Teddy Watch

[Wolvesfan21]

I think it makes sense to roll with Case as long as he is playing well and winning. Might as well give Teddy another week or 2 if we can just to get comfortable with the offense in practice.

Case should probably be replaced at some point though, I am not to thrilled with his inaccuracies and how that plays out against tougher competition. The schedule has been favorable along with the defense, which has been consistent also. I highly doubt the team with Case can win the Superbowl. Unless he steps it up from here on out, which he hasn't shown. He's done enough to win which is great, but again, Cleveland and the Packers without Rodgers are not exactly stiff competition.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

If he's medically cleared what is more time gonna do for him? He's already been practicing for 3 weeks. He had to be activated or put on long-term IR. And why would we keep 3 active QB's if he's been cleared to play and knows the system? Time is gonna do nothing for him at this point. Only experience.

[TAFKASP]

I am not to thrilled with his inaccuracies and how that plays out against tougher competition.

Teddy was never particularly accurate himself, and he also has questionable arm strength. The thing that Teddy did bring was an ability to escape pressure, which Case brings also, and which isn't guaranteed to be there with Teddy after his injury.

To me Teddy is to the Vikings what Rubio was to the Wolves, a very likable personality with significant holes in their games, both at the most important position in their sports. I'm not full Porkchop on Teddy, but I never saw anything from him that suggested he was the guy that was going to take them to the promised land, and that was before a major career threatening injury.

[Wolvesfan21]

I am not to thrilled with his inaccuracies and how that plays out against tougher competition.

Teddy was never particularly accurate himself, and he also has questionable arm strength. The thing that Teddy did bring was an ability to escape pressure, which Case brings also, and which isn't guaranteed to be there with Teddy after his injury.

To me Teddy is to the Vikings what Rubio was to the Wolves, a very likable personality with significant holes in their games, both at the most important position in their sports. I'm not full Porkchop on Teddy, but I never saw anything from him that suggested he was the guy that was going to take them to the promised land, and that was before a major career threatening injury.

Actually under 10 or 15 yards he set a Rookie record of some type (i forget) as the most accurate passer in that range. Where he struggled mostly was overthrowing players on the deep ball.

In fact his arm was measured just slightly above avg. out of the players who have tested in the draft. His arm is avg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfA9QPptA_4&t=8s

There is a chart somewhere also if you want to look it up.

Teddy was tested at 54 MPH

The highest was 60 or so and the Low was Mike Glennon at 46 MPH.

I know Russell Wilson was around 54 along with Winston and a couple other good QB's. I think Ponder was low at around 48 or 50.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I am not to thrilled with his inaccuracies and how that plays out against tougher competition.

Teddy was never particularly accurate himself, and he also has questionable arm strength. The thing that Teddy did bring was an ability to escape pressure, which Case brings also, and which isn't guaranteed to be there with Teddy after his injury.

To me Teddy is to the Vikings what Rubio was to the Wolves, a very likable personality with significant holes in their games, both at the most important position in their sports. I'm not full Porkchop on Teddy, but I never saw anything from him that suggested he was the guy that was going to take them to the promised land, and that was before a major career threatening injury.

Uh...he has a career 64.9% completion percentage. 5% better than Case. Aaron Rodgers is only 0.3% points better overall. Teddy is extremely accurate in the short and intermediate passing game. He struggles more in the deep passing game, but Thielen and Diggs are so good at getting open you don't necessarily need to take the top off all the time. The last time he played he had over 65% with the worst O-line in the league and Charles Johnson and Mike Wallace as his top receiving options. Now he has a decent O-line and really good WR options. I think he'd be really good in our system.

[TAFKASP]

To suggest he struggles with deep passes is generous, he was flat out terrible at deep passes. Bradford set an NFL record for completion percentage last year with no line in front of him and 99% of passes being short. If you cannot consistently make the explosive plays every other aspect of the offense will suffer. To me that sounds like Rubio.

[Wolvesfan21]

To suggest he struggles with deep passes is generous, he was flat out terrible at deep passes. Bradford set an NFL record for completion percentage last year with no line in front of him and 99% of passes being short. If you cannot consistently make the explosive plays every other aspect of the offense will suffer. To me that sounds like Rubio.

Teddy completes more passes for more yards then Bradford.

7.2 YPA - Teddy (career) decent

6.6 YPA - Bradford (career) not good

I also believe that he could improve his deep ball as well. Again, it wasn't a lack of arm strength. If you go back and watch the deep passes, most were overthrows. So it's just a matter of reigning in the power a bit or adding more air.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

To suggest he struggles with deep passes is generous, he was flat out terrible at deep passes. Bradford set an NFL record for completion percentage last year with no line in front of him and 99% of passes being short. If you cannot consistently make the explosive plays every other aspect of the offense will suffer. To me that sounds like Rubio.

Teddy completes more passes for more yards then Bradford.

7.2 YPA - Teddy (career) decent

6.6 YPA - Bradford (career) not good

I also believe that he could improve his deep ball as well. Again, it wasn't a lack of arm strength. If you go back and watch the deep passes, most were overthrows. So it's just a matter of reigning in the power a bit or adding more air.

Brady has a career 7.5 YPA
Brees 7.6
Stafford 7.1
Rodgers 7.9
Wilson 7.9
Ryan 7.5
Big Ben 7.9

Teddy isn't that far behind some pretty good QB's and that was with a terrible O-line and sub-par receiving options. He's certainly not a gun slinger chuck it deep guy but if he can get up to that 7.5 range that's enough.

[TAFKASP]

I hope you guys are right!

[Monster]

Souhan and Yotter said on their latest podcast that part of Teddy's Bert grows was him being to worried about throwing an INT. That's an interesting angle but it makes sense. Teddy going down field was a lot about him not wanting to take chances. He simply didn't make quick decisions at times as well. Like it's been mentioned before Teddy was working with a poor oline maybe not sure god skill position players and one year where he had to work with AP who's style of offense did not mesh well. I think Shurmer has done a good job and nobody is pining for Norv to be back but people do forget some of the challenges he faced. Teddy faced some of those problems too. I love Teddy but I'm also realistic about him (like I was with Rubio) but there are some legit reasons which have been well laid out already to feel hopeful he can be more than he was before the injury...at some point.