Next Moves for the Wolves
- D-Mac [enjin:19736340]
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I'm all for trading Kat too. Obviously cov and wig would go too. Build around JO, culver, kbd and get a bunch of picks. Sick of watching that baby wine. Build a team of guys who are all mentally tough. I have no sympathy for these guys like towns and Wiggins who make 30 mil a year and can't bring some mental toughness for 6 hours a week (3 games a week) for half the year. Did I hear that Okogie had something to say to towns in that players meeting?
- Wolvesfan21
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D-Mac wrote:I'm all for trading Kat too. Obviously cov and wig would go too. Build around JO, culver, kbd and get a bunch of picks. Sick of watching that baby wine. Build a team of guys who are all mentally tough. I have no sympathy for these guys like towns and Wiggins who make 30 mil a year and can't bring some mental toughness for 6 hours a week (3 games a week) for half the year. Did I hear that Okogie had something to say to towns in that players meeting?
The only SAB is Wiggins. Who cares how much they make, Taylor probably makes 100 million a year off the team and he's a soft ass bitch.
- khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
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Who are you getting for Towns that's gonna end up better than him? Teams just don't trade young all-stars and trading him for unknown draft picks might as well seal the fate of this team going to Seattle. Tatum, Luka, Zion, Ja, Mitchell. None of those guys are on the block. We're just better off hoping he matures as this contract goes on and becomes that guy than rebuilding yet again.
- Camden [enjin:6601484]
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khans2k5 wrote:Who are you getting for Towns that's gonna end up better than him? Teams just don't trade young all-stars and trading him for unknown draft picks might as well seal the fate of this team going to Seattle. Tatum, Luka, Zion, Ja, Mitchell. None of those guys are on the block. We're just better off hoping he matures as this contract goes on and becomes that guy than rebuilding yet again.
Agreed. The only avenue that you could even hope for is to make it a trade after the draft lottery where the team acquiring Towns has the number one overall pick and it happens to be a strong draft class at the top. Unfortunately, those are rare circumstances.
- Wolvesfan21
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I agree that it doesn't make sense at all. KAT is underpaid, he''s on a max contract. He's the only player outperforming his contract. Thus he is the only player worth keeping. As much as we all like the try hard of JO, Culver, Dieng, etc. They simply are atrocious on the offensive end of the ball. After the team traded KG it took another ten years to find one good player again, That is KAT.
Let's give these guys a couple years before we put the nails in the coffin. Ehh? I know the odds are long to get good players, but it is possible.
P.S. I snuck Dieng in there as a joke. :-P
Let's give these guys a couple years before we put the nails in the coffin. Ehh? I know the odds are long to get good players, but it is possible.
P.S. I snuck Dieng in there as a joke. :-P
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2021 is being heralded as the best free agent class of all time by some and I want to be players and we will shed Gorgui's and Teague's contracts by then and so should be primed as long as we don't take on much salary. There are the big marquee names and there is the next tier where we have a chance to be players (Oladipo, Josh Richardson, Jrue Holiday, Beal, McCollum, Gobert, Oubre, Hayward, Steven Adams), also of interest (Monte Moore, Otto Porter, LMA, Richuan Holmes, Will Barton, Danny Green, Norman Powell, Redick, Dinwiddie, D. Schroder, Mills, Lyles, Korkmaz, Cody Zeller, Jabari Parker).
Signing DLO would not only cost us in terms of assets, but also the chance to be players in 2021. Hopefully, Gersson has a long term plan in place.
Signing DLO would not only cost us in terms of assets, but also the chance to be players in 2021. Hopefully, Gersson has a long term plan in place.
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I thought our most recent draft picks were supposed to help out the defense right away. Seems the defense is as bad if not worse than ever.
- khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
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KG4Ever wrote:2021 is being heralded as the best free agent class of all time by some and I want to be players and we will shed Gorgui's and Teague's contracts by then and so should be primed as long as we don't take on much salary. There are the big marquee names and there is the next tier where we have a chance to be players (Oladipo, Josh Richardson, Jrue Holiday, Beal, McCollum, Gobert, Oubre, Hayward, Steven Adams), also of interest (Monte Moore, Otto Porter, LMA, Richuan Holmes, Will Barton, Danny Green, Norman Powell, Redick, Dinwiddie, D. Schroder, Mills, Lyles, Korkmaz, Cody Zeller, Jabari Parker).
Signing DLO would not only cost us in terms of assets, but also the chance to be players in 2021. Hopefully, Gersson has a long term plan in place.
Ah yes. The New York Knicks strategy. If you get the cap space they will come. In what world are the Minnesota Timberwolves free agent players?
- Camden [enjin:6601484]
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WolvesFan21 wrote:I agree that it doesn't make sense at all. KAT is underpaid, he''s on a max contract. He's the only player outperforming his contract. Thus he is the only player worth keeping. As much as we all like the try hard of JO, Culver, Dieng, etc. They simply are atrocious on the offensive end of the ball. After the team traded KG it took another ten years to find one good player again, That is KAT.
Let's give these guys a couple years before we put the nails in the coffin. Ehh? I know the odds are long to get good players, but it is possible.
P.S. I snuck Dieng in there as a joke. :-P
My head was spinning when I saw Dieng included there. Thank goodness I saw the note at the end noting it was a joke. Good one! Dieng should be on the list of softies that have made there way to Minnesota.
Also, I feel like you perhaps unintentionally (?) forgot to mention Kevin Love somewhere in there. Just another All-NBA caliber player that this franchise has completely failed to build around.
- Camden [enjin:6601484]
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KG4Ever wrote:2021 is being heralded as the best free agent class of all time by some and I want to be players and we will shed Gorgui's and Teague's contracts by then and so should be primed as long as we don't take on much salary. There are the big marquee names and there is the next tier where we have a chance to be players (Oladipo, Josh Richardson, Jrue Holiday, Beal, McCollum, Gobert, Oubre, Hayward, Steven Adams), also of interest (Monte Moore, Otto Porter, LMA, Richuan Holmes, Will Barton, Danny Green, Norman Powell, Redick, Dinwiddie, D. Schroder, Mills, Lyles, Korkmaz, Cody Zeller, Jabari Parker).
Signing DLO would not only cost us in terms of assets, but also the chance to be players in 2021. Hopefully, Gersson has a long term plan in place.
You're severely overrating the cap space, if any, that this franchise will have in 2021. Kek has tried to help you understand that multiple times but you've continued to ignore it.
Even if Rosas did make the moves necessary to have ample cap space to sign a difference-maker in free agency, what makes you think that the players would want to come to Minnesota? Traditionally-speaking, that's never been the case.
Their best bet is to rely heavily on the draft and trades. I'm not ruling out free agency, but it's more likely that the Wolves can fill certain holes with role players in free agency instead of finding actual core players -- which is what is still needed.