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lipoli390 wrote:It makes no sense to trade him now. This is a strange season with Covid and we haven't had KAT on the floor much because of Covid and his wrist injury. The time to consider dealing him is the end of next season. By that time, we should know enough about the trajectory of our young players and the pairing of DLO and KAT as our two pillars to determine whether it makes sense to continue moving forward with him. At that point, we starting a League-wide bidding frenzy. KAT will command a very big return.

Lip, that's the thing. We know, or at least I do, that KAT and DLO are not going to work as our two pillars. We're wasting time trying to build around those two. If you want to try and get what you can for DLO (not much), we could try to build around KAT. But again we don't have anything to build with for a couple years.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:There's a chance he's the only definitive plus player on the squad.

Getting rid of him for anything less than another definitive plus player seems like one step forward... four steps back.

If we're not aware of the fool's gold premise behind a bunch of draft picks by now...

Yeah I get it, but what's the alternative? Even if he plays 82 games next year, what are our chances of being a .500 club? We have no cap space, we have no draft picks. All we can hope for is maturation from our young guys. So when KAT ultimately decides to make a power play to get out of here, we are just that much further behind. I'd rather begin the rebuild now than wait another two years to start with more 19 year olds. Waiting until after the draft lottery as WolvesFan suggested has some merit. But if we trade him to Golden State we are pretty assured of getting a top 5 pick in this draft plus Wiseman, and hopefully some much needed cap space. Of course I wouldn't do anything until Rosas is sent packing, and CoolBreeze is entrenched as the PBO.

If he has to be traded... trade him for another current player who's actually done something in the NBA.

That can be part of the deal, but if you're suggesting a one for one you might as well keep KAT.

I'll also echo Cool's call to wait until after Rosas is gone and Cool has taken over the team's basketball operations. :)

However, the Golden State deal is enticing. I'd include a contingency in the deal that would have the Warriors owing us their own 2023 first round pick (unprotected) if our 2021 pick ends up in the top three, in which case we'd get the pick anyway. We'd also have to take back some salary from the Warriors. The logical take-back would be Draymond Green.

No thank you on any warrior trade centering around Wiseman. He has been so meh so far. He is fine and might have a very good career but he kind of is just there in my opinion.

100% agree with abe, when the day comes to trade Kat the Wolves need 1 legit proven NBA piece back

For the question though I think you see where our pick is this year because if its a top 3 pick Wolves could try and go get a player like Beal and legit try and build a team with 2 all nba talents.

Also waiting might open up more option. What happens if the kings won the lottery would Haliburton, Hield, Bagley and #1 pick plus other picks excite you??

PorkChop wrote:Part of the reason we want to hold on to Kat is the same reason we should maybe consider acquiring talent for him. He keeps missing games so we don't know what we have collectively as a team. What if he continues to miss games? Then what?

Yeah, his positive Covid test proved what we all feared...KAT is clearly injury prone ;) .

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/01/22/nba-rumors-atlanta-hawks-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-trae-young-karl-anthony-towns/2/

Here's another hypothetical deal for Towns. Wouldnt be a bad deal at the deadline.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:It makes no sense to trade him now. This is a strange season with Covid and we haven't had KAT on the floor much because of Covid and his wrist injury. The time to consider dealing him is the end of next season. By that time, we should know enough about the trajectory of our young players and the pairing of DLO and KAT as our two pillars to determine whether it makes sense to continue moving forward with him. At that point, we starting a League-wide bidding frenzy. KAT will command a very big return.

Lip, that's the thing. We know, or at least I do, that KAT and DLO are not going to work as our two pillars. We're wasting time trying to build around those two. If you want to try and get what you can for DLO (not much), we could try to build around KAT. But again we don't have anything to build with for a couple years.

No argument from me on that point, Q. Like you, I'm already convinced that those two won't work as our two pillars. I said that when we first traded for DLO, which was why I wasn't crazy about the deal. But I'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong and that the two can be a good enough tandem to get this team into the playoffs next season, possibly with a high enough seed to get out of the first round. In the meantime, I'd aggressively shop DLO and trade him if able to find a decent deal for him right now, But I think we'd be selling low and I don't think DLO's value goes down much from here. Once KAT is back, it should make DLO look better than he's looked so far this season, which might drive up his value.

If you get the chance, go back and look at the Wolves games against the Clippers and Miami last season after the trade-deadline deals. In the game against the Clippers, KAT played and JMac was our main PG. DLO was out that game. The ball moved beautifully and the Wolves won handily in one of their two best games of the season. JMac was terrific and a key to the win. You could see the potential of this team with KAT, but no DLO. In the Miami game, DLO played and KAT was out. JMac played substantial minutes that game, often alongside DLO, and was again pivotal to the Wolves win in what might have been an even more impressive win than the victory over the Clippers. That was an example of how good this team can be with DLO playing if he's used the right way, plays the right way and has another PG like JMac to facilitate better ball movement.

I'm not optimistic about this team going forward with KAT and DLO as the two pillars, but given the investment already made, this organization has to fully exhaust that possibility before moving KAT. If they can get a good deal for DLO yet this season or before next season, they should do it. But we should stick with KAT until the end of next season and see what happens with or without DLO. KAT will be just as valuable in the trade market then as he is now, if not more so.

crazysauce wrote:https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/01/22/nba-rumors-atlanta-hawks-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-trae-young-karl-anthony-towns/2/

Here's another hypothetical deal for Towns. Wouldnt be a bad deal at the deadline.

No thank you from me. I like John Collins and Capela but I don't like that we trade Kat and right away pay John Collins the max. We don't need another player on this roster who is not worth the max. If they add in Hunter we are getting close. Also don't love giving up Naz in that trade

The only reason to trade KAT is if a Davis style deal is actually on the table. KAT is obviously not Davis so getting that type of haul would be a good deal. For anything else Id rather just wait until KAT is insistent on leaving.