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monsterpile wrote:A couple things.

1. I didn't really dig into guys like Culver because I didn't really think we would be in a position to draft him or Hunter so...eh. That doesn't mean they aren't any good.

2. I'm agreeing with the Butler comps I thought that before they said that on the broadcast.

3. I know he didn't perform well shooting the ball his last 2 games but are we going to not give him credit for being on a team that was very good both years? they lost to Villanova his freshman year...There is no shame in that. They were also one of the best ranked defensive teams both years...Wolves do need defense.

Well, he was a poor shooter his entire sophomore season. I just don't see anything in his game - stats or eye test that suggests he will be anything more than a decent rotation player at the NBA level. I saw a lot more upside in a number of players taken from #11 on down. I would rather have any number of those guys and still have Saric as an asset. I'm just not impressed by what we saw from Rosas tonight. But I do like the Nowell pick - just like I like the KBD pick in the second round last season.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:You guys are all talking yourself into something that isn't real. This was a 3 player draft. After that there will surely be some guys that become good pros, but it's a true crapshoot. Further, I can pretty much guarantee you there will be players drafted after #6 that will be better than the #6. Why do you do this to yourselves? Last year Okogie was a great pick. Before that you were all pining for Dunn. Here's the truth, moving out of the middle of the NBA is very hard. Thibs put us there with his ill-advised trade for Butler. Players like Culver and Okogie are not going to get us out of too good and not good enough. We have to swing for the fences and tonight we opted for another try at a double.

I generally agree with you, Cool. My only quibble is that I do think drafting Okogie at #20 last year was in fact swinging for the fences. His 7'0 wingspan is off the charts for a SG and he tested out as the best athlete in the combine last season. He also had some impressive college stats to go with those exceptional physical attributes - including a 38% 3-point percentage, nearly steals per game, nearly 7 free throw attempts per game along with an 80% free throw percentage and 6.3 rebounds per game. AT #20, Okogie was clearly a swing for the fence pick. Culver at #6, however, looks like a weak safe swing for a single that will probably produce a solid rotation player off the bench. I just hope drafting him doesn't take playing time away from Okogie and thereby impede Okogie's development.

monsterpile wrote:This is an interesting breakdown from a former NBA guy about how he feels like Culver might be the best player in this draft. The Video is worth your time IMO.

https://www.lineups.com/articles/jarrett-culver-scouting-report-biggest-impact-nba-starting-lineup-nba-2019-draft/

I read the article again and noted this guy referring to Culver as having really big hands, reminding him of Kawhi Leonard. Wow. Culver's hands measured out at 8.25 X 8.5. That's not particularly big and definitively not nearly as big as Kawhi's hands. This guys really loves Culver and seems to exaggerate some of Culver's attributes. But again, I did see some things I liked in the video.

For once I get to be the optimistic one here.


Rosas not having a plan B once Garland got picked was worrisome, but this pick was very very good! Now when Wiggins sucks there's no reason to force feed him minutes anymore.

Culver's gonna be the star SG we need.

The rest of the things we need we'll have to rely on Rosas externally (sign Delgado please) but not everything will be fixed in 1 summer.

WildWolf2813 wrote:For once I get to be the optimistic one here.


Rosas not having a plan B once Garland got picked was worrisome, but this pick was very very good! Now when Wiggins sucks there's no reason to force feed him minutes anymore.

Culver's gonna be the star SG we need.

The rest of the things we need we'll have to rely on Rosas externally (sign Delgado please) but not everything will be fixed in 1 summer.

If Culver becomes a star, I'll buy you a beer. No, I'll buy you dinner with all the drinks you want to go with dinner at the venue of your choice. :)

Didn't we need a ball handling shooter and an athletic defensive big to compliment KAT?

If those are the priorities for free agency and they land those guys then this pick is fine. If it doesn't materialize this is going to get ugly quick on the court. I just don't see it now. If Culver can find minutes at the wing and mix shit up great. I just don't see how the impact is possible unless we stumble into a ball handler who can break down a defense. That's not Culver. I just want KAT to have an appropriate counterpart with the ball.

WildWolf2813 wrote:For once I get to be the optimistic one here.


Rosas not having a plan B once Garland got picked was worrisome, but this pick was very very good! Now when Wiggins sucks there's no reason to force feed him minutes anymore.

Culver's gonna be the star SG we need.

The rest of the things we need we'll have to rely on Rosas externally (sign Delgado please) but not everything will be fixed in 1 summer.

Do you own a timeshare on planet delusional?

Not sure what to think, as I didn't think much of his offensive capabilities when I saw him in the tournament, but then again, that is the only time I ever saw him play. I think Butler is a way-too-generous comparison. May be the NBA (not college) version of Evan Turner?

Defensively, I like the fact he comes from a program that was #1 in the country last year in Drtg and #10 the year before. Given the fact he's played the most minutes of any player on the squad, it seems like he is the real deal on that end of the floor. He comes from a culture where defense was the top priority, something our team desperately needs - even more than shooting and play making.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

WildWolf2813 wrote:For once I get to be the optimistic one here.


Rosas not having a plan B once Garland got picked was worrisome, but this pick was very very good! Now when Wiggins sucks there's no reason to force feed him minutes anymore.

Culver's gonna be the star SG we need.

The rest of the things we need we'll have to rely on Rosas externally (sign Delgado please) but not everything will be fixed in 1 summer.

Do you own a timeshare on planet delusional?

What's delusional about what I'm saying?

You know what's delusional? People lamenting the loss of Dario Saric as if we were so committed to wanting him around long term. We wanted him around so bad we were assuming the 11th pick was gonna be a big man. You know what's delusional? If we had walked away from this draft with Brandon Clarke and re-signed Tyus Jones and ignored the fact that both of them can't shoot from outside. You know what's delusional? If Rosas had drafted Tyler Herro (who I really liked) and glossed over the fact that he shot a worse percentage his freshman year from 3 than Culver did and also struggles when contested. You know what's delusional? All this D'Angelo Russell chatter.

I'm as negative and as pessimistic as anyone here and would have gladly ripped the pick if I hated it. I don't hate this pick. If that makes me delusional, then you guys are nuts.

This is a pretty logical breakdown of Culvers abilities and stats:

https://fansided.com/2019/04/10/jarrett-culver-modern-nba-wing/fanside link