Cavs Lose again

[kekgeek]

I don't see how the Cavs D up the Hawks with their ball movement. The whole point of playing the team concept over the star concept is you don't have to rely on 1-2 guys to carry you night in and night out and if Lebron or Love and Kyrie have an off night, it is a loss. The Hawks have 4 guys that can step up and win you any game. Everyone knows Korver is a gunner, but he still has a 50/50/90 line. Kyrie can't guard Teague, Love can't guard Millsap. Cleveland is going to have to outscore one of the most efficient offensive teams in the league. I don't think the Hawks will destroy them, but the Hawks are just the better team right now.

I agree Love cannot guard Millsap, that matchup is not good for Love. Love just needs to rebound and hit the lebron/kyrie drive dish open threes in that .matchup.

Irving can't guard teague, and teague won't stop Irving. Irving is the better player of the 2.

Look, almost the whole starting 5 of the hawks are having career years. I see it as a fluke that won't carry over to the playoffs. The cavs are just now hitting the stride of what they can/should be, and in no way have they topped out on their maximum potential...

The hawks are on what a 20 game win streak? The cavs aren't very far behind at 12, and they're beginning to blow people out. I don't even want to think about where they will be at with another 30 games of chemistry. Then add lebron going into killer instinct mode, adding to legacy mode, getting every call in the book mode. It is/will be truly unfair.

Everyone talks about the team concept being the way to win. That is not true. The most championships have been won with star talent. Spurs play the best team ball but they still had parker, Duncan, and Leonard. Not to mention the best coach in the NBA. This cavs team is better than those heat teams and the hawks are not better than the spurs were.

I strongly disagree that this Cavs team is better than last few Heat teams, the Heat teams were elite defensive teams while this Cavs team is ok.

[TheFuture]

What did the heat have outside of lebron, bosh, and wade?

Smith, shumpert, mozgov, Marion, TT, etc. > the Miami role players every year.

[kekgeek]

Birdman, Chalmers, Haslem (the first year), Cole, Miller, Allen, I think individually talent wise you might be right but as a fit I think the Heat players fit better. Marion is done, JR smith shoots to much, Shumpert IMO is one of the most overrated players in the NBA. I do like TT and Mozgov a lot they were both good additions.

[MikkeMan]

Cavs bench > Atl bench

Already the fact that no player in Atlanta team has played more than 33.5 minutes per game proves that their bench is better than Cleveland's. And it is not that their starters would rest a lot in games that are blowouts but they have controlled every players minutes well in tight games as well. After overtime loss at Charlotte, only Korver has once played more than 40 minutes. This will be huge in playoffs since Atlanta players have fresher legs. Much like San Antonio had last year against Miami.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

As long as Kevin Love is a Cav, you'll [lst] never jump on that bandwagon.

I know you are talking about LST, but I still think they have some holes on there roster, but they have the best player on the planet so they will always have a chance

Cam and kek...these statements are both true.

Cam, even beyond Love being on the team, I can't cheer for the Cavs because I despise the concept of star players deserting their franchises to form super teams. I want a championship to be won because of team play, good coaching, good drafting, etc...not because 3 prima donnas want it to happen.

And kek, you're right about James...he is far and away the best player on the planet, and that always gives his teams a chance. There are so many reasons the Cavs should lose...poor defense, poor individual character, questionable coaching, a history of losing and zero playoff experience for 2 of their 3 stars, one of their 3 stars having a bad shooting year, weak depth, injury issues, terrific home court advantage for the Hawks, etc, etc, etc. But we saw what James can do in the 4th quarter of the Cavs/Wolves game, and as long as he is there and healthy, the Cavs have a shot.

Great discussion after I went to bed about the relative merits of the Cavs and the Hawks. The only thing I can conclude is that as long as both teams stay hot, this could be a fabulous series.

[MikkeMan]

I also think that Atlanta has much better coaching than Cleveland. I think that Blatt is even below average as NBA coach and Mike Budenholzer has probably earned COY this year.

[MikkeMan]

Has anyone else noticed this article?

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/cavs-120-lakers-105-jason-lloyd-s-32-final-thoughts-on-tweets-quotes-and-coincidences-1.565348cavs-120-lakers-105-jason-lloyd-s-32-final-thoughts-on-tweets-quotes-and-coincidences

What do you think about LeBron's comments?

[Porckchop]

As long as Kevin Love is a Cav, you'll [lst] never jump on that bandwagon.

I know you are talking about LST, but I still think they have some holes on there roster, but they have the best player on the planet so they will always have a chance

Cam and kek...these statements are both true.

Cam, even beyond Love being on the team, I can't cheer for the Cavs because I despise the concept of star players deserting their franchises to form super teams. I want a championship to be won because of team play, good coaching, good drafting, etc...not because 3 prima donnas want it to happen.

And kek, you're right about James...he is far and away the best player on the planet, and that always gives his teams a chance. There are so many reasons the Cavs should lose...poor defense, poor individual character, questionable coaching, a history of losing and zero playoff experience for 2 of their 3 stars, one of their 3 stars having a bad shooting year, weak depth, injury issues, terrific home court advantage for the Hawks, etc, etc, etc. But we saw what James can do in the 4th quarter of the Cavs/Wolves game, and as long as he is there and healthy, the Cavs have a shot.

Great discussion after I went to bed about the relative merits of the Cavs and the Hawks. The only thing I can conclude is that as long as both teams stay hot, this could be a fabulous series.

Basically , if the Cavs lose it will be because of Kevin Love. If they win it's all about Lebron. Am I right?

[kekgeek]

As long as Kevin Love is a Cav, you'll [lst] never jump on that bandwagon.

I know you are talking about LST, but I still think they have some holes on there roster, but they have the best player on the planet so they will always have a chance

Cam and kek...these statements are both true.

Cam, even beyond Love being on the team, I can't cheer for the Cavs because I despise the concept of star players deserting their franchises to form super teams. I want a championship to be won because of team play, good coaching, good drafting, etc...not because 3 prima donnas want it to happen.

And kek, you're right about James...he is far and away the best player on the planet, and that always gives his teams a chance. There are so many reasons the Cavs should lose...poor defense, poor individual character, questionable coaching, a history of losing and zero playoff experience for 2 of their 3 stars, one of their 3 stars having a bad shooting year, weak depth, injury issues, terrific home court advantage for the Hawks, etc, etc, etc. But we saw what James can do in the 4th quarter of the Cavs/Wolves game, and as long as he is there and healthy, the Cavs have a shot.

Great discussion after I went to bed about the relative merits of the Cavs and the Hawks. The only thing I can conclude is that as long as both teams stay hot, this could be a fabulous series.

Basically , if the Cavs lose it will be because of Kevin Love. If they win it's all about Lebron. Am I right?

For me no, if they won it all it would be a great team effort, more than likely LeBron is a huge reason why they won it all but it will not even be close to the only reason, I thought the same way when he was in Miami. If they don't win it all it is everyone's fault but I blame blatt, more for kevin love's struggles than love

[TAFKASP]

Has anyone else noticed this article?

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/cavs-120-lakers-105-jason-lloyd-s-32-final-thoughts-on-tweets-quotes-and-coincidences-1.565348cavs-120-lakers-105-jason-lloyd-s-32-final-thoughts-on-tweets-quotes-and-coincidences

What do you think about LeBron's comments?

Well that was an interesting move on James part, though given how well they've been playing of late, Love included, the timing doesn't appear to be well considered. Sounds like he's alienating himself again which just goes to re-enforce what became pretty clear in Love's Minnesota years, that being Love isn't a particularly lovable person.