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Choosing between Gorgui and Bazz, Gorgui is the easy choice. Will it take the max to re-sign him? Maybe. But I think we could re-sign him for slightly less. It will be interesting to see what the new CBA contains. Hopefully, it will allow teams to extend more than one draft pick to the 5 year rather than 4 year deal. If so, that's another advantage we'd have convincing Gorgui to stay here for less than the max. I like Bazz, but I don't see how we can afford to re-sign both unless we can keep Bazz for under $10 million per year.

I see Wiggins and LaVine commanding max contracts. They KAT will command a max deal the following year. Signing those three to max deals and Gorgui to a near max deal will make it hard for the Wolves to avoid the luxury tax. We'll see how things go. I'm hoping some of these guys will take slight discounts to stay here and stay together wishing pushing us into the luxury tax zone.

Giving Dieng the max or near the max would be idiotic. If he gets that in the open market let him. He's becoming a nice player but his contributions can be replaced in free agency.

I'm not going to go back and dig out the salary cap thread, but we are only going to be able to sign one of Gorgui, Bazz and Ricky (when his contract is up) if G and Bazz command large contracts. Here's whar I guess is going to happen. As a complete 2-way 6'11" player, I'm afraid Gorgui will earn close to a max contract...I don't think the Wolves can afford to pay him anything close to a max if they also want to gave max or near max contracts to KAT, Wig and Zach. So Gorgui will be gone. Bazz is a scorer who really doesn't help a team much beyond that, so I think we will be able to sign him as a 6th man for a medium-sized contract. Then, there's Rubio. My hope is that Ricky will enjoy the success the Wolves are enjoying, and grant a home town discount that will allow the wolves to stay under the lux threshold...I think that's the only way they keep him.

This roster is set up for many years of success and even challenging for multiple championships. But salary cap management is going to be the key to continued success, and as much as I like Gorgui, I don't see a reasonable way of keeping him at the salary he is going to command.

longstrangetrip wrote:I'm not going to go back and dig out the salary cap thread, but we are only going to be able to sign one of Gorgui, Bazz and Ricky (when his contract is up) if G and Bazz command large contracts. Here's whar I guess is going to happen. As a complete 2-way 6'11" player, I'm afraid Gorgui will earn close to a max contract...I don't think the Wolves can afford to pay him anything close to a max if they also want to gave max or near max contracts to KAT, Wig and Zach. So Gorgui will be gone. Bazz is a scorer who really doesn't help a team much beyond that, so I think we will be able to sign him as a 6th man for a medium-sized contract. Then, there's Rubio. My hope is that Ricky will enjoy the success the Wolves are enjoying, and grant a home town discount that will allow the wolves to stay under the lux threshold...I think that's the only way they keep him.

This roster is set up for many years of success and even challenging for multiple championships. But salary cap management is going to be the key to continued success, and as much as I like Gorgui, I don't see a reasonable way of keeping him at the salary he is going to command.

That's a realistic, yet depressing take LST. I wonder what the new deal is going to do for teams who want to hold on to their players. I'm betting Paul Allen would find a way to keep Gorgui along with our big 3.

It's just really hard to wrap my mind around all the numbers they have jumped so much. In addition it's quite possible the cap will keep rising at a pretty healthy rate. Let's say we sign Dieng to a straight up 19 million per year similar to what Biyombo got last year at 17 million per but I added 2 million for the cap going up again. Let's say the cap keeps going up. And teams are basically paying at lest 15 million for anyone that's starting caliber player and mid level is around 10 million. Maybe Dieng would be seemingly affordable. Think about how we thought the money Prk got was way too much at the time. Obviously it was still a bad contract because of health but right now if he was even able to play 55 games effectively he would be a big time bargain and a maybe even a trade chip. It's all kinda relative and difficult to really know what the Wolves and other team what they should do. Let's hope Dieng wants to come back and signs a healthy but someone what manageable deal before he hits RFA assuming he plays well this season and proves to be a legit piece going forward. If things go well there will be lots of guys to worry about paying.

If I had to choose between the two, it's Dieng hands down. Since the 2nd half of last year when Mitchell began pairing him up next to KAT and Zach moved to SG full time, he's evolved into really becoming our glue guy. He keeps the ball moving on offense, hits open mid-range jumpers, makes the extra pass, can score when he has to, etc.

Defensively he's still not great, but he definitely did better last year once he wasn't the sole big man tasked with anchoring the paint. Hopefully with the added muscle he put on this offseason he can do a better job holding his ground in the paint.

Q12543 wrote:If I had to choose between the two, it's Dieng hands down. Since the 2nd half of last year when Mitchell began pairing him up next to KAT and Zach moved to SG full time, he's evolved into really becoming our glue guy. He keeps the ball moving on offense, hits open mid-range jumpers, makes the extra pass, can score when he has to, etc.

Defensively he's still not great, but he definitely did better last year once he wasn't the sole big man tasked with anchoring the paint. Hopefully with the added muscle he put on this offseason he can do a better job holding his ground in the paint.

Actually, I think Dieng has defended very well this pre-season. But the new defensive schemes may be part of that, plus we have to see if it carries over into the regular season.

After they hit their second contract (or third in Ricky's case)

KAT - $30 mil
LaVine]- $25 mil
Wig - $25 mil
Ricky - $15 mil
Gorgy - $18 mil
Belly - $10 mil
Dunn - $15 mil
Bazz - $10 mil
Aldrich - $8 mil

Its going to be tough to keep everyone....
$156 mil

I'm starting to think Wiggins is the odd man out.......I don't want to lose Ricky for some reason. He's the heart ans soul. Hopefully he'll give us a deal and sign for $15 mill a year....

Wiggins motor is the question mark....

maelstrom11 wrote:After they hit their second contract (or third in Ricky's case)

KAT - $30 mil
LaVine]- $25 mil
Wig - $25 mil
Ricky - $15 mil
Gorgy - $18 mil
Belly - $10 mil
Dunn - $15 mil
Bazz - $10 mil
Aldrich - $8 mil

Its going to be tough to keep everyone....
$156 mil

I'm starting to think Wiggins is the odd man out.......I don't want to lose Ricky for some reason. He's the heart ans soul. Hopefully he'll give us a deal and sign for $15 mill a year....

Wiggins motor is the question mark....

No way Wolves are going to keep both Rubio and Dunn on big contracts. It's OK now with Dunn on a rookie deal. But in 3-4 years the choice would have to be made.

thedoper wrote:Giving Dieng the max or near the max would be idiotic. If he gets that in the open market let him. He's becoming a nice player but his contributions can be replaced in free agency.

It's not idiotic at all. A good two-way big is an asset even on a big contract. You can trade him when the payroll in getting out of hand and get other assets. You don't let good players go because of money.