Mikkeman wrote:Some tidbits for this nice thread that Abe started.
Could Wolves just go and hire Dallas shooting coach?
DeAndre Jordan has hit 26/30 of his free throws. In all fairness his improvement in free throw shooting started already in last season while he was still Clipper and hit career high 58% of his free throws. Still probability that 58% free throw shooter hits 26/30 of his free throws is around 1.5%.
He has also already 19 assists in six games (got almost triple double in his last game) that is more than he had total in 4th season after playing 66 games and almost 1800 minutes.
Milwaukee is currently ranked 2nd in 3P attempts share of all field goal attempts after finishing 25th last season. They replaced Terry, Maker and Sterling with Lopez, Ilyasova and DiVincenzo in their rotation which has some effect for their shooting but all other 6 rotation are same than last year and are now just shooting more three pointers.
I apologize... but I had nothing else here. It's Milwaukee for chrissakes.
Players matter too??
Cleveland is currently ranked dead last in same 3P attempts category after finishing 5th and 2nd in last two seasons. They are last even tough all their best three pointer shooters from last season are still in their roster. (Korver, Love, Smith, Clarkson and Osman all shot three pointers better percentage than LeBron with higher amount of attempts per 36 minutes last year). Obviously now they won't have LeBron driving and passing ball to open player when double teamed, which has dramatic effect for three point shot attempts volume.
Which team has modern offense?
Golden State and Minnesota have currently almost identical amount of three point attempts per game. Golden State is ranked currently 20th and Minnesota 21st in three point attempts per game.
Why KAT can't be consistent?
Because:
The best player on the team cut his passes per game to KAT by 50% (year over year)
The Starting PG of the team cut his passes p/g to KAT by 30%
The coach cut the playing time of the lineup in which KAT played very successfully with the 2nd PG of the team by 60%
The coach cut KAT's P&R (roll-man) possessions by 60% despite the fact that P&R possessions were KAT's best and most productive play-type
Rose received more passes per game, has attempted more FGA/poss and has a higher USG% than KAT.
And all the above happened under a coach who is known to be a control freak
So, who is responsible for this mess?
And some best and worst players' metrics:
Best Net Rating: Jones +6.5
Worst Net Rating Okogie -10.5, (Teag -9.5)
Best Offensive Rating Wiggs 121
Worst Offensive Rating Okogie 97
Best Defensive Rating Jones 98
Worst Defensive Rating Teag 119
I will not be surprised if Teag will become, defensively, our new Crawford (Crawford is much nicer)
Why KAT can't be consistent?
Because:
The best player on the team cut his passes per game to KAT by 50% (year over year)
The Starting PG of the team cut his passes p/g to KAT by 30%
The coach cut the playing time of the lineup in which KAT played very successfully with the 2nd PG of the team by 60%
The coach cut KAT's P&R (roll-man) possessions by 60% despite the fact that P&R possessions were KAT's best and most productive play-type
Rose received more passes per game, has attempted more FGA/poss and has a higher USG% than KAT.
And all the above happened under a coach who is known to be a control freak
So, who is responsible for this mess?
And some best and worst players' metrics:
Best Net Rating: Jones +6.5
Worst Net Rating Okogie -10.5, (Teag -9.5)
Best Offensive Rating Wiggs 121
Worst Offensive Rating Okogie 97
Best Defensive Rating Jones 98
Worst Defensive Rating Teag 119
I will not be surprised if Teag will become, defensively, our new Crawford (Crawford is much nicer)
Sure would be nice to have Rubio instead of Teague...
I think teams have adjusted their defense to guard Golden State very aggressively on the perimeter, which has reduced their reliance on 3's. This trend started last year. However, what makes them the best team in the world is that Durant, Curry, and Klay are pure shooters from any distance. So when they get run off the 3 point line and have to step in to take an open18-footer, they are still hitting a high percentage. You do that to someone like Trevor Ariza and he will brick that 18-footer because he's not a pure shooter, just someone that has molded himself into a catch-and-shoot guy from 3 point land.
Q there is much more simple answer. It was brought up a number of times on the dunc' On podcast last year that other than those 3 great shooters the Warriors don't have much. When one of them is out of the lineup it really changes things. This season other than those 3 shooter the Warrior have made 14 threes this season. Tolliver has made 12.
You nailed why that team is so dangerous though.
Edit:
Wolves bench is 6th in the NBA in 3pts attempts with 13.8. Warriors are dead last with 5.6 almost 3 attempts less than the Clippers bench who are 29th.
I don't know how a team can possibly allow a player to launch 24 3's. I mean, that is worse than any Wolves defensive performance I can remember, including the shit show season we had when Wiggins and LaVine were rookies.
I wonder if LaVine has gone full Crawford defensively. He's at a stage in his career where this aspect of his game should be coming around, but perhaps it's a lost cause. It's too bad because he can be damn near elite offensively.
Q12543 wrote:I don't know how a team can possibly allow a player to launch 24 3's. I mean, that is worse than any Wolves defensive performance I can remember, including the shit show season we had when Wiggins and LaVine were rookies.
I wonder if LaVine has gone full Crawford defensively. He's at a stage in his career where this aspect of his game should be coming around, but perhaps it's a lost cause. It's too bad because he can be damn near elite offensively.
I'm not gonna defend Lavine's defense too much but the guys he is out there with right now...aren't good. Name the guys available on that roster that are starting level players on a good team. Lopez didn't play. It's a young squad and it has some level of promise but like you referenced the young Wolves of a few years ago...it's gonna be rough especially missing some guys with injuries even if they are also young players.
Q12543 wrote:I don't know how a team can possibly allow a player to launch 24 3's. I mean, that is worse than any Wolves defensive performance I can remember, including the shit show season we had when Wiggins and LaVine were rookies.
I wonder if LaVine has gone full Crawford defensively. He's at a stage in his career where this aspect of his game should be coming around, but perhaps it's a lost cause. It's too bad because he can be damn near elite offensively.
Until Lavine learns to be a playmaker he'll never be elite offensively at his size. He'll be a really good scorer, but the guy routinely kills an offense. With his ability to break down defenses with speed and his handle, it's always been a shame that he has no idea about how to involve the players around him. I think Flip was right to try and force him to be a playmaker, Mitchell too but he probably didn't have the skills that Flip had to actually teach him what to do.
