Offseason rumors forum

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Ricky Rubio cannot be combined with other contracts in a trade. He can be dealt individually, but not with other player contracts.

Also, I don't see a realistic way James Harden lands in Minnesota, and even if I did I'd probably prefer flipping him to Philadelphia for the younger Ben Simmons and assets.

[Monster]

Ricky Rubio cannot be combined with other contracts in a trade. He can be dealt individually, but not with other player contracts.

Also, I don't see a realistic way James Harden lands in Minnesota, and even if I did I'd probably prefer flipping him to Philadelphia for the younger Ben Simmons and assets.

Yeah the numbers are pretty hard to come up with right now for a Harden trade. Does anyone know when Beasley will be available to be traded? One advantage to getting that deal done instead of matching a deal is I think he is easier to trade also. I'd also prefer landing a younger piece that comes out of a Harden deal but again It may be a while before it can work which could be a problem for making a deal happen with other teams or other teams that it would benefit in some way of getting a deal done.

[Crazysauce]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/a-james-harden-timberwolves-trade-is-the-dark-horse-to-keep-an-eye-on/amp/

This article made it sound like it was possible. I guess i dont know the rules on that or how much to put into this article.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/a-james-harden-timberwolves-trade-is-the-dark-horse-to-keep-an-eye-on/amp/

This article made it sound like it was possible. I guess i dont know the rules on that or how much to put into this article.

There was also an article on The Athletic where John Hollinger listed the Wolves as a dark horse team to make a play for James Harden. He included D'Angelo Russell in his proposal, and like I've said all off-season, I just don't see him being moved.

[Monster]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/a-james-harden-timberwolves-trade-is-the-dark-horse-to-keep-an-eye-on/amp/

This article made it sound like it was possible. I guess i dont know the rules on that or how much to put into this article.

There was also an article on The Athletic where John Hollinger listed the Wolves as a dark horse team to make a play for James Harden. He included D'Angelo Russell in his proposal, and like I've said all off-season, I just don't see him being moved.

Russell is the piece that would make more sense both as a contract and as a young player to move To make the deal happen if it was going to happen before others were able to be traded. Like Cam I don't think Rosas will make that move. I think it would have to be Russell and maybe 2 other valuable assets to get Harden plus all the money you would have to pay him. I tend to think Rosas thinks Russell can turn into a star level player. It's not a terrible bet IMO.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

"In a story for the New York Times, former Heat forward Derrick Jones Jr. said the Wolves spoke to him on the opening night of free agency and made a very compelling pitch. Jones ended up signing a two-year deal worth $19 million with Portland, but not before his agent, according to the Times, went back to the Wolves to see if they could beat the offer. Minnesota also reached out to Paul Millsap, who stayed in Denver, Jae Crowder (Phoenix) and JaMychal Green (Denver), among others, in free agency and explored trades for Orlando's Aaron Gordon, Houston's P.J. Tucker and Cleveland's Larry Nance Jr. on draft night, sources said."

Jon Krawczynski (The Athletic): https://theathletic.com/2222746/2020/11/27/ricky-rubio-anthony-edwards-timberwolves-draft-trades/?source=user_shared_article

I found this excerpt interesting for a couple of reasons that might provoke discussion.

1. This makes me believe the Wolves pursued Derrick Jones Jr. to play the four. There were/are far too many wings on the roster for the front office to go after him to play the three. So, even though they did not sign him, the conclusion I get from this is that they're more serious about playing Jake Layman and Josh Okogie at the four spot than they are letting on.

2. The Wolves showed varying levels of interest in Paul Millsap, Jae Crowder, JaMychal Green, Aaron Gordon, P.J. Tucker... and Larry Nance Jr.? One of these players is not like the other. There is an imposter among us. I'm genuinely surprised that this front office would have any interest in Nance Jr. considering the moves they've made over the past year-and-a-half. Don't get me wrong -- I would have likely supported that acquisition had it materialized, assuming the cost was reasonable, but it seems out of character for the Wolves decision-makers. Am I the only one who feels that way about that?

[MikkeMan]

I found this excerpt interesting for a couple of reasons that might provoke discussion.

1. This makes me believe the Wolves pursued Derrick Jones Jr. to play the four. There were/are far too many wings on the roster for the front office to go after him to play the three. So, even though they did not sign him, the conclusion I get from this is that they're more serious about playing Jake Layman and Josh Okogie at the four spot than they are letting on.

2. The Wolves showed varying levels of interest in Paul Millsap, Jae Crowder, JaMychal Green, Aaron Gordon, P.J. Tucker... and Larry Nance Jr.? One of these players is not like the other. There is an imposter among us. I'm genuinely surprised that this front office would have any interest in Nance Jr. considering the moves they've made over the past year-and-a-half. Don't get me wrong -- I would have likely supported that acquisition had it materialized, assuming the cost was reasonable, but it seems out of character for the Wolves decision-makers. Am I the only one who feels that way about that?

If you think that Larry Nance Jr. is not like others because of three point shooting you should check his numbers from last year. He made more three pointers per 36 minutes than Gordon and with better accuracy.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I found this excerpt interesting for a couple of reasons that might provoke discussion.

1. This makes me believe the Wolves pursued Derrick Jones Jr. to play the four. There were/are far too many wings on the roster for the front office to go after him to play the three. So, even though they did not sign him, the conclusion I get from this is that they're more serious about playing Jake Layman and Josh Okogie at the four spot than they are letting on.

2. The Wolves showed varying levels of interest in Paul Millsap, Jae Crowder, JaMychal Green, Aaron Gordon, P.J. Tucker... and Larry Nance Jr.? One of these players is not like the other. There is an imposter among us. I'm genuinely surprised that this front office would have any interest in Nance Jr. considering the moves they've made over the past year-and-a-half. Don't get me wrong -- I would have likely supported that acquisition had it materialized, assuming the cost was reasonable, but it seems out of character for the Wolves decision-makers. Am I the only one who feels that way about that?

If you think that Larry Nance Jr. is not like others because of three point shooting you should check his numbers from last year. He made more three pointers per 36 minutes than Gordon and with better accuracy.

I thought it was interesting considering Nance Jr. has played the majority of his minutes at center the last three seasons. He's much more of a 4/5 than that 3/4 type that Gersson Rosas has shown interest in to this point.

Add on top of that the very new progression in his game where he's shooting from the perimeter with league average success, as you alluded to. How real and sustainable is that? He was 46-156 (29.5%) from three in his first four seasons combined before going 56-159 (35.2%) in 2019-20. That's a pretty remarkable development that seems to have blossomed out of no where. I wonder if that's a case of having the green light on a bad Cleveland team that frankly didn't have many offensive weapons to lean on. His shooting ability will certainly be a key area of focus next season.

[Monster]

I found this excerpt interesting for a couple of reasons that might provoke discussion.

1. This makes me believe the Wolves pursued Derrick Jones Jr. to play the four. There were/are far too many wings on the roster for the front office to go after him to play the three. So, even though they did not sign him, the conclusion I get from this is that they're more serious about playing Jake Layman and Josh Okogie at the four spot than they are letting on.

2. The Wolves showed varying levels of interest in Paul Millsap, Jae Crowder, JaMychal Green, Aaron Gordon, P.J. Tucker... and Larry Nance Jr.? One of these players is not like the other. There is an imposter among us. I'm genuinely surprised that this front office would have any interest in Nance Jr. considering the moves they've made over the past year-and-a-half. Don't get me wrong -- I would have likely supported that acquisition had it materialized, assuming the cost was reasonable, but it seems out of character for the Wolves decision-makers. Am I the only one who feels that way about that?

If you think that Larry Nance Jr. is not like others because of three point shooting you should check his numbers from last year. He made more three pointers per 36 minutes than Gordon and with better accuracy.

I thought it was interesting considering Nance Jr. has played the majority of his minutes at center the last three seasons. He's much more of a 4/5 than that 3/4 type that Gersson Rosas has shown interest in to this point.

Add on top of that the very new progression in his game where he's shooting from the perimeter with league average success, as you alluded to. How real and sustainable is that? He was 46-156 (29.5%) from three in his first four seasons combined before going 56-159 (35.2%) in 2019-20. That's a pretty remarkable development that seems to have blossomed out of no where. I wonder if that's a case of having the green light on a bad Cleveland team that frankly didn't have many offensive weapons to lean on. His shooting ability will certainly be a key area of focus next season.

Hasn't Nance been a positive on defense for a few seasons now? This front office does pursue guys with defensive ability from time to time. Rubio is an example of that. It would be interesting to know what Cleveland's price is for Nance.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Nance Jr would be a great pickup for this team. He's not gonna block a lot of shots next to Towns but he does everything else we want at that spot at the 4. He's also been a positive defensive player every year of his career.