Curry's broken hand... and what it MIGHT mean for the Timberwolves.

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KG4Ever wrote:By the way, wher
thedoper wrote:If we could get DLo for Roco and Teague I think you have to do it.


Sorry No!
Rocco at his salary and being a two way player > DLO.


I agree that right now that Roco is more valuable than DLo. But long term DLo is very talented and capable with upside, KAT's age, and clearly KAT wants to run with DLo. I feel like the move is more about securing KAT as it is about acquiring DLo. Players want to play with their friends now, it's the nature of the league.
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KG4Ever wrote:If your time frame is beyond this year, I think there will be plenty of options to either draft a young point guard (next year's draft is PG heavy), develop Culver, or sign a young free agent and develop him. Lowry was once on the scrap heep and we need Rosas to find guys that can be developed. Young guys that were drafted outside the lottery or were free agents and are starting to emerge include Vanvleet, Delon Wright, Derrick White, Dejounte Murray, Nunn and Satoransky. Once we shed Teague and Dieng's contract, we will have money to sign a vet if need be.


Who said you can't double dip at the position? Part of what makes D'Angelo Russell an intriguing young talent is that he can play off-ball in some lineups. The caveat there is that he needs some defensive support around him, which is why the pairing with Steph Curry was never going to truly work in Golden State.

Kyle Lowry was never on the scrapheap, as you put it. He was a late first-round pick that competed for minutes with All-Star snub Mike Conley Jr. in Memphis before being traded to Houston where he became a solid starting point guard. If you remember correctly, it was there where he was ousted due to injury and a pretty talented backup by the name of Goran Dragic. Houston traded him to Toronto and he's stuck ever since.

As for the rest of the names you provided, I'm inclined to take Russell over all of them. That's not to knock any of them, but Russell is easily the most-talented player among that group.
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Camden wrote:As for the rest of the names you provided, I'm inclined to take Russell over all of them. That's not to knock any of them, but Russell is easily the most-talented player among that group.


Is his talent and lack of defense worth that contract? I'm not up on non-Wolves players but wonder if a somewhat lesser, but more of a two way player on a more team-friendly contract wouldn't be better in the end than DLO.
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LOL at thinking Russell is a bad fit for our team, I get he has flaws but his strengths are all things we sorely need. Elite perimeter ball-handling (we have zero), excellent passer (we have zero) , volume three point shooting (only towns) would all be a huge get. That is seriously crazy to suggest that he would be a bad fit for our squad, jesus man
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PG defense is the most overrated requirement this board has. Most of the top PG's in the league don't play defense. Steph, Russ, Lillard, Kyrie, Trae Young, Kemba...The offense they create for the entire team off the dribble is just a million times more valuable than being good at fighting through picks which is a majority of what PG defense is in this league. If you can get Russell for picks and none of the young guys you do it because we have 2 guys tailor made to play next to him to cover up his defensive deficiencies in Culver and Okogie. Then you even get to keep the home run swing open and have the young talent a team like Phoenix would want if Booker wanted to force his way here to play with his two best friends. There's no downside to me to getting a primary ball handling PG who can actually run this offense unlike Teague if we don't have to give up more than picks and expirings/vets.
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DLO is Waaaayyy overrated. Rosas shouldn't do this.
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I think Rosas dodged a bullet in not getting DLO. Hopefully he realizes it now.
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I dont think theres any doubt that dlo would help our offense. I think he'll do a better job of creating looks than teague and he wouldnt be afraid to take an open 3.

The issues i have would be cost. Id rather not give up cov or any future picks in a deal.

Defensively we are hovering in the middle right now, we would immediately drop to the bottom tier with dlo getting 30+ minutes.
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The Wolves uptick on team defensive rankings are quite evidently a result of Karl-Anthony Towns' individual improvement on that end -- and the second unit's production to a lesser degree.

I think it's been discussed here plenty, but bigs -- by nature of the game -- have a much bigger impact on the defensive side of the ball than any other position. Countless examples of this can be provided. It's likely the main reason the Defensive Player of the Year award has gone to bigs (power forward/center) 28 out of 37 (76%) times the award has been presented.

Robert Covington is a very good team defender, but I don't believe him to be a complete difference-maker on that end. He'd have to be a Kawhi Leonard or Giannis Antetokounmpo level defender from the wing to truly be that. So, while he's a very nice commodity to have, I don't see him being the main cog in what appears to be an improved defensive team -- rather, I think he's a nice piece of it.

Meanwhile, this team is void of shot-creators, ball-handlers, and legitimate three-point shooters. Those are all skills that should, at the very least, be provided by the guard positions and Minnesota is VERY behind in this regard.
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I'm not a huge fan of D. Russell. But if the Wolves can get him in exchange for Covington and Teague, then the Wolves should pull the trigger on that deal without hesitation provided we keep Okogie. We'd need Okogie's defense given the poor defense we'd be getting from Russell and Wiggins. Russell's scoring and ball-handling would fit well with Okogie as a backcourt mate with Wiggins at SF. Russell has the size of a SG, so he could also be paired with a PG if we were to snag one in next June's draft. But I wouldn't give up a future 1st or Okogie for Russell and I'd be reluctant to part with Culver.
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