Jarrett Culver
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Re: Jarrett Culver
Hes one of 2 lotto picks unsigned yet.
Rosas still searching for deals? Sign him abd let's get him in summer league.
Rosas still searching for deals? Sign him abd let's get him in summer league.
Re: Jarrett Culver
crazy-canuck wrote:Hes one of 2 lotto picks unsigned yet.
Rosas still searching for deals? Sign him abd let's get him in summer league.
Rosas must be contemplating the possibility of including the rights to Culver in some sort of deal. That's the only reason not to have signed him already.
Re: Jarrett Culver
Question: Have there been any NBA all-star or borderline allstar SGs or SFs who shot under 32% from behind the arc and under 72% from the free throw line their last year in college?
I honestly don't know the answer to this. I'm just wondering of there is any precedent for a player like Culver becoming an all-star caliber NBA player.
I honestly don't know the answer to this. I'm just wondering of there is any precedent for a player like Culver becoming an all-star caliber NBA player.
Re: Jarrett Culver
lipoli390 wrote:crazy-canuck wrote:Hes one of 2 lotto picks unsigned yet.
Rosas still searching for deals? Sign him abd let's get him in summer league.
Rosas must be contemplating the possibility of including the rights to Culver in some sort of deal. That's the only reason not to have signed him already.
Keep in mind teams and players can negotiate a small range of money in terms of the slot money for a first round pick. Since the teams and player couldn't have any contact i'd Assume that means the agent and the Wolves couldn't start that dance until yesterday. If they want to give him the full amount they can I believe his cap hold is lower than that amount so even if they are not looking to move him that could be something to do with not wanting to sign him quite yet. Summer league is a good thing for him to be a part of but I don't think they should completely rush him through everything just to get him there for the game today.
Re: Jarrett Culver
lipoli390 wrote:Question: Have there been any NBA all-star or borderline allstar SGs or SFs who shot under 32% from behind the arc and under 72% from the free throw line their last year in college?
I honestly don't know the answer to this. I'm just wondering of there is any precedent for a player like Culver becoming an all-star caliber NBA player.
Kawhi and Iggy are damn close to those numbers.
Just in general I think Culver gets to much shit for his shooting. He did shoot 38% from 3 his freshman year when he was more of a spot up shooter.
Of course he needs to improve but he did have a season of above average 3pt shooting
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Re: Jarrett Culver
lipoli390 wrote:Question: Have there been any NBA all-star or borderline allstar SGs or SFs who shot under 32% from behind the arc and under 72% from the free throw line their last year in college?
I honestly don't know the answer to this. I'm just wondering of there is any precedent for a player like Culver becoming an all-star caliber NBA player.
He improved by 5% from the free throw stripe between his freshmen and sophomore season with almost twice as many attempts. When he was a support piece and not the centerpiece of the offense he shot 39% from 3. I think you are making his shooting woes out to be more than they actually are and insinuating he's likely not an all-star based on two college shooting stats seems a bit over the top. We've seen good college shooters be bad in the league and mediocre to almost non-shooters learn to be good. It all comes down to the work they put in to improve.
Re: Jarrett Culver
Free throw shooting shouldn't be an indicator of a good shooter. If your a good shooter then yes your prolly a decent ft shooter but it doesn't work the other way around.
Re: Jarrett Culver
khans2k5 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:Question: Have there been any NBA all-star or borderline allstar SGs or SFs who shot under 32% from behind the arc and under 72% from the free throw line their last year in college?
I honestly don't know the answer to this. I'm just wondering of there is any precedent for a player like Culver becoming an all-star caliber NBA player.
He improved by 5% from the free throw stripe between his freshmen and sophomore season with almost twice as many attempts. When he was a support piece and not the centerpiece of the offense he shot 39% from 3. I think you are making his shooting woes out to be more than they actually are and insinuating he's likely not an all-star based on two college shooting stats seems a bit over the top. We've seen good college shooters be bad in the league and mediocre to almost non-shooters learn to be good. It all comes down to the work they put in to improve.
Would it be more fair to compare players 2nd season in college than their last one when some guys wound have had 4 years to develop?
Just to put some things in perspective Jimmy Butler took a total of 94 3's his entire 3 year career at Marquette. Culver took 144 his freshman year and 161 his sophomore season. To compare to Okogie because he missed some games his sophomore year he took a 173 total 3's in college Culver did play deep into the tourney which helped hit still he took almost that many last season alone. Sample size and role in college makes comparing what one guys does to another guy...I think it makes sense to have some context but I think most would agree that Culver's FT and 3 numbers aren't exactly encouraging. But back to your initial question.
Demar Derozen is a very good NBA wing that fits under your criteria for guys that shot under 30% from 3 and under 70% from the FT line in their last year of college. :)
What sometimes gets left out of the conversation when it comes to Culver especially compared to Okogie is 2 point shooting. Okogie from 2 shot what I assume is a pretty poor 43% his last year in college and Culver shot 52.6% that's a pretty big gap. I'd guess the Biggest part of that is finishing at the rim which is something that seems to be a relative strength for Culver and Okogie is...at the NBA level a work in progress.
Re: Jarrett Culver
khans2k5 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:Question: Have there been any NBA all-star or borderline allstar SGs or SFs who shot under 32% from behind the arc and under 72% from the free throw line their last year in college?
I honestly don't know the answer to this. I'm just wondering of there is any precedent for a player like Culver becoming an all-star caliber NBA player.
He improved by 5% from the free throw stripe between his freshmen and sophomore season with almost twice as many attempts. When he was a support piece and not the centerpiece of the offense he shot 39% from 3. I think you are making his shooting woes out to be more than they actually are and insinuating he's likely not an all-star based on two college shooting stats seems a bit over the top. We've seen good college shooters be bad in the league and mediocre to almost non-shooters learn to be good. It all comes down to the work they put in to improve.
I seriously wasn't insinuating anything. I used to think that improved shooting was something fairly common from college to the NBA. But over time I've come to think it's not as common as I used to assume. I'm aware of Culver's shooting as a freshman. But I'm interested in knowing whether there is precedent for Culver's shooting among past or present NBA all stars their final year in college. DeRozan is a good example.
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Re: Jarrett Culver
I'm not sure what Jason Kidd shot % were but I remember him not having a 3 then becoming reliable from 3pt range. I would say Culver's shot and lack of wiggle / blow by speed are his biggest questions. I think I read somewhere that Culver tried to change his shot from freshman year to get rid of releasing on the way down. I think with good player development the kid has reputation for working hard and hit the gym the night of the draft he can become a nice shooter. He also seems like his driving is more based on taking what is available and muscling though defenders or to create space and finish. His work ethic and the new player development / coaching staff are the means to him becoming a solid guard.