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alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:I've always lowkey liked Josh Smith, but he's an awful fit for this team, in my opinion. Give me Thaddeus Young and let's head into the season with something to prove. Highly hypothetical, but how awesome would it be if Flip got this team back to 40 wins.


0% chance. Kevin Martin is the teams best offensive weapon.


Team's much better on defense and should be deeper. Also will have a more interested coach.
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Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:I've always lowkey liked Josh Smith, but he's an awful fit for this team, in my opinion. Give me Thaddeus Young and let's head into the season with something to prove. Highly hypothetical, but how awesome would it be if Flip got this team back to 40 wins.


0% chance. Kevin Martin is the teams best offensive weapon.


Team's much better on defense and should be deeper. Also will have a more interested coach.


How are the Wolves much better at defense?
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alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:I've always lowkey liked Josh Smith, but he's an awful fit for this team, in my opinion. Give me Thaddeus Young and let's head into the season with something to prove. Highly hypothetical, but how awesome would it be if Flip got this team back to 40 wins.


0% chance. Kevin Martin is the teams best offensive weapon.


Team's much better on defense and should be deeper. Also will have a more interested coach.


How are the Wolves much better at defense?


Wiggins > Brewer (though I realize AW hasn't played an NBA minute yet)

Young > Love

Dieng should also be more utlized as the first big off the bench. Last year, it was Cunningham a lot of the time.
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It also could be Brewer off the bench for Martin. We should certainly be better defensively.
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Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:I've always lowkey liked Josh Smith, but he's an awful fit for this team, in my opinion. Give me Thaddeus Young and let's head into the season with something to prove. Highly hypothetical, but how awesome would it be if Flip got this team back to 40 wins.


0% chance. Kevin Martin is the teams best offensive weapon.


Team's much better on defense and should be deeper. Also will have a more interested coach.


How are the Wolves much better at defense?


Wiggins > Brewer (though I realize AW hasn't played an NBA minute yet)

Young > Love

Dieng should also be more utlized as the first big off the bench. Last year, it was Cunningham a lot of the time.


Who was the last rookie to make a huge defensive impact? It's foolish to think Wiggins will be able to be a shutdown guy at this level without getting burned or into foul trouble. Dieng was suppose to be a impact defensive guy right away too, but he wasn't

I don't see how either Young or Bennett is any kind of upgrade over Love on D
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alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:I've always lowkey liked Josh Smith, but he's an awful fit for this team, in my opinion. Give me Thaddeus Young and let's head into the season with something to prove. Highly hypothetical, but how awesome would it be if Flip got this team back to 40 wins.


0% chance. Kevin Martin is the teams best offensive weapon.


Team's much better on defense and should be deeper. Also will have a more interested coach.


How are the Wolves much better at defense?


Wiggins > Brewer (though I realize AW hasn't played an NBA minute yet)

Young > Love

Dieng should also be more utlized as the first big off the bench. Last year, it was Cunningham a lot of the time.


Who was the last rookie to make a huge defensive impact? It's foolish to think Wiggins will be able to be a shutdown guy at this level without getting burned or into foul trouble. Dieng was suppose to be a impact defensive guy right away too, but he wasn't

I don't see how either Young or Bennett is any kind of upgrade over Love on D


I didn't say Wiggins would be Paul George or LeBron James on defense his rookie year. I said he'd be better than Brewer, which I don't see as unreasonable. He plays better fundamental defense, in my opinion. Also, comparing a wing defender to a rim protector is really tough.

What we lose in defensing rebounding with Love, Young makes up for it with his ability to end offensive possessions in other ways (steals, blocks, charges taken). Not to mention Young's a really good P&R defender; he's leaps and bounds better at this than Love. Do you remember how many times last year we got torched by opposing PGs? I blame a LOT of that on the P&R defense from our bigs.
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Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Camden wrote:I've always lowkey liked Josh Smith, but he's an awful fit for this team, in my opinion. Give me Thaddeus Young and let's head into the season with something to prove. Highly hypothetical, but how awesome would it be if Flip got this team back to 40 wins.


0% chance. Kevin Martin is the teams best offensive weapon.


Team's much better on defense and should be deeper. Also will have a more interested coach.


How are the Wolves much better at defense?


Wiggins > Brewer (though I realize AW hasn't played an NBA minute yet)

Young > Love

Dieng should also be more utlized as the first big off the bench. Last year, it was Cunningham a lot of the time.


Who was the last rookie to make a huge defensive impact? It's foolish to think Wiggins will be able to be a shutdown guy at this level without getting burned or into foul trouble. Dieng was suppose to be a impact defensive guy right away too, but he wasn't

I don't see how either Young or Bennett is any kind of upgrade over Love on D


I didn't say Wiggins would be Paul George or LeBron James on defense his rookie year. I said he'd be better than Brewer, which I don't see as unreasonable. He plays better fundamental defense, in my opinion. Also, comparing a wing defender to a rim protector is really tough.

What we lose in defensing rebounding with Love, Young makes up for it with his ability to end offensive possessions in other ways (steals, blocks, charges taken). Not to mention Young's a really good P&R defender; he's leaps and bounds better at this than Love. Do you remember how many times last year we got torched by opposing PGs? I blame a LOT of that on the P&R defense from our bigs.


I put a lot of blame on Ricky and Brewer as well for going for stupid steals that left the D wide open as well. Ill still add the things that Love does that should qualify as D, such as putting the other teams bigs in foul trouble, as well as wearing them out on the defensive side by having to guard him all over the court.

Also not sure where I saw this, but I think Love was like 4th in charges taken by big men last year. Can't confirm it though
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Do we have any euro-stashed PF options?
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bleedspeed177 wrote:Do we have any euro-stashed PF options?


Yes

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nemanja-Bjelica-5510/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Bojan-Dubljevic-6317/

Flip has mentioned both of these guys as players who can play in the league but won't be able to get out of their contracts and he said will want more salary than the Wolves had this year. I'm most intruiged by Bojan.
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bleedspeed177 wrote:Do we have any euro-stashed PF options?


Bojan Dubljevi? is a stud, but I'm not sure when he'll be brought over. I'd still draft a PF in next year's draft, though.
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