Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
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Coolbreeze44
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Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
I'm torn on this issue. KAT gives us a chance to not be embarrassing every night, and there is some real value in that. But we are just treading water and have no real future by keeping him, given our lack of draft assets. So do we pull the plug now and get about the business of yet another full rebuild? Or is it more prudent to hang on to the one sure thing we have?
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AbeVigodaLive
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Re: Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
There's a chance he's the only definitive plus player on the squad.
Getting rid of him for anything less than another definitive plus player seems like one step forward... four steps back.
If we're not aware of the fool's gold premise behind a bunch of draft picks by now...
Getting rid of him for anything less than another definitive plus player seems like one step forward... four steps back.
If we're not aware of the fool's gold premise behind a bunch of draft picks by now...
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Wolvesfan21
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Re: Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
I would wait to see who holds what draft picks. If we can get a top 3 pick and an actual young player we covet then I would be more inclined to think about it. Just getting picks doesn't do anything for me. Heck they could all end up being late first rounders and we get a bunch of at best role players. That's not smart.
So I would need a top 3 pick, young talented player with upside plus 3 more 1sts. GSW and a few other might be the only possible situations that could work.
So I would need a top 3 pick, young talented player with upside plus 3 more 1sts. GSW and a few other might be the only possible situations that could work.
Re: Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
I'm not opposed to deal Towns in the near future but here are some reasons it may be worthwhile to wait.
1. Players that have wanted out and basically forced their way out like AD, Jimmy Butler and now Harden have still brought back big time hauls. As long as Towns is healthy he will bring back a massive return.
2. Let's say you trade Towns now. What exactly are we looking to get back? It might be nice to have most of this season to assess the rest of the roster and see what might be worth keeping and what may need replacing. Obviously at this point a young big coming back would be a no brainer. This team is already crazy young a bunch of picks might not be super exciting. I agree with others we need to get someone who can play now back in the deal.
3. What if Ryan Saunders is a bad coach?let's say this offseason the Wolves fire him hire a good coach like Atkinson and that change alone make the team closer to a .500 team? The suns had 2 bad coaches and then they added Monte Williams who is a solid good coach and someone legit to play PG and suddenly they don't suck. Maybe we could do something like that but have the spot next to towns filled with someone highly capable?
4. Towns has played how many games in the Rosas era? 39 Maybe this team which has had a massive amount of turnover with not a lot of time to put it together and a slew of young guys could still come together with Towns. It doesn't seem too ridiculous to at least try the rest of the season and see what happens.
I don't see the Wolves making a deal for Towns this season but some teams may check in with more serious intentions than in the past. To be honest I'm feeling a bit of apathy for what happens either way but I would like to actually see Towns and the team stay relatively healthy so we could actually see more one way or another whether this will work or not or maybe kinda meh.
1. Players that have wanted out and basically forced their way out like AD, Jimmy Butler and now Harden have still brought back big time hauls. As long as Towns is healthy he will bring back a massive return.
2. Let's say you trade Towns now. What exactly are we looking to get back? It might be nice to have most of this season to assess the rest of the roster and see what might be worth keeping and what may need replacing. Obviously at this point a young big coming back would be a no brainer. This team is already crazy young a bunch of picks might not be super exciting. I agree with others we need to get someone who can play now back in the deal.
3. What if Ryan Saunders is a bad coach?let's say this offseason the Wolves fire him hire a good coach like Atkinson and that change alone make the team closer to a .500 team? The suns had 2 bad coaches and then they added Monte Williams who is a solid good coach and someone legit to play PG and suddenly they don't suck. Maybe we could do something like that but have the spot next to towns filled with someone highly capable?
4. Towns has played how many games in the Rosas era? 39 Maybe this team which has had a massive amount of turnover with not a lot of time to put it together and a slew of young guys could still come together with Towns. It doesn't seem too ridiculous to at least try the rest of the season and see what happens.
I don't see the Wolves making a deal for Towns this season but some teams may check in with more serious intentions than in the past. To be honest I'm feeling a bit of apathy for what happens either way but I would like to actually see Towns and the team stay relatively healthy so we could actually see more one way or another whether this will work or not or maybe kinda meh.
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Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
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Re: Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
It feels like we have done a similar poll to this recently, but I guess it's a question worth pondering on a regular basis given the state of the franchise....
I felt like we should have traded him last season and my position hasn't changed. In fact, I feel even more strongly about it since it's only a matter of time that he asks out anyway. I think he'll want out either this next offseason or the one after that.
The one thing I would say is if we do trade him, it either needs to be for a young up and coming dynamic point guard or wing. Do NOT trade him for another big. Relatively good bigs can be had for cheap.
I felt like we should have traded him last season and my position hasn't changed. In fact, I feel even more strongly about it since it's only a matter of time that he asks out anyway. I think he'll want out either this next offseason or the one after that.
The one thing I would say is if we do trade him, it either needs to be for a young up and coming dynamic point guard or wing. Do NOT trade him for another big. Relatively good bigs can be had for cheap.
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Coolbreeze44
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Re: Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
AbeVigodaLive wrote:There's a chance he's the only definitive plus player on the squad.
Getting rid of him for anything less than another definitive plus player seems like one step forward... four steps back.
If we're not aware of the fool's gold premise behind a bunch of draft picks by now...
Yeah I get it, but what's the alternative? Even if he plays 82 games next year, what are our chances of being a .500 club? We have no cap space, we have no draft picks. All we can hope for is maturation from our young guys. So when KAT ultimately decides to make a power play to get out of here, we are just that much further behind. I'd rather begin the rebuild now than wait another two years to start with more 19 year olds. Waiting until after the draft lottery as WolvesFan suggested has some merit. But if we trade him to Golden State we are pretty assured of getting a top 5 pick in this draft plus Wiseman, and hopefully some much needed cap space. Of course I wouldn't do anything until Rosas is sent packing, and CoolBreeze is entrenched as the PBO.
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AbeVigodaLive
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Re: Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
CoolBreeze44 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:There's a chance he's the only definitive plus player on the squad.
Getting rid of him for anything less than another definitive plus player seems like one step forward... four steps back.
If we're not aware of the fool's gold premise behind a bunch of draft picks by now...
Yeah I get it, but what's the alternative? Even if he plays 82 games next year, what are our chances of being a .500 club? We have no cap space, we have no draft picks. All we can hope for is maturation from our young guys. So when KAT ultimately decides to make a power play to get out of here, we are just that much further behind. I'd rather begin the rebuild now than wait another two years to start with more 19 year olds. Waiting until after the draft lottery as WolvesFan suggested has some merit. But if we trade him to Golden State we are pretty assured of getting a top 5 pick in this draft plus Wiseman, and hopefully some much needed cap space. Of course I wouldn't do anything until Rosas is sent packing, and CoolBreeze is entrenched as the PBO.
If he has to be traded... trade him for another current player who's actually done something in the NBA.
Re: Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
NAZ > KAT
Git'er done!
:D
Git'er done!
:D
Re: Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
Part of the reason we want to hold on to Kat is the same reason we should maybe consider acquiring talent for him. He keeps missing games so we don't know what we have collectively as a team. What if he continues to miss games? Then what?
Re: Do the Inevitable Now, or Wait on Trading Kat
It makes no sense to trade him now. This is a strange season with Covid and we haven't had KAT on the floor much because of Covid and his wrist injury. The time to consider dealing him is the end of next season. By that time, we should know enough about the trajectory of our young players and the pairing of DLO and KAT as our two pillars to determine whether it makes sense to continue moving forward with him. At that point, we starting a League-wide bidding frenzy. KAT will command a very big return.