Shabazz is bought out

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He's going to Milwaukee once he clears waivers. That was fast.
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According to the article, the Wolves bought out Bazz so he can sign with a playoff contender. Lol. I didn't realize the Wolves aren't a playoff contender this season. Does Bazz know something we don't? Bazz obviously wants playing time -- something Thibs clearly wasn't going to give him here. I can't say losing Bazz will negatively impact the Wolves -- unless of course Crawford twists and ankle in which case we have no scoring wings off the bench.
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apparently going to the bucks.

the bucks waived kilpatrick.

we should actually bring him in and cut down crawfords minutes. when his shot isn't on, he kills us because we run everything through him regardless of how hes shooting.
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lipoli390 wrote:I don't understand releasing Bazz when we already have an open roster spot and our starting SF is out for probably the rest of the season. I've been intrigued by Anthony Brown, but I wouldn't bet on him being a positive contributor.


Good for both sides. It at least gives him the opportunity to find a new role on another team. For us, it trims the fat on this team. It doesn't change much, I understand that, but honestly, we should have done this months ago.
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Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:I don't understand releasing Bazz when we already have an open roster spot and our starting SF is out for probably the rest of the season. I've been intrigued by Anthony Brown, but I wouldn't bet on him being a positive contributor.


Good for both sides. It at least gives him the opportunity to find a new role on another team. For us, it trims the fat on this team. It doesn't change much, I understand that, but honestly, we should have done this months ago.


Trimming the fat? That makes no sense to me. Bazz is a wing who has proven that he can score and rebound at the NBA level. With Butler out and Belly starting, we have no one other than Crawford who can score off the bench. Jamaal doesn't reabound and is highly streaky as a scorer. Given that context and the fact that we already have one open roster spot, buying out Bazz made no sense. Was he getting in the way of MGH? Of course not. I think MGH got 3 minutes tonight against Portland even with Bazz gone. I'm not praising Bazz, but he is someone who could make a positive difference for this team, with a big bucket or rebound off the bench down the stretch while Butler is out. Buying him out was a nice gesture to Bazz, but a nonsensical move for the Wolves.
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Here's an interesting angle. The Wolves selected Bazz instead of Giannis, who the Bucks then selected one pick later. The Bucks now have both players.
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lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:I don't understand releasing Bazz when we already have an open roster spot and our starting SF is out for probably the rest of the season. I've been intrigued by Anthony Brown, but I wouldn't bet on him being a positive contributor.


Good for both sides. It at least gives him the opportunity to find a new role on another team. For us, it trims the fat on this team. It doesn't change much, I understand that, but honestly, we should have done this months ago.


Trimming the fat? That makes no sense to me. Bazz is a wing who has proven that he can score and rebound at the NBA level. With Butler out and Belly starting, we have no one other than Crawford who can score off the bench. Jamaal doesn't reabound and is highly streaky as a scorer. Given that context and the fact that we already have one open roster spot, buying out Bazz made no sense. Was he getting in the way of MGH? Of course not. I think MGH got 3 minutes tonight against Portland even with Bazz gone. I'm not praising Bazz, but he is someone who could make a positive difference for this team, with a big bucket or rebound off the bench down the stretch while Butler is out. Buying him out was a nice gesture to Bazz, but a nonsensical move for the Wolves.


The only thing that Muhammad has proven in the NBA, in my mind, is that he's a massive net negative when he's on the floor. Whatever individual statistics he produces is negated by the detrimental effect he has on the team -- on both ends of the floor. We agreed to buy out arguably one of the worst players in the game and I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Bazz wanted to be on another team. Taylor said they weren't going to let him go unless he found another team. He found another team and he got to move on. None of the reports about Bazz said he was a problem within the team he just wanted out. I can't blame him even if he isn't good. He did enough in the past as a scorer to think he could do that for another team. Sadly it didn't work out. The good news is we don't have to pay him next year whether he was on the team or not. I wish the guy the best. He seems like a good guy and even if he thinks he is better than he is it's not like the guy didn't work hard or didn't care about the game. The Bucks have cycled through a bit of lower level wings and Bazz is next Kilpatrick was the latest to be let go. I remember when there was some angst from various Wolves fans and Wolfson about why we didn't pick up Kilpatrick. Look up his shooting stats he hasn't been very good. I'd rather play guys we already have and see if they could do better than that.
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Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:I don't understand releasing Bazz when we already have an open roster spot and our starting SF is out for probably the rest of the season. I've been intrigued by Anthony Brown, but I wouldn't bet on him being a positive contributor.


Good for both sides. It at least gives him the opportunity to find a new role on another team. For us, it trims the fat on this team. It doesn't change much, I understand that, but honestly, we should have done this months ago.


Trimming the fat? That makes no sense to me. Bazz is a wing who has proven that he can score and rebound at the NBA level. With Butler out and Belly starting, we have no one other than Crawford who can score off the bench. Jamaal doesn't reabound and is highly streaky as a scorer. Given that context and the fact that we already have one open roster spot, buying out Bazz made no sense. Was he getting in the way of MGH? Of course not. I think MGH got 3 minutes tonight against Portland even with Bazz gone. I'm not praising Bazz, but he is someone who could make a positive difference for this team, with a big bucket or rebound off the bench down the stretch while Butler is out. Buying him out was a nice gesture to Bazz, but a nonsensical move for the Wolves.


The only thing that Muhammad has proven in the NBA, in my mind, is that he's a massive net negative when he's on the floor. Whatever individual statistics he produces is negated by the detrimental effect he has on the team -- on both ends of the floor. We agreed to buy out arguably one of the worst players in the game and I don't see anything wrong with that.


Hard to argue with this.....he messes up spacing, can't shoot the 3, can't handle the ball, and pursues offensive rebounds which can cost us points in transition. Oh, and he is a terrible passer that often turns the ball over because he charges into awaiting defenders.
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Bazz "proven ability" was scoring in his own unique way. I probably shouldn't be too much a shock that skill isn't as valuable as the league has changed. Plus he simply wasn't good this year. As a scorer his efficiency this is comparable or even worse than MGH which...is very bad. I don't even think the people that didn't like Bazz saw it going as bad this year as it did. I was really excited about him coming back but the possibility of it not working out was always there. Cleveland is one other team that has brought back or added young players and they simply didn't work out or get better. Fortunately the Wolves didn't lose out financially and also any player they missed out on signing because they signed Bazz they will likely have the opportunity to bring in next year.
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