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Perhaps a poor man's Matt Bonner?

LloydBraun wrote:Perhaps a poor man's Matt Bonner?

Its a worthwhile comparison because if Hummel can hit 3s at a good rate you can play him some as a small center because guys will have to guard him out there. Of course imo a poor man's Bonner has no place in the league LOL but if Hummel could become a Bonner type of player he would be really useful and Hummel can play more on the perimeter than Bonner so he could be really handy. Just like other players before him like Ellington Wes Johnson etc all Humel has to do to be a nice player is hit jumpers at a good rate. And they don't have to be contested jumpers hitting open jumpshots are good enough. Remember how useful Tolliver was his first year with the Wolves when he was hitting jumpshots especially 3s?

What are you guys smoking?

There was no room for a DW on this roster, but we can keep a spot open for a guy that can't guard any position on the floor, can't dribble, has zero athleticism, and isn't 7' tall.

Monster, what 4 positions are they that Robbie can play. He is a mediocre spot up 3pt shooter. He shoots the same percentage as Ricky does!

Those who can, do. Those who can't, coach! knowing how to play the game is well and good, but if you can't stay in front of anyone, it really doesn't help.

Q, you have .6 turnovers when the only time you touch the ball is to pass it around the perimeter or shoot. He has the best +/- on the bench because a good share of his minutes came when he was asked to start, so he played with the first unit. The rest of his minutes come when the game is usually out of reach.

The only plus to Robbie is that he costs the minimum, and understands his limitations which makes him comfortable riding the bench. A 15th man is fine, but a rotation player!

BizarroJerry wrote:Perhaps a poor man's Matt Bonner?

Call me greedy, but I'm hoping for more of a Kyle Korver path for Robbie...

sjm34 wrote:What are you guys smoking?

There was no room for a DW on this roster, but we can keep a spot open for a guy that can't guard any position on the floor, can't dribble, has zero athleticism, and isn't 7' tall.

Monster, what 4 positions are they that Robbie can play. He is a mediocre spot up 3pt shooter. He shoots the same percentage as Ricky does!

Those who can, do. Those who can't, coach! knowing how to play the game is well and good, but if you can't stay in front of anyone, it really doesn't help.

Q, you have .6 turnovers when the only time you touch the ball is to pass it around the perimeter or shoot. He has the best +/- on the bench because a good share of his minutes came when he was asked to start, so he played with the first unit. The rest of his minutes come when the game is usually out of reach.

The only plus to Robbie is that he costs the minimum, and understands his limitations which makes him comfortable riding the bench. A 15th man is fine, but a rotation player!

Yep. This would be my response if I cared enough to make a reply myself. Lol

Cam and SJM, Comparing Robbie and Derrick is not apples to apples. One costs ten times more than the other. We've talked about the need to have low-cost, low-mistake players deep on the roster instead of mediocre veterans or lottery picks (in the case of Williams) that cost $4-6 Million per year. Robbie can be one of those guys. And if his 3-point shooting improves, I absolutely think he could be a rotation player, albeit more along the lines of a 9th or 10th man. Derrick Williams was not drafted or paid to be a 9th or 10th man.

But if we want to compare the two players apples to apples, let's go there: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=willide02&y1=2014&p2=hummero01&y2=2014

I don't see much of a difference in overall production.

You can run similar comparisons between Hummel side by side with his fellow rookies. He compares very favorably in most cases.

The case of keeping robbie is that we can have him back at 700+k salary to fill out the 14th - 15th slot. That can play spot minutes when were under manned and wont ba a problem if he dont play.

Those comparing robbie and guys like dw have to realize that we are talking about an end of bench guy that is going to be making 700+ A yr. if youl rather have dw as your 14th-15th guy and pay him almist 5m a yr then you should be fired. Ideally a team's 11th -15th man should not make higher than 1.5m a yr.

If you want to go that route...in 3 years DW will be nothing more than a bench player. Who cares about him. If you watch him play its pretty clear he isn't really a basketball player. My 4 postions? Hummel can be a stretch big can play some SF and in certain matchups he can play as a wing therefore as a SG. Yes thats a stretch but its not crazy either. I bet Hummel is a better ball handler than about alot of other wings that have proved not worth much (paging Rodney Carney) I won't be shocked at all if Hummel 3 years from now is more useful to a team than DW and thats not because I think Hummel is so great I just don't think DW is very good.

Like its been said Hummel is an end of the bench guy that could be kept on for one more year and see if he can become something. If he doesn't move on. I'd rather give him a shot than some guy like AJ price thats proved to be a fringe vet at best. I have no idea why we kept him. Honestly thats the move I hated the most of the whole offseason. LOL