Why dont we want Waiters?

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

I don't want Waiters for a number of reasons. The closest comparison I've come up with is Rashad McCants. Both are 6"4 and athletic. They have very similar stats per minute and similar shooting, 3 point and free throw percentages. They both were bench players in college and pros and both wanted to start. Both seemed a bit malcontent with their roles and both have been accused of dogging it on the defensive end. My fear is Waiters has the potential to hurt team chemistry and he's really not that special of player to risk that. I'd like to eventually see Ricky, LaVine, Wiggins as eventual starters and Waiters just seems more of a roadblock to their development than a help. He's made it clear he doesn't want to be a bench player and I don't see him as a good fit to start here.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Waiters reminds me of Eric Gordon when he was in LA. I don't really like the McCants comparison, but maybe that's just me.

[worldK]

I dont mind waiters but its more of I dont see him/ want him in our long term plans. I see wiggins/lavine as our starting wings for the future. I see waiters as an asset that could get us another piece like thad young thad could round out the roster. If cavs send waiters our way, I will gladly take him and see if we can swing him for a different piece.

Im actually comfortable with martin as place holder for the sg spot before lavine is ready. Martin could also mentor lavine while waiters needs mentoring more than being one.

I know lavine hasnt play an actual nba game yet whereas waiters has proven he belongs in the league already. But i just feel grooming lavine makes more sense for us. I like waiters, but if he could get us thad young then il do it in a heartbeat. Just personal preference and nothing againts waiters game or character.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Waiters has more value than Young, though, which is why I'd hold on to him. Well, that and because I like his game and his youth. If (When) LaVine shows the capability of locking up a guard spot for the future, then you can flip Waiters for value, whether that's picks or a promising player at a different position. Right now we need to obtain as much value as possible and if Waiters is on the table, that would mean putting him in my (Flip's) pocket.

[worldK]

Cam, waiters having more value than young is debatable. That debate can go for a long time so lets just chalk it up to personal preference.

Its my stand that if we can get waiters from the cavs, we do it and look to swing dion for another asset.

[KiwiMatt]

I see Waiters as more of an asset than a player of the future for us. I would only want to acquire him based on us being able to ship out Martin. Couldn't think of anything worse than watching Waiters value diminish as he cries about not starting and causing rifts within the squad. I also believe we have our starting SG of the future - Zac 'you know ' LeVine.

[Monster]

Waiters as others have stated brings up issues with how he fits. My issue with him without really knowing his game is that he is a stronger built guy but tops out at 6'4" with a poor standing reach (Gary Harris length) so I might say Waiters is a combo guard. Well that's nice he might be a good 6th man. He has said he wants to start. I looked that up and what I read made it sound like he wanted to start like any comptetive guy would. It sounded like if the guys in front of him were good and he got minutes he MIGHT be happy. There has been a lot of noise about him and then his teammates from last year say its all good. Whatever the main thing for me is I don't know where he fits on this team. We don't know what this trade is going to bring over we don't know what Flip wants or values and we don't know how the Cavs feel about some of these guys. Maybe neither the Wolves or the Cavs really value Waiters so they are trying to get the Sixers to take a lot back in a trade to get him and give Thad to the Wolves. Lol Who the heck knows. What day is it in Wiggins countdown anyway? Every Wolves fan would use that remote from the movie "Click" right now to forward ahead a few days. Lol

[TheGrey08]

Cam, waiters having more value than young is debatable. That debate can go for a long time so lets just chalk it up to personal preference.

Its my stand that if we can get waiters from the cavs, we do it and look to swing dion for another asset.

Waiters - a young talent on a rookie contract with a team option for the following season.
Young - a good vet that can opt out after the season and walk away.

Is it really debatable who has more value?

[Monster]

Cam, waiters having more value than young is debatable. That debate can go for a long time so lets just chalk it up to personal preference.

Its my stand that if we can get waiters from the cavs, we do it and look to swing dion for another asset.

Waiters - a young talent on a rookie contract with a team option for the following season.
Young - a good vet that can opt out after the season and walk away.

Is it really debatable who has more value?

It could be debateable if the Wolves have a choice between those 2 players and they have basically nothing at the PF position next year and a bunch of perimeter players. I think that's part of Thad's value that's factored in. I'm not sold on either guy though just sayin.

[worldK]

Cam, waiters having more value than young is debatable. That debate can go for a long time so lets just chalk it up to personal preference.

Its my stand that if we can get waiters from the cavs, we do it and look to swing dion for another asset.

Waiters - a young talent on a rookie contract with a team option for the following season.
Young - a good vet that can opt out after the season and walk away.

Is it really debatable who has more value?

Young and waiters are only 3 yrs old apart bigten. Young is only 26! Young fits a need and can be slot in right away and contribute. Both are undersize for their position but young is an able team defender while defense is a weakness of waiters. Both will fit well next to rubio.

We have a logjam at the wing positions and nothing at pf after a love trade.

Young has been a pro throughout his career. Waiters has some baggage although overblown a bit in my view.

Who is better, more talented and more able to contribute to a team in a plus way is also debatable. Young could opt out next season but waiters will be looking at an extention two years from now.