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thedoper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 10:56 am I give TC credit for not being blindly loyal to his decisions. He moves off of perceived mistakes quick and has yet to hamstring the team. He is a deal maker that is for sure.

the real key is not making the mistakes in the first place because now every move he makes looks like a move he's making to fix a prior screw up.

Even us paying Ayo $112 mil looks like something we're only doing because he botched the Dillingham pick.

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:22 am

thedoper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 10:56 am I give TC credit for not being blindly loyal to his decisions. He moves off of perceived mistakes quick and has yet to hamstring the team. He is a deal maker that is for sure.

the real key is not making the mistakes in the first place because now every move he makes looks like a move he's making to fix a prior screw up.

Even us paying Ayo $112 mil looks like something we're only doing because he botched the Dillingham pick.

You’d rather we still have Dilly? Can’t live in the past with mistakes. Everyone makes them. Zach rissacie or whatever spelling, think that gm wants a do over? Ayo is what we hoped dilly could be. Dilly didn’t work so we got Ayo…seems like something a good gm does?

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:22 am

thedoper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 10:56 am I give TC credit for not being blindly loyal to his decisions. He moves off of perceived mistakes quick and has yet to hamstring the team. He is a deal maker that is for sure.

the real key is not making the mistakes in the first place because now every move he makes looks like a move he's making to fix a prior screw up.

Even us paying Ayo $112 mil looks like something we're only doing because he botched the Dillingham pick.

I think turning Dillingham into Ayo was a gain for our team. It's a big price tag but seems consistent with what his market value would have been. Im not sure there is a GM in the league who doesnt make mistakes in the first place. Big picture he has improved this team from the beginning of his tenure until now. Less talent evaluation mistakes is a fair criticism but there are definitely positives in his time as GM I would say.

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 10:12 am

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 10:07 am Nice breakdown, Grey. That’s plenty to work with, when combined with front office savvy, to significantly improve the roster going into next season.

I’m certain TC didn’t make the Randle deal to create financial flexibility without having next steps for use of that flexibility already well developed if not already in hand. We can certainly question TC’s judgment evaluating talent and what I consider his overpay for Rudy, but there’s no questioning his attention to detail and the fact that he doesn’t leave much to chance. He appears to meticulously plan his next steps with every move connected to a subsequent move.

Yeah, no doubt TC has a bunch of potential moves in mind. UFA targets for MLE & BAE, potential trade targets for the 30m+ trade exception (possibly as an extra team in a big trade.. say Jaylen Brown or the expansion of the Giannis trade), possible Rudy trade options, etc. and I think trading #33 to move up in the draft is still very much an option. If I had to guess the Randle trade was on the table when they brought in Philon on Saturday.

BeenLurkin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:41 am

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:22 am

thedoper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 10:56 am I give TC credit for not being blindly loyal to his decisions. He moves off of perceived mistakes quick and has yet to hamstring the team. He is a deal maker that is for sure.

the real key is not making the mistakes in the first place because now every move he makes looks like a move he's making to fix a prior screw up.

Even us paying Ayo $112 mil looks like something we're only doing because he botched the Dillingham pick.

You’d rather we still have Dilly? Can’t live in the past with mistakes. Everyone makes them. Zach rissacie or whatever spelling, think that gm wants a do over? Ayo is what we hoped dilly could be. Dilly didn’t work so we got Ayo…seems like something a good gm does?

No. What I'm saying is getting the 8th pick right >>> having to make up for it by trading for and paying Ayo.

Teams make mistakes, yes. OKC made a bunch of mistakes. The Spurs even drafted Josh Primo. but this team has always had much less margin for error than others.

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 2:43 pm

BeenLurkin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:41 am

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:22 am

the real key is not making the mistakes in the first place because now every move he makes looks like a move he's making to fix a prior screw up.

Even us paying Ayo $112 mil looks like something we're only doing because he botched the Dillingham pick.

You’d rather we still have Dilly? Can’t live in the past with mistakes. Everyone makes them. Zach rissacie or whatever spelling, think that gm wants a do over? Ayo is what we hoped dilly could be. Dilly didn’t work so we got Ayo…seems like something a good gm does?

No. What I'm saying is getting the 8th pick right >>> having to make up for it by trading for and paying Ayo.

Teams make mistakes, yes. OKC made a bunch of mistakes. The Spurs even drafted Josh Primo. but this team has always had much less margin for error than others.

Why is our margin for error smaller?

BeenLurkin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 2:56 pm

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 2:43 pm

BeenLurkin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:41 am

You’d rather we still have Dilly? Can’t live in the past with mistakes. Everyone makes them. Zach rissacie or whatever spelling, think that gm wants a do over? Ayo is what we hoped dilly could be. Dilly didn’t work so we got Ayo…seems like something a good gm does?

No. What I'm saying is getting the 8th pick right >>> having to make up for it by trading for and paying Ayo.

Teams make mistakes, yes. OKC made a bunch of mistakes. The Spurs even drafted Josh Primo. but this team has always had much less margin for error than others.

Why is our margin for error smaller?

Because we have less assets, we're not in a particularly desirable location. Anthony Edwards is 24 years old and has done more winning than your typical #1 overall pick at this stage, yet now we're under immense pressure to do something or we'll be stuck with Asa Newell and picks from the Hawks in 2 years. The second this team screws up, the vultures come out and players are human. They hear this and while it might not mean anything today, a 4 game losing streak will remind them of how they got to this point.

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:50 pm

BeenLurkin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 2:56 pm

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 2:43 pm

No. What I'm saying is getting the 8th pick right >>> having to make up for it by trading for and paying Ayo.

Teams make mistakes, yes. OKC made a bunch of mistakes. The Spurs even drafted Josh Primo. but this team has always had much less margin for error than others.

Why is our margin for error smaller?

Because we have less assets, we're not in a particularly desirable location. Anthony Edwards is 24 years old and has done more winning than your typical #1 overall pick at this stage, yet now we're under immense pressure to do something or we'll be stuck with Asa Newell and picks from the Hawks in 2 years. The second this team screws up, the vultures come out and players are human. They hear this and while it might not mean anything today, a 4 game losing streak will remind them of how they got to this point.

I get all that, but every team has roster issues…OKC just basically salary dumped Wiggins. Spurs have a Fox problem. If you think Wemby stays healthy for 10 straight years then I have some SpaceX ipo you might be interested in too.

Shit changes drastically EVERY year. The days of dynasty’s are over. And the wolves next 5 year window just got a lot more Cap/CBA friendly. We have our core signed and cap managed and we can now focus on it. Spurs and OKc will have to break up some of their rosters before Ants next contract extension. Knicks can’t keep Mitchell Robinson. You get the point? The wolves situation isn’t special, but Ant is and we have finally aligned to him. The rest is just noise and prediction.

BeenLurkin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:59 pm

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 4:50 pm

BeenLurkin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 2:56 pm

Why is our margin for error smaller?

Because we have less assets, we're not in a particularly desirable location. Anthony Edwards is 24 years old and has done more winning than your typical #1 overall pick at this stage, yet now we're under immense pressure to do something or we'll be stuck with Asa Newell and picks from the Hawks in 2 years. The second this team screws up, the vultures come out and players are human. They hear this and while it might not mean anything today, a 4 game losing streak will remind them of how they got to this point.

I get all that, but every team has roster issues…OKC just basically salary dumped Wiggins. Spurs have a Fox problem. If you think Wemby stays healthy for 10 straight years then I have some SpaceX ipo you might be interested in too.

Shit changes drastically EVERY year. The days of dynasty’s are over. And the wolves next 5 year window just got a lot more Cap/CBA friendly. We have our core signed and cap managed and we can now focus on it. Spurs and OKc will have to break up some of their rosters before Ants next contract extension. Knicks can’t keep Mitchell Robinson. You get the point? The wolves situation isn’t special, but Ant is and we have finally aligned to him. The rest is just noise and prediction.

Nothing to add, I just love this point

It's not the same situation but imagine if the Spurs before or during the draft traded Fox for nothing for moving down a few draft slots we would be shocked and impressed they were able to get out of that deal even though they created that problem.

With the Randle deal the Wolves give themselves so so so much more flexibility to add to their roster. One way you can added a high level player that's a part of a championship level team isn't just getting that player from one move. Sometimes it's adding a FA that outperforms their contract or a draft pick a that a team wants or... Basically one way to and an impact player is hope someone you add to the roster is that guy even if they aren't maybe that player is a guy that adds value when you go get a guy that does fit. The Randle trade offers that opportunity. How much value would a NAW type player have if he signed here? Probably multiple 1st round picks. End of the roster players sometimes turn into high ends players like a Caruso. Sometimes a late first round pick player or 2nd round guy turns into a player teams want to trade for like Quickly was for the Knicks.

When I look at the options the Wolves had this off-season I simply couldn't come up with one that looked wildly appealing. ja had a list of reasons to pass plus a big contract. Others were expensive and maybe not the answer. It seemed like Kyrie wasn't easily available and would have cost a decent amount to acquire. There will be players the Wolves an add that help their roster .maybe grow into something or .maybe turn into something they need while building up assets for the next move. Imagine having the flexibility to sign a NAW or Ayo or...in the next 2 years. That si.ply wasn't happening with Randle on the roster. Hell they were worried about just resigning Ayo much less bringing in anyone else for more than the vet min. Now they have more opportunities to add to the roster. Let's see what they do.