Keeping Dieng and Bazz Long Term

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Keeping Dieng and Bazz Long Term

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I'm going to assume we would be lucky enough to sign one of these guys past their original contract. So if we had to focus on one, who would it be?

My appreciation for Dieng is growing by the game. I believe the organization's willingness to pay him is going to be a huge key for us in terms of becoming champions. Some of you guys that are much more in tune with our cap and the luxury tax details can probably add quite a bit here. I know he's heading for a big payday, but will it be too big for us? How big of a factor is timing going to be in trying to get him resigned? It would be a shame to get him fully developed and then leave for nothing.
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Has to be Dieng. I look forward to a KAT/Dieng front court pairing for many years. Having two bigs who can stretch the floor, make free throws, defend, rebound, and pass is something we should not let slip away.
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I don't know how they don't keep Dieng at this point. He just seems like just the type of hardworking complimentary player this team needs and a big guy that can keep Towns from having to play the big centers every possession etc. he is gonna get a bunch of money but unless he gets to RFA and some team gives him a max deal which seems unlikely I think he will be worth it. It will be interesting to see how it plays out though.

Bazz? Tough to say because I have no idea what his value around the league will be and how much money he will get. It looks like Thibs values him so it will be interesting. RFA could help keep him as teams may not want to try and pry him away with a big offer and have to wait to see what happens while other guys get signed.

I think part of what you have to hope for is that there is a bunch of FAs that other teams want and one or both guys get lost in the mix. I am not sure on the rules but either or both guys could just sign deals with the Wolves early on right?
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No way they keep both but I think it'll be unanimous they should do what they have to to keep G in the fold with the sole exception being if it will mean they're unable to sign the big 3 over the next couple years.
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Would you give gorgui the max? That could be the going rate for him.
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kekgeek1 wrote:Would you give gorgui the max? That could be the going rate for him.


Depends how much improvement he shows under Thibs. The first max isn't nearly as punitive as the second in terms of being able to make other moves.
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khans2k5 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Would you give gorgui the max? That could be the going rate for him.


Depends how much improvement he shows under Thibs. The first max isn't nearly as punitive as the second in terms of being able to make other moves.


If they think G is going to get a max deal on the open market then as much as I hate to say it, see what you can get for him. I like G and think he's a great supporting player, but not the type of player who you consider a part of a big # core. Unless Glenn is willing to go into the tax to win it all my biggest fear is signing supporting players to crippling contracts.

G is a damn good player but I don't think you win in today's NBA with a team built around two bigs. I believe they'd be better off trading him (and more?) for a stud wing and slotting Belly in as the stretch 4.

Playing pretend GM is always fun, but in reality with this core I'm glad I'm not the one making these make or break decisions!
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TheSP wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Would you give gorgui the max? That could be the going rate for him.


Depends how much improvement he shows under Thibs. The first max isn't nearly as punitive as the second in terms of being able to make other moves.


If they think G is going to get a max deal on the open market then as much as I hate to say it, see what you can get for him. I like G and think he's a great supporting player, but not the type of player who you consider a part of a big # core. Unless Glenn is willing to go into the tax to win it all my biggest fear is signing supporting players to crippling contracts.

G is a damn good player but I don't think you win in today's NBA with a team built around two bigs. I believe they'd be better off trading him (and more?) for a stud wing and slotting Belly in as the stretch 4.

Playing pretend GM is always fun, but in reality with this core I'm glad I'm not the one making these make or break decisions!

He's awfully good though, and he keeps on getting better. He's the type of player you look for when you want to supplement your big 3. I hope they figure out a way to make it work.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
TheSP wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Would you give gorgui the max? That could be the going rate for him.


Depends how much improvement he shows under Thibs. The first max isn't nearly as punitive as the second in terms of being able to make other moves.


If they think G is going to get a max deal on the open market then as much as I hate to say it, see what you can get for him. I like G and think he's a great supporting player, but not the type of player who you consider a part of a big # core. Unless Glenn is willing to go into the tax to win it all my biggest fear is signing supporting players to crippling contracts.

G is a damn good player but I don't think you win in today's NBA with a team built around two bigs. I believe they'd be better off trading him (and more?) for a stud wing and slotting Belly in as the stretch 4.

Playing pretend GM is always fun, but in reality with this core I'm glad I'm not the one making these make or break decisions!

He's awfully good though, and he keeps on getting better. He's the type of player you look for when you want to supplement your big 3. I hope they figure out a way to make it work.


I agree completely, love G as both a player and great guy! If they can make it work without limiting themselves going forward I'm all in. I just get concerned with the idea that a max contract could make it really tough to maneuver once the big three get their 2nd contracts and the team is looking for pieces that will allow them to challenge for a title. Max players typically want max years to go with it.
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TheSP wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
TheSP wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Would you give gorgui the max? That could be the going rate for him.


Depends how much improvement he shows under Thibs. The first max isn't nearly as punitive as the second in terms of being able to make other moves.


If they think G is going to get a max deal on the open market then as much as I hate to say it, see what you can get for him. I like G and think he's a great supporting player, but not the type of player who you consider a part of a big # core. Unless Glenn is willing to go into the tax to win it all my biggest fear is signing supporting players to crippling contracts.

G is a damn good player but I don't think you win in today's NBA with a team built around two bigs. I believe they'd be better off trading him (and more?) for a stud wing and slotting Belly in as the stretch 4.

Playing pretend GM is always fun, but in reality with this core I'm glad I'm not the one making these make or break decisions!

He's awfully good though, and he keeps on getting better. He's the type of player you look for when you want to supplement your big 3. I hope they figure out a way to make it work.


I agree completely, love G as both a player and great guy! If they can make it work without limiting themselves going forward I'm all in. I just get concerned with the idea that a max contract could make it really tough to maneuver once the big three get their 2nd contracts and the team is looking for pieces that will allow them to challenge for a title. Max players typically want max years to go with it.


I find it a bit hard to believe Dieng is gonna get the max. What really good but not all star level big got the max this year? I can't think of one right now. Some guys like Biyombo and Mosgov got paid but they still didn't get the max. Does someone have what the max number would actually be for Dieng?
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