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Re: RPM is out

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:31 pm
by Coolbreeze44
thedoper wrote:RPM still strikes me as a ESPN tool to have a niche stat. The cumulative and supposedly predictive elements seem dubious statistically to me particularly when used like this to isolate rankings at the beginning of a year. KAT has played better defensively in the last 8 or so games but it would never show up in this metric at this point.

Just look at some of the names that rank high. Pat Connaughton, Josh Hart, Omri Casspi, etc. How good can it be?

Re: RPM is out

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:37 pm
by kekgeek
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
thedoper wrote:RPM still strikes me as a ESPN tool to have a niche stat. The cumulative and supposedly predictive elements seem dubious statistically to me particularly when used like this to isolate rankings at the beginning of a year. KAT has played better defensively in the last 8 or so games but it would never show up in this metric at this point.

Just look at some of the names that rank high. Pat Connaughton, Josh Hart, Omri Casspi, etc. How good can it be?


It also takes previous years into account. So guys like Wiggins and lavine have a uphill battle to raise in this stat

Re: RPM is out

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:41 pm
by Coolbreeze44
kekgeek1 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
thedoper wrote:RPM still strikes me as a ESPN tool to have a niche stat. The cumulative and supposedly predictive elements seem dubious statistically to me particularly when used like this to isolate rankings at the beginning of a year. KAT has played better defensively in the last 8 or so games but it would never show up in this metric at this point.

Just look at some of the names that rank high. Pat Connaughton, Josh Hart, Omri Casspi, etc. How good can it be?


It also takes previous years into account. So guys like Wiggins and lavine have a uphill battle to raise in this stat

I'm surprised Wig is as high as he is. This metric usually isn't kind to him.

Re: RPM is out

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:58 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
Rose makes the top 10 worst defenders in the league. Hardaway Jr is a bit of a surprise.

421 Derrick Rose, PG
422 Collin Sexton, PG
423 Lou Williams, SG
424 Marvin Bagley III,
425 Spencer Dinwiddie, PG
426 Malik Monk, SG CHA
427 Zach LaVine, PG CHI
428 Tim Hardaway Jr., G NY
429 Antonio Blakeney, SG CHI
430 Trae Young, PG ATL

Re: RPM is out

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:49 am
by AbeVigodaLive
thedoper wrote:RPM still strikes me as a ESPN tool to have a niche stat. The cumulative and supposedly predictive elements seem dubious statistically to me particularly when used like this to isolate rankings at the beginning of a year. KAT has played better defensively in the last 8 or so games but it would never show up in this metric at this point.



Yes. I've railed about it since its inception.

It's primarily a marketing stat/tool for ESPN... and should be taken as only one metric... and far from any definitive one.