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Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:35 am
by Tactical unit
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!

Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:14 am
by KG4Ever
Tactical unit wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!


Yeah, that would be the plan. The Wolves need to start planning for a DLO replacement and I think Chandler is a near perfect fit. The naysayers say he is too short to be a starting NBA point guard, but I think he has all the tools to succeed-unbelievable quickness, high basketball IQ, good court vision, 6'5.25 wing span a 41 inch vertical, good outside shooting and disruptive defense. He really carried Tennessee on his back to become SEC champions. I would love to pair Chandler and Ant as that might be the quickest guard pairing in recent memory, lots of steals, fast break dunks and high energy.

Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:02 am
by WildWolf2813
KG4Ever wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!


Yeah, that would be the plan. The Wolves need to start planning for a DLO replacement and I think Chandler is a near perfect fit. The naysayers say he is too short to be a starting NBA point guard, but I think he has all the tools to succeed-unbelievable quickness, high basketball IQ, good court vision, 6'5.25 wing span a 41 inch vertical, good outside shooting and disruptive defense. He really carried Tennessee on his back to become SEC champions. I would love to pair Chandler and Ant as that might be the quickest guard pairing in recent memory, lots of steals, fast break dunks and high energy.

I think the naysayers are right about that though. Everything you just described is Tyus Jones, which is fine if we're replacing J-Mac, but if the goal is to eventually roll with two PG's not taller than 6', don't be surprised when Ant becomes a foul magnet having to cover for them.

Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:12 am
by Q-is-here
WildWolf2813 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!


Yeah, that would be the plan. The Wolves need to start planning for a DLO replacement and I think Chandler is a near perfect fit. The naysayers say he is too short to be a starting NBA point guard, but I think he has all the tools to succeed-unbelievable quickness, high basketball IQ, good court vision, 6'5.25 wing span a 41 inch vertical, good outside shooting and disruptive defense. He really carried Tennessee on his back to become SEC champions. I would love to pair Chandler and Ant as that might be the quickest guard pairing in recent memory, lots of steals, fast break dunks and high energy.

I think the naysayers are right about that though. Everything you just described is Tyus Jones, which is fine if we're replacing J-Mac, but if the goal is to eventually roll with two PG's not taller than 6', don't be surprised when Ant becomes a foul magnet having to cover for them.


We may not even need a PG in crunch time (eventually). It could be Ant bringing the ball up. Or Nowell. Or a versatile PF we end up getting. Who knows?

I view the pure Center and pure PG roles as necessary to field a complete squad for an 82-game season and playoff run, but not mandatory during crunch time. Ideally, we can find a combination of three tough-minded defenders and shooters that can surround KAT and Ant in the waning minutes of close games.

Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:28 am
by Monster
Q-was-here wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!


Yeah, that would be the plan. The Wolves need to start planning for a DLO replacement and I think Chandler is a near perfect fit. The naysayers say he is too short to be a starting NBA point guard, but I think he has all the tools to succeed-unbelievable quickness, high basketball IQ, good court vision, 6'5.25 wing span a 41 inch vertical, good outside shooting and disruptive defense. He really carried Tennessee on his back to become SEC champions. I would love to pair Chandler and Ant as that might be the quickest guard pairing in recent memory, lots of steals, fast break dunks and high energy.

I think the naysayers are right about that though. Everything you just described is Tyus Jones, which is fine if we're replacing J-Mac, but if the goal is to eventually roll with two PG's not taller than 6', don't be surprised when Ant becomes a foul magnet having to cover for them.


We may not even need a PG in crunch time (eventually). It could be Ant bringing the ball up. Or Nowell. Or a versatile PF we end up getting. Who knows?

I view the pure Center and pure PG roles as necessary to field a complete squad for an 82-game season and playoff run, but not mandatory during crunch time. Ideally, we can find a combination of three tough-minded defenders and shooters that can surround KAT and Ant in the waning minutes of close games.


That's a good point Q.

One other physical thing going against Chandler is being just 172 lbs. I like him I'm not sure how much it I do like him. Is his 3 point shooting real? That FT shooting is a concern. Let's be honest if McLaughlin (who has similar measurements) shot the 3 as well as he did in college we would be legitimately considering him as possible complimentary starter and it wouldn't be ridiculous. I'm cool with taking a guy that's undersized if he legitimately seems like a good player.

Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:31 am
by KG4Ever
WildWolf2813 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!


Yeah, that would be the plan. The Wolves need to start planning for a DLO replacement and I think Chandler is a near perfect fit. The naysayers say he is too short to be a starting NBA point guard, but I think he has all the tools to succeed-unbelievable quickness, high basketball IQ, good court vision, 6'5.25 wing span a 41 inch vertical, good outside shooting and disruptive defense. He really carried Tennessee on his back to become SEC champions. I would love to pair Chandler and Ant as that might be the quickest guard pairing in recent memory, lots of steals, fast break dunks and high energy.

I think the naysayers are right about that though. Everything you just described is Tyus Jones, which is fine if we're replacing J-Mac, but if the goal is to eventually roll with two PG's not taller than 6', don't be surprised when Ant becomes a foul magnet having to cover for them.


The only similarities with Tyus are they are both about the same size, have good court vision and passing skills. He's much more athletic than Tyus Jones. His vertical is 9 inches higher. His speed and quickness are much better. He's a much more aggressive player on both offensive and defensive, with his attacking style. Sure, he's short (but otherwise, the Wolves would have no chance to draft him at 19), but height isn't everything, his wingspan (6'5.25) is longer than several stars including CP3, Stephen Curry, Kyrie Irving, Trae Young, Fred VanVleet, Darius Garland, Desmond Bane, Jalen Brunson and his vertical at 41.5 is also higher than most point guards, and he has elite quickness.

Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:00 pm
by WildWolf2813
Q-was-here wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!


Yeah, that would be the plan. The Wolves need to start planning for a DLO replacement and I think Chandler is a near perfect fit. The naysayers say he is too short to be a starting NBA point guard, but I think he has all the tools to succeed-unbelievable quickness, high basketball IQ, good court vision, 6'5.25 wing span a 41 inch vertical, good outside shooting and disruptive defense. He really carried Tennessee on his back to become SEC champions. I would love to pair Chandler and Ant as that might be the quickest guard pairing in recent memory, lots of steals, fast break dunks and high energy.

I think the naysayers are right about that though. Everything you just described is Tyus Jones, which is fine if we're replacing J-Mac, but if the goal is to eventually roll with two PG's not taller than 6', don't be surprised when Ant becomes a foul magnet having to cover for them.


We may not even need a PG in crunch time (eventually). It could be Ant bringing the ball up. Or Nowell. Or a versatile PF we end up getting. Who knows?

I view the pure Center and pure PG roles as necessary to field a complete squad for an 82-game season and playoff run, but not mandatory during crunch time. Ideally, we can find a combination of three tough-minded defenders and shooters that can surround KAT and Ant in the waning minutes of close games.


See I don't wanna fall into the trap of not feeling we need a position at all because we can't find someone good enough for it, and if we don't think Chandler will be out there late in games, then we need to find the best likely player to be out there, because right now there's maybe 2.5 guys on the roster that I'm comfortable with late in games (KAT, Ant and maybe McDaniels), so seeking the best player to close a game will be important.

Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:08 pm
by WildWolf2813
KG4Ever wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!


Yeah, that would be the plan. The Wolves need to start planning for a DLO replacement and I think Chandler is a near perfect fit. The naysayers say he is too short to be a starting NBA point guard, but I think he has all the tools to succeed-unbelievable quickness, high basketball IQ, good court vision, 6'5.25 wing span a 41 inch vertical, good outside shooting and disruptive defense. He really carried Tennessee on his back to become SEC champions. I would love to pair Chandler and Ant as that might be the quickest guard pairing in recent memory, lots of steals, fast break dunks and high energy.

I think the naysayers are right about that though. Everything you just described is Tyus Jones, which is fine if we're replacing J-Mac, but if the goal is to eventually roll with two PG's not taller than 6', don't be surprised when Ant becomes a foul magnet having to cover for them.


The only similarities with Tyus are they are both about the same size, have good court vision and passing skills. He's much more athletic than Tyus Jones. His vertical is 9 inches higher. His speed and quickness are much better. He's a much more aggressive player on both offensive and defensive, with his attacking style. Sure, he's short (but otherwise, the Wolves would have no chance to draft him at 19), but height isn't everything, his wingspan (6'5.25) is longer than several stars including CP3, Stephen Curry, Kyrie Irving, Trae Young, Fred VanVleet, Darius Garland, Desmond Bane, Jalen Brunson and his vertical at 41.5 is also higher than most point guards, and he has elite quickness.


They play style is also similar in that they take care of the ball (Jones is elite at it).

I wouldn't be against Chandler (I'd probably only take Montero over him as a guard), but I think Chandler's role optimally is already being filled here at the moment. If we wanna upgrade over McLaughlin, then sign me up for Chandler.

Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:10 pm
by Q-is-here
monsterpile wrote:
Q-was-here wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!


Yeah, that would be the plan. The Wolves need to start planning for a DLO replacement and I think Chandler is a near perfect fit. The naysayers say he is too short to be a starting NBA point guard, but I think he has all the tools to succeed-unbelievable quickness, high basketball IQ, good court vision, 6'5.25 wing span a 41 inch vertical, good outside shooting and disruptive defense. He really carried Tennessee on his back to become SEC champions. I would love to pair Chandler and Ant as that might be the quickest guard pairing in recent memory, lots of steals, fast break dunks and high energy.

I think the naysayers are right about that though. Everything you just described is Tyus Jones, which is fine if we're replacing J-Mac, but if the goal is to eventually roll with two PG's not taller than 6', don't be surprised when Ant becomes a foul magnet having to cover for them.


We may not even need a PG in crunch time (eventually). It could be Ant bringing the ball up. Or Nowell. Or a versatile PF we end up getting. Who knows?

I view the pure Center and pure PG roles as necessary to field a complete squad for an 82-game season and playoff run, but not mandatory during crunch time. Ideally, we can find a combination of three tough-minded defenders and shooters that can surround KAT and Ant in the waning minutes of close games.


That's a good point Q.

One other physical thing going against Chandler is being just 172 lbs. I like him I'm not sure how much it I do like him Is his 3 point shooting real? That FT shooting is a concern. Let's be honest if McLaughlin (who has similar measurements) shot the 3 as well as he did in college we would be legitimately considering him as possible complimentary starter and it wouldn't be ridiculous. I'm cool with taking a guy that's undersized if he legitimately seems like a good player.


Yeah, it's one thing to be a bit on the short side. But a lot of shorter PGs that have had playoff success make up for it in strength (Lowry, Paul, Brunson to a degree). Chandler seems to be a bit short AND slight. Not a good combination.

I'm debating in my own mind whether we should take a best player available approach in the draft versus best playoff prospect available. What I mean by that is I may be willing to trade off some degree of skill/college production for raw physical characteristics like size, strength, and athleticism.

Re: It's time to move on from DLO....

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:16 pm
by Tactical unit
WildWolf2813 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Tactical unit wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:The source is Doogie, so you can't run to the bank with this scoop. But it looks like my dream deal of DLO to the Wizards for the draft rights to Dyson Daniels will never be more than a dream :)

Darren Wolfson: The Wizards are not interested in (D'Angelo) Russell. Yes, the Wizards are looking for a lead guard, and I am told no interest in D'Angelo Russell. 5 days ago - via Spotify


I've given up on the idea of Daniels, but I kind of like the point guards that might be available at 19 (Chandler and TyTy) and 40-50 (Nembhard), and the Wolves have worked out Chandler and Nembhard already. Chandler is so quick and has such a high BB IQ (he's only 19 and he has a deep bag of finishing tricks), he's fearless at attacking the rim, had 2.2 steals a game, very good passer, tight handles, excellent as an on-ball defender, and shot over 40% from 3s in tournament season (38.3% for season, he shot 3s at over 50% clip in high school, though he struggled from the free throw line in his one year of college, he was a good free throw shooter in high school and in U19 play and Barnes says he hits 95% in practice, so I am not worried about his free throw shooting as his shooting mechanics are solid. His height knocks him way down as he is 5"11.5 without shoes but that is same height as CP3, Conley and Kemba were as prospects, and he is longer than CP3 and Kemba with a wingspan of 6'5.25 and had highest vertical at combine (41 inches) so he can elevate well when attacking the rim. I'd love him running the point feeding KAT, Ant, Hartenstein (Nurkic or Drummond) and McDaniels in a fast paced offense. He can also play off the ball and creates separation on his outside shot with some nice hesi moves and because he is a constant threat to break towards the rim with his first quick step, defenders can't play him too tight. I love Chandler's upside and hope he's our pick but I could live with a good three and D prospect too like Eason or Jalen Williams and hopefully then we grab Nembhard in round 2, who is a very heady point guard that is a taller version of Tyus Jones or Monte Morris.


I like Chandler quite a bit he changes gears so well and can make shots from all sorts of angles, strong use of the glass on drives. His shooting is top notch and just seems easy. What's most impressive to me is how under control he is even at full speed. If we land Chandler I would want to move on from DLO!


Yeah, that would be the plan. The Wolves need to start planning for a DLO replacement and I think Chandler is a near perfect fit. The naysayers say he is too short to be a starting NBA point guard, but I think he has all the tools to succeed-unbelievable quickness, high basketball IQ, good court vision, 6'5.25 wing span a 41 inch vertical, good outside shooting and disruptive defense. He really carried Tennessee on his back to become SEC champions. I would love to pair Chandler and Ant as that might be the quickest guard pairing in recent memory, lots of steals, fast break dunks and high energy.

I think the naysayers are right about that though. Everything you just described is Tyus Jones, which is fine if we're replacing J-Mac, but if the goal is to eventually roll with two PG's not taller than 6', don't be surprised when Ant becomes a foul magnet having to cover for them.


Please go watch Chandler because he is not Tyus Jones at all. Tyus has some value because of assist to turnover ratio, being able to create for others and having a shot that at least needs to be respected. His floater is also a big part of the overall package. Chandler is way more athletic, not the same player at all.