Wolves Trade News

[kekgeek]

The one thing I do like about Capela is that he really has never been played off the floor in his playoff career. He is a very solid perimeter defender, so that is a big upside for him. Avaliable FA bigs like Drummond, Hartenstien, Nurkic, Smith, Bamba (not sure about Bamba), I am afraid they will just get played off the floor in playoff series because they all struggle to defend the perimeter. Then putting Kat on a mobile 4s could be an issue.

I am cool with the Capela addition but he did take a step back this year and dealt with injuries what scares me.

[Lipoli390]

Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.

I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.

Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.

I read another writer discuss NBA centers and he said there an elite tier of centers like Embiid, Gobert, Adebayo, KAT and Jovic who are worth max money and then there are the rest of the centers who are viewed more as commodities and may not get paid a lot. I think this is a bit of an oversimpflification, but the supply/demand has been changing because some teams are going small ball and traditional centers are devalued, so you get a multi-All-Star like Drummond getting the minimum. The question for me is does Capela at $20 mill a year move the needle enough to warrant spending another $10 million more on a guy instead of the guy you could get in free agency, trade for or draft. I'm leaning no, giving Capela's shortcomings. Plus, l think Atlanta would try to extract some assets from the Wolves and I just want to hard pass on giving up any FRPs to get his big contract. I also don't know if taking on Capela's contract would foreclose the chance to add a max player in 2023 free agency and that might give me additional pause.

Yeah, the contract $ gives me pause given the trends. Capela is in that next tier of guys after the ones you listed, so he is pretty damn good, but the market value is probably worth less than his contract value.

Hartenstein still seems like a great in between solution....good enough to play meaningful minutes and really help with our size issues, but also reasonably priced.

Great discussion, guys. I'm a big Capela fan. I remember when he dominated KAT in the 1st round of the playoffs several years ago. I think that KG has identified Capela's weaknesses. My view is that Capela isn't worth $20M, knowing that Drummond, a very similar player, can probably be had for less than half that amount. I think Capela is more mobile and better overall than Drummond, but not by a lot.

Nonetheless, if I were Tim Connelly, I'd consider dealing for Capela in spite of my misgivings. But I would take a hard line in negotiations. Here's the way I see it. Capela is not in the mold of the modern center and, therefore, there are very few teams that would value him. The Wolves are unique in having a big like KAT, which gives the Wolves a luxury that no other team except Denver has - i.e. to start a big whose offensive game is entirely within the paint. So I wouldn't be offering picks or Jaden McDaniels to sweeten the deal. Beasley, Naz Reid and #19 for Capela and #16. Seems reasonable to me.

[kekgeek]

The one thing I do like about Capela is that he really has never been played off the floor in his playoff career. He is a very solid perimeter defender, so that is a big upside for him. Avaliable FA bigs like Drummond, Hartenstien, Nurkic, Smith, Bamba (not sure about Bamba), I am afraid they will just get played off the floor in playoff series because they all struggle to defend the perimeter. Then putting Kat on a mobile 4s could be an issue.

I am cool with the Capela addition but he did take a step back this year and dealt with injuries what scares me.

Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.

I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.

Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.

I read another writer discuss NBA centers and he said there an elite tier of centers like Embiid, Gobert, Adebayo, KAT and Jovic who are worth max money and then there are the rest of the centers who are viewed more as commodities and may not get paid a lot. I think this is a bit of an oversimpflification, but the supply/demand has been changing because some teams are going small ball and traditional centers are devalued, so you get a multi-All-Star like Drummond getting the minimum. The question for me is does Capela at $20 mill a year move the needle enough to warrant spending another $10 million more on a guy instead of the guy you could get in free agency, trade for or draft. I'm leaning no, giving Capela's shortcomings. Plus, l think Atlanta would try to extract some assets from the Wolves and I just want to hard pass on giving up any FRPs to get his big contract. I also don't know if taking on Capela's contract would foreclose the chance to add a max player in 2023 free agency and that might give me additional pause.

Yeah, the contract $ gives me pause given the trends. Capela is in that next tier of guys after the ones you listed, so he is pretty damn good, but the market value is probably worth less than his contract value.

Hartenstein still seems like a great in between solution....good enough to play meaningful minutes and really help with our size issues, but also reasonably priced.

Great discussion, guys. I'm a big Capela fan. I remember when he dominated KAT in the 1st round of the playoffs several years ago. I think that KG has identified Capela's weaknesses. My view is that Capela isn't worth $20M, knowing that Drummond, a very similar player, can probably be had for less than half that amount. I think Capela is more mobile and better overall than Drummond, but not by a lot.

Nonetheless, if I were Tim Connelly, I'd consider dealing for Capela in spite of my misgivings. But I would take a hard line in negotiations. Here's the way I see it. Capela is not in the mold of the modern center and, therefore, there are very few teams that would value him. The Wolves are unique in having a big like KAT, which gives the Wolves a luxury that no other team except Denver has - i.e. to start and big whose offensive game is entirely within the paint. So I wouldn't be offering picks or Jaden McDaniels to sweeten the deal. Beasley, Naz Reid and #19 for Capela and #16. Seems reasonable to me.

The big difference though between Capela and a guy like Drummond is Drummond has been unplayable in the playoffs because of his perimeter defense. Capela hasn't been played off the court in his playoff career.

Like you I have a hard line though on what it would take to acquire Capela. Beasley would need to be added because of salary reasons and I really don't know how much more I would give up. I would consider Beasley and one of Bolmoro, Naz, or one of the 2nds but I think Beasley might have more value then Capela now a days because of Capela contract.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I'm a little surprised by the initial reactions here. I thought I'd see a little more excitement and support for a potential acquisition like this.

Clint Capela would be a significant addition to this team in my view -- one that fits like a glove and covers up some glaring holes the Wolves had last year, namely defensive rebounding and rim protection. Additionally, I think he'd provide a vertical threat both in transition and in the pick-and-roll that this franchise just hasn't had in decades. He's long. He's strong. He's still more mobile/agile than most bigs. And he's proven capable of anchoring a respectable defense.

I'd like to see what the trade parameters looked like before getting too excited, but Capela is a very good player. For me, he's just below that elite tier of bigs and would be a legitimate improvement over Jarred Vanderbilt in the starting lineup.

[Lipoli390]

The one thing I do like about Capela is that he really has never been played off the floor in his playoff career. He is a very solid perimeter defender, so that is a big upside for him. Avaliable FA bigs like Drummond, Hartenstien, Nurkic, Smith, Bamba (not sure about Bamba), I am afraid they will just get played off the floor in playoff series because they all struggle to defend the perimeter. Then putting Kat on a mobile 4s could be an issue.

I am cool with the Capela addition but he did take a step back this year and dealt with injuries what scares me.

Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.

I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.

Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.

I read another writer discuss NBA centers and he said there an elite tier of centers like Embiid, Gobert, Adebayo, KAT and Jovic who are worth max money and then there are the rest of the centers who are viewed more as commodities and may not get paid a lot. I think this is a bit of an oversimpflification, but the supply/demand has been changing because some teams are going small ball and traditional centers are devalued, so you get a multi-All-Star like Drummond getting the minimum. The question for me is does Capela at $20 mill a year move the needle enough to warrant spending another $10 million more on a guy instead of the guy you could get in free agency, trade for or draft. I'm leaning no, giving Capela's shortcomings. Plus, l think Atlanta would try to extract some assets from the Wolves and I just want to hard pass on giving up any FRPs to get his big contract. I also don't know if taking on Capela's contract would foreclose the chance to add a max player in 2023 free agency and that might give me additional pause.

Yeah, the contract $ gives me pause given the trends. Capela is in that next tier of guys after the ones you listed, so he is pretty damn good, but the market value is probably worth less than his contract value.

Hartenstein still seems like a great in between solution....good enough to play meaningful minutes and really help with our size issues, but also reasonably priced.

Great discussion, guys. I'm a big Capela fan. I remember when he dominated KAT in the 1st round of the playoffs several years ago. I think that KG has identified Capela's weaknesses. My view is that Capela isn't worth $20M, knowing that Drummond, a very similar player, can probably be had for less than half that amount. I think Capela is more mobile and better overall than Drummond, but not by a lot.

Nonetheless, if I were Tim Connelly, I'd consider dealing for Capela in spite of my misgivings. But I would take a hard line in negotiations. Here's the way I see it. Capela is not in the mold of the modern center and, therefore, there are very few teams that would value him. The Wolves are unique in having a big like KAT, which gives the Wolves a luxury that no other team except Denver has - i.e. to start and big whose offensive game is entirely within the paint. So I wouldn't be offering picks or Jaden McDaniels to sweeten the deal. Beasley, Naz Reid and #19 for Capela and #16. Seems reasonable to me.

The big difference though between Capela and a guy like Drummond is Drummond has been unplayable in the playoffs because of his perimeter defense. Capela hasn't been played off the court in his playoff career.

Like you I have a hard line though on what it would take to acquire Capela. Beasley would need to be added because of salary reasons and I really don't know how much more I would give up. I would consider Beasley and one of Bolmoro, Naz, or one of the 2nds but I think Beasley might have more value then Capela now a days because of Capela contract.

Good point, kek. The parallel I suggested between Capela and Drummond was a bit strong. Capela is definitely the superior player and talent. He would certainly be an excellent fit for the Wolves and a huge upgrade over Vanderbilt.

[Q-is-here]

Kek, I agree Capela wouldn't get completely played off the floor (like Drummond or Steven Adams for example), but I just can't see him and KAT sharing the floor in crunch time. That's where I get a little stuck. Do we really want to pay a guy $20M per year if he can't be out there in the last 7 minutes of close games? May be he could be used as a defensive sub in those situations?

It all comes down to what we'd have to give up to get him. I'm with Cam on the fact that he solves a couple of big problems for us. It just may come at a steep price.

[Monster]

The one thing I do like about Capela is that he really has never been played off the floor in his playoff career. He is a very solid perimeter defender, so that is a big upside for him. Avaliable FA bigs like Drummond, Hartenstien, Nurkic, Smith, Bamba (not sure about Bamba), I am afraid they will just get played off the floor in playoff series because they all struggle to defend the perimeter. Then putting Kat on a mobile 4s could be an issue.

I am cool with the Capela addition but he did take a step back this year and dealt with injuries what scares me.

Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.

I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.

Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.

I read another writer discuss NBA centers and he said there an elite tier of centers like Embiid, Gobert, Adebayo, KAT and Jovic who are worth max money and then there are the rest of the centers who are viewed more as commodities and may not get paid a lot. I think this is a bit of an oversimpflification, but the supply/demand has been changing because some teams are going small ball and traditional centers are devalued, so you get a multi-All-Star like Drummond getting the minimum. The question for me is does Capela at $20 mill a year move the needle enough to warrant spending another $10 million more on a guy instead of the guy you could get in free agency, trade for or draft. I'm leaning no, giving Capela's shortcomings. Plus, l think Atlanta would try to extract some assets from the Wolves and I just want to hard pass on giving up any FRPs to get his big contract. I also don't know if taking on Capela's contract would foreclose the chance to add a max player in 2023 free agency and that might give me additional pause.

Yeah, the contract $ gives me pause given the trends. Capela is in that next tier of guys after the ones you listed, so he is pretty damn good, but the market value is probably worth less than his contract value.

Hartenstein still seems like a great in between solution....good enough to play meaningful minutes and really help with our size issues, but also reasonably priced.

Great discussion, guys. I'm a big Capela fan. I remember when he dominated KAT in the 1st round of the playoffs several years ago. I think that KG has identified Capela's weaknesses. My view is that Capela isn't worth $20M, knowing that Drummond, a very similar player, can probably be had for less than half that amount. I think Capela is more mobile and better overall than Drummond, but not by a lot.

Nonetheless, if I were Tim Connelly, I'd consider dealing for Capela in spite of my misgivings. But I would take a hard line in negotiations. Here's the way I see it. Capela is not in the mold of the modern center and, therefore, there are very few teams that would value him. The Wolves are unique in having a big like KAT, which gives the Wolves a luxury that no other team except Denver has - i.e. to start and big whose offensive game is entirely within the paint. So I wouldn't be offering picks or Jaden McDaniels to sweeten the deal. Beasley, Naz Reid and #19 for Capela and #16. Seems reasonable to me.

The big difference though between Capela and a guy like Drummond is Drummond has been unplayable in the playoffs because of his perimeter defense. Capela hasn't been played off the court in his playoff career.

Like you I have a hard line though on what it would take to acquire Capela. Beasley would need to be added because of salary reasons and I really don't know how much more I would give up. I would consider Beasley and one of Bolmoro, Naz, or one of the 2nds but I think Beasley might have more value then Capela now a days because of Capela contract.

Good point, kek. The parallel I suggested between Capela and Drummond was a bit strong. Capela is definitely the superior player and talent. He would certainly be an excellent fit for the Wolves and a huge upgrade over Vanderbilt.

Let's be honest for much of his career Drummond was never considered a particularly strong defensive player. He was good at rebounding and blocking shots and became and is now an elite rebounder but he was never the defensive anchor that Capela was. Capela wasn't a DPOY type guy but his defense was a significant part of his value. Capela if Healthy I think is still a very good starter. Drummond has been undervalued but I do think there are reasons why he didn't get a higher contract last offseason. I think he might get more this offseason unless he just wants to play on a winning team again.

[Lipoli390]

The one thing I do like about Capela is that he really has never been played off the floor in his playoff career. He is a very solid perimeter defender, so that is a big upside for him. Avaliable FA bigs like Drummond, Hartenstien, Nurkic, Smith, Bamba (not sure about Bamba), I am afraid they will just get played off the floor in playoff series because they all struggle to defend the perimeter. Then putting Kat on a mobile 4s could be an issue.

I am cool with the Capela addition but he did take a step back this year and dealt with injuries what scares me.

Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.

I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.

Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.

I read another writer discuss NBA centers and he said there an elite tier of centers like Embiid, Gobert, Adebayo, KAT and Jovic who are worth max money and then there are the rest of the centers who are viewed more as commodities and may not get paid a lot. I think this is a bit of an oversimpflification, but the supply/demand has been changing because some teams are going small ball and traditional centers are devalued, so you get a multi-All-Star like Drummond getting the minimum. The question for me is does Capela at $20 mill a year move the needle enough to warrant spending another $10 million more on a guy instead of the guy you could get in free agency, trade for or draft. I'm leaning no, giving Capela's shortcomings. Plus, l think Atlanta would try to extract some assets from the Wolves and I just want to hard pass on giving up any FRPs to get his big contract. I also don't know if taking on Capela's contract would foreclose the chance to add a max player in 2023 free agency and that might give me additional pause.

Yeah, the contract $ gives me pause given the trends. Capela is in that next tier of guys after the ones you listed, so he is pretty damn good, but the market value is probably worth less than his contract value.

Hartenstein still seems like a great in between solution....good enough to play meaningful minutes and really help with our size issues, but also reasonably priced.

Great discussion, guys. I'm a big Capela fan. I remember when he dominated KAT in the 1st round of the playoffs several years ago. I think that KG has identified Capela's weaknesses. My view is that Capela isn't worth $20M, knowing that Drummond, a very similar player, can probably be had for less than half that amount. I think Capela is more mobile and better overall than Drummond, but not by a lot.

Nonetheless, if I were Tim Connelly, I'd consider dealing for Capela in spite of my misgivings. But I would take a hard line in negotiations. Here's the way I see it. Capela is not in the mold of the modern center and, therefore, there are very few teams that would value him. The Wolves are unique in having a big like KAT, which gives the Wolves a luxury that no other team except Denver has - i.e. to start and big whose offensive game is entirely within the paint. So I wouldn't be offering picks or Jaden McDaniels to sweeten the deal. Beasley, Naz Reid and #19 for Capela and #16. Seems reasonable to me.

The big difference though between Capela and a guy like Drummond is Drummond has been unplayable in the playoffs because of his perimeter defense. Capela hasn't been played off the court in his playoff career.

Like you I have a hard line though on what it would take to acquire Capela. Beasley would need to be added because of salary reasons and I really don't know how much more I would give up. I would consider Beasley and one of Bolmoro, Naz, or one of the 2nds but I think Beasley might have more value then Capela now a days because of Capela contract.

Good point, kek. The parallel I suggested between Capela and Drummond was a bit strong. Capela is definitely the superior player and talent. He would certainly be an excellent fit for the Wolves and a huge upgrade over Vanderbilt.

Let's be honest for much of his career Drummond was never considered a particularly strong defensive player. He was good at rebounding and blocking shots and became and is now an elite rebounder but he was never the defensive anchor that Capela was. Capela wasn't a DPOY type guy but his defense was a significant part of his value. Capela if Healthy I think is still a very good starter. Drummond has been undervalued but I do think there are reasons why he didn't get a higher contract last offseason. I think he might get more this offseason unless he just wants to play on a winning team again.

There's really no debate about whether Capela is better than Drummond. The issue is that the Wolves would have to give up valuable assets to get Capela and then pay him $20 million. In contrast, the Wolves could sign Drummond as a free agent and pay him somewhere between $5 and 8 million. If Q is right that Capela can't be be on the floor with KAT in crunch time in the playoffs, then I just can't see giving up valuable assets to get him and then paying him nearly $20 million. I'm really on the fence when it comes to trading for Capela. I'm a big Capela fan and I think he might be able to be on the floor with KAT in the playoffs. I think KAT and Capela are more mobile and versatile defensively than many think. Obviously, my thinking would depend on what we'd have to give up to get him.

[KG4Ever]

If Wolves like Capela, just draft Nzosa in the second round and stash him a year. His comparison is Clint Capela and he'll be on a rookie deal and much younger (He's 19). Nzosa! https://nbadraftroom.com/yannick-nzosa/ They called him a "more advanced Clint Capela." 7'6 wingspan. Moves well.

[kekgeek]

If Wolves like Capela, just draft Nzosa in the second round and stash him a year. His comparison is Clint Capela and he'll be on a rookie deal and much younger (He's 19). Nzosa! https://nbadraftroom.com/yannick-nzosa/ They called him a "more advanced Clint Capela."

The odds he becomes as good as capela is like 1%