I thought we should have a thread devoted entirely to reports about possible Wolves trades this summer - either connected or not connected to the upcoming draft.
Among other things, we've seen multiple reports that the Wolves are shopping DLO. I'm not sure I buy those reports. I think they're pure conjecture at this point, but I would think the Wolves front office is certainly open to trading DLO. I haven't seen any specific reports about possible DLO deals, but stay tuned.
I just saw a report this morning that the Wolves are interested in trading for Capela. He's be a great addition to the Wolves. I wonder who the Wolves would have to give up to get him:
The Timberwolves have discussed deals around veteran centers, including Atlanta's Clint Capela, sources said. - via Shams Charania @ The Athletic
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lipoli390 wrote:I thought we should have a thread devoted entirely to reports about possible Wolves trades this summer - either connected or not connected to the upcoming draft.
Among other things, we've seen multiple reports that the Wolves are shopping DLO. I'm not sure I buy those reports. I think they're pure conjecture at this point, but I would think the Wolves front office is certainly open to trading DLO. I haven't seen any specific reports about possible DLO deals, but stay tuned.
I just saw a report this morning that the Wolves are interested in trading for Capela. He's be a great addition to the Wolves. I wonder who the Wolves would have to give up to get him:
The Timberwolves have discussed deals around veteran centers, including Atlanta's Clint Capela, sources said. - via Shams Charania @ The Athletic
The way Jon K on his last podcast with Souhan described the Russell shopping buzz is that the Wolves are gauging the trade market on various guys not really shopping anyone but basically doing their diligence. Take that however you want I suppose but obviously there are a couple guys they aren't finding out what the trade interest is. :)
Atlanta has been in quite a few reports. It seems they are looking to make a move or series of moves. Capela sounds good and it would be kinda amusing if Beasley was involved in that deal since he was a part of the deal that landed Capela in Atlanta. Anyway it's interesting that Shama reports they are looking at vet centers. Capela would be fantastic but I'll settle for the seemly reasonable Beasley for Holmes deal.
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I can see why Atlanta wants to trade Capela. Okongwu is ready to take over the center spot and he is younger and makes a lot less money. Capela is set to make more than $20 million a year for the next few years. Capela is a mixed bag, he's a terrific rebounder and rim protector, but he's a terrible free throw shooter, can't shoot threes and can't pass. He's also 28 which is a bit older than I like given Ant's time frame. He's had some injury issues over the years and there are a plethora of other center options at half the cost. I still prefer to go the Hartenstein, Nurkic, Bamba, Drummond, Jalen Smith route and even prefer Mark Williams or Duren. I can understand why the Wolves might like Capela, but I don't want to give up a whole lot to help Atlanta move his contract. But the biggest positive, I see is that Connelly/Finch have decided to look into pairing KAT with a rim protector.
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The Pacers are seriously discussing trades around Myles Turner and Malcolm Brogdon, per @ShamsCharania
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Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.
I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.
Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.
I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.
Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.
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Q-was-here wrote:Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.
I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.
Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.
I read another writer discuss NBA centers and he said there an elite tier of centers like Embiid, Gobert, Adebayo, KAT and Jokic who are worth max money and then there are the rest of the centers who are viewed more as commodities and may not get paid a lot. I think this is a bit of an oversimpflification, but the supply/demand has been changing because some teams are going small ball and traditional centers are devalued, so you get a multi-All-Star like Drummond getting the minimum. The question for me is does Capela at $20 mill a year move the needle enough to warrant spending another $10 million more on a guy instead of the guy you could get in free agency, trade for or draft. I'm leaning no, giving Capela's shortcomings. Plus, l think Atlanta would try to extract some assets from the Wolves and I just want to hard pass on giving up any FRPs to get his big contract. I also don't know if taking on Capela's contract would foreclose the chance to add a max player in 2023 free agency and that might give me additional pause.
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Q-was-here wrote:Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.
I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.
Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.
The question I have is...are the Wolves going to be able to sign a FA better than Capela next offseason? Also if the Wolves acquire Capela then they would have flexibility in what they would want to do in FA this year.
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KG4Ever wrote:Q-was-here wrote:Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.
I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.
Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.
I read another writer discuss NBA centers and he said there an elite tier of centers like Embiid, Gobert, Adebayo, KAT and Jovic who are worth max money and then there are the rest of the centers who are viewed more as commodities and may not get paid a lot. I think this is a bit of an oversimpflification, but the supply/demand has been changing because some teams are going small ball and traditional centers are devalued, so you get a multi-All-Star like Drummond getting the minimum. The question for me is does Capela at $20 mill a year move the needle enough to warrant spending another $10 million more on a guy instead of the guy you could get in free agency, trade for or draft. I'm leaning no, giving Capela's shortcomings. Plus, l think Atlanta would try to extract some assets from the Wolves and I just want to hard pass on giving up any FRPs to get his big contract. I also don't know if taking on Capela's contract would foreclose the chance to add a max player in 2023 free agency and that might give me additional pause.
Yeah, the contract $ gives me pause given the trends. Capela is in that next tier of guys after the ones you listed, so he is pretty damn good, but the market value is probably worth less than his contract value.
Hartenstein still seems like a great in between solution....good enough to play meaningful minutes and really help with our size issues, but also reasonably priced.
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Q-was-here wrote:KG4Ever wrote:Q-was-here wrote:Capela would single-handedly solve our defensive rebounding issues and be a massive help to KAT in protecting the paint and guarding the behemoths of the NBA. On offense he puts a ton of pressure on the rim as a lob threat.
I do agree that he's probably the type of Center you need to sit in crunch time since he can't hit FTs and he can't space the floor.
Is this worth $20M per year? I think that's a fair question considering he'd probably have to sit late in close games.
I read another writer discuss NBA centers and he said there an elite tier of centers like Embiid, Gobert, Adebayo, KAT and Jovic who are worth max money and then there are the rest of the centers who are viewed more as commodities and may not get paid a lot. I think this is a bit of an oversimpflification, but the supply/demand has been changing because some teams are going small ball and traditional centers are devalued, so you get a multi-All-Star like Drummond getting the minimum. The question for me is does Capela at $20 mill a year move the needle enough to warrant spending another $10 million more on a guy instead of the guy you could get in free agency, trade for or draft. I'm leaning no, giving Capela's shortcomings. Plus, l think Atlanta would try to extract some assets from the Wolves and I just want to hard pass on giving up any FRPs to get his big contract. I also don't know if taking on Capela's contract would foreclose the chance to add a max player in 2023 free agency and that might give me additional pause.
Yeah, the contract $ gives me pause given the trends. Capela is in that next tier of guys after the ones you listed, so he is pretty damn good, but the market value is probably worth less than his contract value.
Hartenstein still seems like a great in between solution....good enough to play meaningful minutes and really help with our size issues, but also reasonably priced.
I'll clarify that I wouldn't give up a first round pick for Capela. Beasley and maybe some other smaller asset is what I would e willing to do. Atlanta might have interest in doing that if they are wanting to clear the book and Beasley might be someone they could move again or be somewhat of a replacement if they move Huerter.
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I wouldn't give up 19 for capela and I'd even be hesitant to give up 40. I also would be very hesitant to do Beasley for capela straight up. I would however be interested in capela as part of a Dlo trade and think that's probably the context that it's being discussed.
Capela and a guard/wing for Dlo and naz is my guess. Maybe throw in 48 or 50 also.
Capela and a guard/wing for Dlo and naz is my guess. Maybe throw in 48 or 50 also.