thedoper wrote:Ugh. It made me so mad at the time but we really should have handed over the whole franchise to him. I dont think I can cheer for this team until Glen sells.
Minnesota prefers hugs and kisses over wins. That's the way it goes. Fuck this franchise.
Yep fans bitched because for winning games for the 1st time in 15 years wasn't good enough because it wasn't pretty wins. Fuck that I want to be in the playoffs again
I don't agree with this at all.
Struggle through 15 years and throw it all in for one year where it was 100% obvious we would not contend? That's the right play?
Our organization panicked after Flip died and fucked up his final years of planning.
thedoper wrote:Ugh. It made me so mad at the time but we really should have handed over the whole franchise to him. I dont think I can cheer for this team until Glen sells.
Minnesota prefers hugs and kisses over wins. That's the way it goes. Fuck this franchise.
Yep fans bitched because for winning games for the 1st time in 15 years wasn't good enough because it wasn't pretty wins. Fuck that I want to be in the playoffs again
I don't agree with this at all.
Struggle through 15 years and throw it all in for one year where it was 100% obvious we would not contend? That's the right play?
Our organization panicked after Flip died and fucked up his final years of planning.
Now here we are..
1. It wasn't supposed to be only one year.
2. The Wolves STILL had two "potential superstars" and #1 picks on the roster after the trade. That was supposed to be the long-term plan/asset.
3. So was the trade the failure? Or, banking so much on Towns and Wiggins? After all, do we really think having LaVine and Kris Dunn and whoever at that pick would have been better than that Wolves team?
thedoper wrote:Ugh. It made me so mad at the time but we really should have handed over the whole franchise to him. I dont think I can cheer for this team until Glen sells.
Minnesota prefers hugs and kisses over wins. That's the way it goes. Fuck this franchise.
Yep fans bitched because for winning games for the 1st time in 15 years wasn't good enough because it wasn't pretty wins. Fuck that I want to be in the playoffs again
I don't agree with this at all.
Struggle through 15 years and throw it all in for one year where it was 100% obvious we would not contend? That's the right play?
Our organization panicked after Flip died and fucked up his final years of planning.
Now here we are..
1. It wasn't supposed to be only one year.
2. The Wolves STILL had two "potential superstars" and #1 picks on the roster after the trade. That was supposed to be the long-term plan/asset.
3. So was the trade the failure? Or, banking so much on Towns and Wiggins? After all, do we really think having LaVine and Kris Dunn and whoever at that pick would have been better than that Wolves team?
1) It was one year. Expecting anything else is nonsense.
2) Agreed. That is exactly my position. We accelerated our rebuild rather than letting it sort out. For what?
3) I was a Dunn fan. He sucks. LaVine on the otherhand would be absolutely perfect around KAT. I'd also prefer Markannen or whoever over a guy named Patton who is no longer here.
LaVine,Dunn (#5 pick the previous year), #7,#17, Butler, for RoCo, Saric (a trade up asset for Culver), and a playoff exit. That is what our franchise did.
thedoper wrote:Ugh. It made me so mad at the time but we really should have handed over the whole franchise to him. I dont think I can cheer for this team until Glen sells.
Minnesota prefers hugs and kisses over wins. That's the way it goes. Fuck this franchise.
Yep fans bitched because for winning games for the 1st time in 15 years wasn't good enough because it wasn't pretty wins. Fuck that I want to be in the playoffs again
I don't agree with this at all.
Struggle through 15 years and throw it all in for one year where it was 100% obvious we would not contend? That's the right play?
Our organization panicked after Flip died and fucked up his final years of planning.
Now here we are..
1. It wasn't supposed to be only one year.
2. The Wolves STILL had two "potential superstars" and #1 picks on the roster after the trade. That was supposed to be the long-term plan/asset.
3. So was the trade the failure? Or, banking so much on Towns and Wiggins? After all, do we really think having LaVine and Kris Dunn and whoever at that pick would have been better than that Wolves team?
1) It was one year. Expecting anything else is nonsense.
2) Agreed. That is exactly my position. We accelerated our rebuild rather than letting it sort out. For what?
3) I was a Dunn fan. He sucks. LaVine on the otherhand would be absolutely perfect around KAT. I'd also prefer Markannen or whoever over a guy named Patton who is no longer here.
LaVine,Dunn, #7,#17, Butler, for RoCo, Saric (a trade up for Culver), and a playoff exit. That is what our franchise did.
Yes but you can't use hindsight in every move.
That is like saying if we trade RoCo for a 1st and that first becomes the next Giannis. The butler trade is the greatest trade in history.
That is how silly using hindsight is, multiple moves down the road.
Also Lavine hasn't proven that he is a positive player.
Dunn is a backup PG
#7 pick was Lauri Markkanen and he is solid but not a needle mover.
#17 was a bust of a pick. Missed out on OG, Collins and Kuzma. Collins is the only one who could be a needle mover albeit small mover
We are in the same spot either way. Also Butler on this team had such a high ceiling
thedoper wrote:Ugh. It made me so mad at the time but we really should have handed over the whole franchise to him. I dont think I can cheer for this team until Glen sells.
Minnesota prefers hugs and kisses over wins. That's the way it goes. Fuck this franchise.
Yep fans bitched because for winning games for the 1st time in 15 years wasn't good enough because it wasn't pretty wins. Fuck that I want to be in the playoffs again
I don't agree with this at all.
Struggle through 15 years and throw it all in for one year where it was 100% obvious we would not contend? That's the right play?
Our organization panicked after Flip died and fucked up his final years of planning.
Now here we are..
1. It wasn't supposed to be only one year.
2. The Wolves STILL had two "potential superstars" and #1 picks on the roster after the trade. That was supposed to be the long-term plan/asset.
3. So was the trade the failure? Or, banking so much on Towns and Wiggins? After all, do we really think having LaVine and Kris Dunn and whoever at that pick would have been better than that Wolves team?
1) It was one year. Expecting anything else is nonsense.
Kudos to you for knowing ahead of time that Butler would implode the team even before the 2nd season started.
Personally, I was surprised by the nearly unprecedented power play...
thedoper wrote:Ugh. It made me so mad at the time but we really should have handed over the whole franchise to him. I dont think I can cheer for this team until Glen sells.
Minnesota prefers hugs and kisses over wins. That's the way it goes. Fuck this franchise.
Yep fans bitched because for winning games for the 1st time in 15 years wasn't good enough because it wasn't pretty wins. Fuck that I want to be in the playoffs again
I don't agree with this at all.
Struggle through 15 years and throw it all in for one year where it was 100% obvious we would not contend? That's the right play?
Our organization panicked after Flip died and fucked up his final years of planning.
Now here we are..
1. It wasn't supposed to be only one year.
2. The Wolves STILL had two "potential superstars" and #1 picks on the roster after the trade. That was supposed to be the long-term plan/asset.
3. So was the trade the failure? Or, banking so much on Towns and Wiggins? After all, do we really think having LaVine and Kris Dunn and whoever at that pick would have been better than that Wolves team?
1) It was one year. Expecting anything else is nonsense.
2) Agreed. That is exactly my position. We accelerated our rebuild rather than letting it sort out. For what?
3) I was a Dunn fan. He sucks. LaVine on the otherhand would be absolutely perfect around KAT. I'd also prefer Markannen or whoever over a guy named Patton who is no longer here.
LaVine,Dunn (#5 pick the previous year), #7,#17, Butler, for RoCo, Saric (a trade up asset for Culver), and a playoff exit. That is what our franchise did.
You're bringing it today man, and you are spot on.
thedoper wrote:Ugh. It made me so mad at the time but we really should have handed over the whole franchise to him. I dont think I can cheer for this team until Glen sells.
Minnesota prefers hugs and kisses over wins. That's the way it goes. Fuck this franchise.
Yep fans bitched because for winning games for the 1st time in 15 years wasn't good enough because it wasn't pretty wins. Fuck that I want to be in the playoffs again
I don't agree with this at all.
Struggle through 15 years and throw it all in for one year where it was 100% obvious we would not contend? That's the right play?
Our organization panicked after Flip died and fucked up his final years of planning.
Now here we are..
1. It wasn't supposed to be only one year.
2. The Wolves STILL had two "potential superstars" and #1 picks on the roster after the trade. That was supposed to be the long-term plan/asset.
3. So was the trade the failure? Or, banking so much on Towns and Wiggins? After all, do we really think having LaVine and Kris Dunn and whoever at that pick would have been better than that Wolves team?
1) It was one year. Expecting anything else is nonsense.
Kudos to you for knowing ahead of time that Butler would implode the team even before the 2nd season started.
Personally, I was surprised by the nearly unprecedented power play...
Nobody actually wants to come here. It should be obvious to any Minnesota sports fan. If you draft them, maybe they'll hold allegiance. Trade for them? Expect the quickest exit.
If they've been in the league and do not sign here in FA, they are not staying. That's reality.
thedoper wrote:Ugh. It made me so mad at the time but we really should have handed over the whole franchise to him. I dont think I can cheer for this team until Glen sells.
Minnesota prefers hugs and kisses over wins. That's the way it goes. Fuck this franchise.
Yep fans bitched because for winning games for the 1st time in 15 years wasn't good enough because it wasn't pretty wins. Fuck that I want to be in the playoffs again
I don't agree with this at all.
Struggle through 15 years and throw it all in for one year where it was 100% obvious we would not contend? That's the right play?
Our organization panicked after Flip died and fucked up his final years of planning.
Now here we are..
1. It wasn't supposed to be only one year.
2. The Wolves STILL had two "potential superstars" and #1 picks on the roster after the trade. That was supposed to be the long-term plan/asset.
3. So was the trade the failure? Or, banking so much on Towns and Wiggins? After all, do we really think having LaVine and Kris Dunn and whoever at that pick would have been better than that Wolves team?
1) It was one year. Expecting anything else is nonsense.
Kudos to you for knowing ahead of time that Butler would implode the team even before the 2nd season started.
Personally, I was surprised by the nearly unprecedented power play...
Nobody actually wants to come here. It should be obvious to any Minnesota sports fan. If you draft them, maybe they'll hold allegiance. Trade for them? Expect the quickest exit.
If they've been in the league and do not sign here in FA, they are not staying. That's reality.
