Welcome Brynn Forbes

[60WinTim]

I get why they signed him...we definitely needed to backfill some shooting. But he is so limited in other ways, it's just tough for me to get too excited. Good deal for the cost though.

I assume he is bench fodder until an injury gives him an opportunity.

[Coolbreeze44]

When I looked at the reminding FAs after the Gobert trade his name was one I was interested in. This team needed some shooting and he can do a bit of it off the dribble.

No Monster, he can't do anything off the dribble. He will be catching and shooting, taking advantage of the floor space created by KAT and Rudy. And he is very good at it.

I know you have seen him a lot more than me. I know he isn't a guy you want handling the ball much at all but he can dribble his his way out of a paper bag though right?

Of course the biggest negative about Forbes is his defense. How bad is it?

It's really his size that creates bad matchup problems on defense. He tries but doesn't have the physical tools to be very effective.

And Monster, I'm not sure I've ever seen him put the ball on the floor for longer than a rhythm bounce or to clear himself from trouble. He is a spot up shooter with a quick release. He can win you a game if he gets hot.

[Lipoli390]

When I looked at the reminding FAs after the Gobert trade his name was one I was interested in. This team needed some shooting and he can do a bit of it off the dribble.

No Monster, he can't do anything off the dribble. He will be catching and shooting, taking advantage of the floor space created by KAT and Rudy. And he is very good at it.

I know you have seen him a lot more than me. I know he isn't a guy you want handling the ball much at all but he can dribble his his way out of a paper bag though right?

Of course the biggest negative about Forbes is his defense. How bad is it?

It's really his size that creates bad matchup problems on defense. He tries but doesn't have the physical tools to be very effective.

And Monster, I'm not sure I've ever seen him put the ball on the floor for longer than a rhythm bounce or to clear himself from trouble. He is a spot up shooter with a quick release. He can win you a game if he gets hot.

Like most on this board, I've watched him at least a half dozen times. My recollection is that he's a terrible ball-handler. Catch-and-shoot, catch-and-shoot. :)

[thedoper]

Makes up for Beasley.

[FNG]

Is Forbes a more extreme version of Beasley? Maybe even a better shooter, but perhaps even a worse defender. I read somewhere that Forbes ranks among the elite in scoring after screens, so he may prosper from being on the court with a superb screener like Gobert. My sense is he has little interest in defense or distributing, so we need to accept what we are getting here. Still, I can't complain about getting a 1-trick pony with the vet minimum when that 1 trick is something we really need. Very good signing.

[Lipoli390]

Is Forbes a more extreme version of Beasley? Maybe even a better shooter, but perhaps even a worse defender. I read somewhere that Forbes ranks among the elite in scoring after screens, so he may prosper from being on the court with a superb screener like Gobert. My sense is he has little interest in defense or distributing, so we need to accept what we are getting here. Still, I can't complain about getting a 1-trick pony with the vet minimum when that 1 trick is something we really need. Very good signing.

I think Forbes is worse than Beasley defensively. Overall, Beasley is a much better player than Forbes. They're both elite 3-point shooters. But unlike Forbes, Beasley is also a terrific rebounder and athlete who can get out on the fast break and finish. But Forbes is the kind of player you need when you make a LA Lakers/Brooklyn Nets type all-in deal like the one for Rudy. Do I think Forbes was a good and necessary addition to a team that is now sorely lacking in the 3-point shooting area.

[SameOldNudityDrew]

He may not be able to dribble, but he seems ok at bouncing the ball on the floor occasionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt1NaqasnN0

In all seriousness, yes, he's a catch-and-shoot specialist. He's not going to initiate the offense off the bounce. (My buddy's a Spurs fan, so I saw him play several times a few years ago when we'd watch games together.) But it's not like he can't dribble at all. He's actually pretty good at using one or two dribbles off the catch to probe the defense or clear himself space for the shot (often coming off of picks and curl motions like Rip Hamilton or Ben Gordon used to). And I vaguely remember he seemed to like to be moving forward when he takes above-the-break 3s, so he'd sometimes stand well behind the 3 point line--usually to hop into the pass for the rhythm shot, but sometimes he'd take the catch and quickly take one dribble to step into the open spot for the shot. Also, he's really active moving off the ball, I'd say moreso than Beasley. He reminds me a bit of early-career Seth Curry, though he's obviously smaller. That off-the-ball movement should help our passers be even more effective with that aspect of their games. Should he take more than 3 dribbles? No, probably not. But not many guys should, and I think his handle is less of a liability than his defense. Luckily, having multiple ball handlers like we've got and a defender like Gobert helps make a guy like this more playable. Should be good for spacing the floor and causing problems for defenses occasionally. For the vet. min., you could definitely do worse!

[FNG]

Drew, someone will provide the stats on this, but my eye test on Forbes has him as more of a scorer coming off screens than a catch and shoot guy like Beasley. But in all fairness I have not checked his stats, and my opinion is based on the few games I have seen him play and an article I read this morning that ranked him 9th in efficiency in the league in threes off of screens, I suspect some here will provide some detail to provide more color on this interesting signing.

[SameOldNudityDrew]

Drew, someone will provide the stats on this, but my eye test on Forbes has him as more of a scorer coming off screens than a catch and shoot guy like Beasley. But in all fairness I have not checked his stats, and my opinion is based on the few games I have seen him play and an article I read this morning that ranked him 9th in efficiency in the league in threes off of screens, I suspect some here will provide some detail to provide more color on this interesting signing.

Yeah, I think that's fair, though coming off screens he does tend to look to catch and shoot, so it's kind of 6 of one, half dozen of the other. Beasley did move without the ball too, and I don't see why Forbes can't stand still at times when needed above the break and in the corners. But yeah, my sense is that he's really an off-the-ball mover. I hate to bring up the Curry brothers because Steph is maybe the greatest off-the-ball mover in history, plus being the greatest shooter in history and being so good at so much else. And Seth has actually developed more playmaking skills of the dribble that I don't think Forbes has. But like those two, I think he really is often running around off the ball. Second spectrum should have some stats on that, like distance run per minute on the floor or something, but I'm not sure how to look that up.

He should be nice to have for set plays out of timeouts in which we need a quick shot. Finch should like him for that.

[SameOldNudityDrew]

Just a quick note. Gobert, Anderson, and Forbes all have reputations for being good character guys who work hard and play smart. Talent is key, and I'll really miss PatBev's intensity and Vando's motor, but that's a nice bonus.