somewhat established starter. I'm not buying the Vikings were like no we want a crappy backup so we don't challenge Kirk. Yawn.

There is some smoke to that fire. There's no way a rational person watches this pre-season and has Mannion ahead of Sloter. With Sloter being 2 years younger playing at a similar if not better level it just didn't make any sense to stick with Mannion yet they did. They've basically cleared everything behind Kirk to the point he's the only guy you can play regardless of how bad he is because it's much worse behind him.

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Interesting read.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/cfl-mvp-quarterback-bo-levi-mitchell-says-vikings-didnt-want-him-to-challenge-kirk-cousins

Yes a guy that doesn't have an NFL job anywhere is mad that some NFL team (Or one guy in the organization) didn't think he was going to challenge a somewhat established starter. I'm not buying the Vikings were like no we want a crappy backup so we don't challenge Kirk. Yawn.

There is some smoke to that fire. There's no way a rational person watches this pre-season and has Mannion ahead of Sloter. With Sloter being 2 years younger playing at a similar if not better level it just didn't make any sense to stick with Mannion yet they did. They've basically cleared everything behind Kirk to the point he's the only guy you can play regardless of how bad he is because it's much worse behind him.

I disagree. Why? Again Sloter played less than 1 season incollege as a college QB. He has an awesome story and is obviously talented BUT the idea that he the. I kinda have basically put forth that he isn't really ready there is evidence to Back that up. Mannion played basically 4 years of college. Supposedly the smartest offensive wonderkind McVay has him around and he was even the backup last year. There were teams interested in signing Mannion in the offseason. Obviously there wasn't a huge market for him based on the contract he got. Sloter is on a PS. Teams miss on players all the time but the idea that Sloter is for sure better than Mannion I think is not certain. The Vikings don't exactly get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to QB evaluation BUT remember this was the organization that signed Keenum and people just ripped them for that saying he was a terrible backup...sure they did get lucky to some extent there but I think they saw some things that many fans didn't. What were Keenum's preseason stats like that year?

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Interesting read.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/cfl-mvp-quarterback-bo-levi-mitchell-says-vikings-didnt-want-him-to-challenge-kirk-cousins

Yes a guy that doesn't have an NFL job anywhere is mad that some NFL team (Or one guy in the organization) didn't think he was going to challenge a somewhat established starter. I'm not buying the Vikings were like no we want a crappy backup so we don't challenge Kirk. Yawn.

There is some smoke to that fire. There's no way a rational person watches this pre-season and has Mannion ahead of Sloter. With Sloter being 2 years younger playing at a similar if not better level it just didn't make any sense to stick with Mannion yet they did. They've basically cleared everything behind Kirk to the point he's the only guy you can play regardless of how bad he is because it's much worse behind him.

I disagree. Why? Again Sloter played less than 1 season incollege as a college QB. He has an awesome story and is obviously talented BUT the idea that he the. I kinda have basically put forth that he isn't really ready there is evidence to Back that up. Mannion played basically 4 years of college. Supposedly the smartest offensive wonderkind McVay has him around and he was even the backup last year. There were teams interested in signing Mannion in the offseason. Obviously there wasn't a huge market for him based on the contract he got. Sloter is on a PS. Teams miss on players all the time but the idea that Sloter is for sure better than Mannion I think is not certain. The Vikings don't exactly get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to QB evaluation BUT remember this was the organization that signed Keenum and people just ripped them for that saying he was a terrible backup...sure they did get lucky to some extent there but I think they saw some things that many fans didn't. What were Keenum's preseason stats like that year?

The McVay bump just needs to stop. Saying that's a positive for being a backup under a specific coach is just reaching. Mannion isn't coming in here and changing things up with Kubiak and Stefanski based on his time in LA. He's also behind a veteran QB so he's not coming in as some mentor to Kirk to pass down that knowledge. Also it's 2019. Being a 4 year college QB isn't as important as it used to be. They're coming into this league more prepared than ever with less experience than ever. I don't think Sloter is that much better than Mannion which means the age gap makes it a no brainer to take the development guy. If they are on the same or similar levels you should take the developmental guy over the journeyman.

I don't think Sloter is great or guaranteed to push Cousins, but Mannion for sure isn't that guy so why is he on this team? This has been a point of failure since Spielman took over. He can't scout QB's and he's never developed one. Teddy was a tragic and shitty situation, but we elected to move on so where's the next guy to develop? Look at all these young guys stepping in because of injuries or benchings across the league and they are doing ok. That's why you don't just sit back on a journeyman backup and either get a good one or get a development guy. Felt the same way about Simeon.

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Interesting read.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/cfl-mvp-quarterback-bo-levi-mitchell-says-vikings-didnt-want-him-to-challenge-kirk-cousins

Yes a guy that doesn't have an NFL job anywhere is mad that some NFL team (Or one guy in the organization) didn't think he was going to challenge a somewhat established starter. I'm not buying the Vikings were like no we want a crappy backup so we don't challenge Kirk. Yawn.

There is some smoke to that fire. There's no way a rational person watches this pre-season and has Mannion ahead of Sloter. With Sloter being 2 years younger playing at a similar if not better level it just didn't make any sense to stick with Mannion yet they did. They've basically cleared everything behind Kirk to the point he's the only guy you can play regardless of how bad he is because it's much worse behind him.

I disagree. Why? Again Sloter played less than 1 season incollege as a college QB. He has an awesome story and is obviously talented BUT the idea that he the. I kinda have basically put forth that he isn't really ready there is evidence to Back that up. Mannion played basically 4 years of college. Supposedly the smartest offensive wonderkind McVay has him around and he was even the backup last year. There were teams interested in signing Mannion in the offseason. Obviously there wasn't a huge market for him based on the contract he got. Sloter is on a PS. Teams miss on players all the time but the idea that Sloter is for sure better than Mannion I think is not certain. The Vikings don't exactly get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to QB evaluation BUT remember this was the organization that signed Keenum and people just ripped them for that saying he was a terrible backup...sure they did get lucky to some extent there but I think they saw some things that many fans didn't. What were Keenum's preseason stats like that year?

The McVay bump just needs to stop. Saying that's a positive for being a backup under a specific coach is just reaching. Mannion isn't coming in here and changing things up with Kubiak and Stefanski based on his time in LA. He's also behind a veteran QB so he's not coming in as some mentor to Kirk to pass down that knowledge. Also it's 2019. Being a 4 year college QB isn't as important as it used to be. They're coming into this league more prepared than ever with less experience than ever. I don't think Sloter is that much better than Mannion which means the age gap makes it a no brainer to take the development guy. If they are on the same or similar levels you should take the developmental guy over the journeyman.

I don't think Sloter is great or guaranteed to push Cousins, but Mannion for sure isn't that guy so why is he on this team? This has been a point of failure since Spielman took over. He can't scout QB's and he's never developed one. Teddy was a tragic and shitty situation, but we elected to move on so where's the next guy to develop? Look at all these young guys stepping in because of injuries or benchings across the league and they are doing ok. That's why you don't just sit back on a journeyman backup and either get a good one or get a development guy. Felt the same way about Simeon.

People said the same stuff about Keenum. Some guys are more prepared for the league but Sloter wasn't and possibly isn't. The guy played WR because his coach wouldn't play him at QB. He played less QB in college than Joe Webb and isn't as physically gifted as Webb is...But really not many guys are. Kubiak was a decision maker in the room for the 2 teams that cut Sloter. The McVay bump can stop (I thought some sarcasm would come through in my post...) but the lore of Kyle Sloter gets bit out of hand too. The Vikings have been one of a few teams that's have kept a 3rd QB for years. This year they didn't. Interestingly the scouting reports of the now magical Garner Minshew (it's Certainly a fun story and he is doing some nice things) and Jake Browning are somewhat similar. Minshew had a bit better report but the difference wasn't particularly drastic. Do I believe in Jake Browning? Not really but did anyone believe in Garner Minshew a few weeks ago? No...actually hell no. At some point they liked Browning enough to give him $140,000 as an undrafted guy.

To me the bottom line is that if theVikings really though Sloter or Levi or whoever was good enough then they would be on the roster. You are telling me they are like "Nah we good just give us Kirk and a mediocre guy and we are fine" Do you think they forgot about the 2017 season where Because of injuries they basically played plan C at QB in Keenum? Sloter was only good enough to make a practice squad. So is that another knock on their QB evaluation Or a knock because they let him go? I've been pleased they have at least had that young guy as a 3rd QB most years. None of the young guys have worked out so far.